The Rising Sun

You had odds of 3800?? Is that even possible with only 10 games?

I wish the best for Torres this season, as next season i am sure he will not be a chelsea player. He does not fit in to our style, and doesnt do the hardwork off the ball. On the ball he does some good things, but we need a hard worker. Mikel and Lampard both were not at all good today, and it was basically oscar who was making things happen upfront. Terry, while he has his superhero moments a few times every game, is becoming error prone, and ivanovic is not a good RB. Our defence really needs fixing,

Torres has had a great game too....leading the line well. And Oscar.... way to go... starter against stoke? RDM might have to give him that start beside mata hazard

I am really hopeful of that too, but unlike lukaku, who was not sharp enough and had many many flaws, Oscar is quality in every way. The realization i am having is, where will he play? In our Pivot, Mikel doesnt get injured and he is pretty much the only true DM that we have, so he will keep his place in the DP. Lampard too does not get injured much, and will play atleast 80-90% of our matches. Really dont see Oscar breaking that combination, as RDM likes it, and cant bench Lampard IMO. Then there is Hazard Mata who are dead sure of being selected in the starting lineup. So only if hazard is made to play as a right winger does oscar have a chance of getting in, but for the RW position there are also Marin and Moses and possibly Sturridge at times. Even if oscar can play RW, there are better options for that position so he wont be first in line. Add to that RDM's defensive liking of putting either/both Bertrand and Ramires on LW and RW respectively, then there is one more and sometimes 2 more spots taken up by these two. Where and how is Oscar going to break into the first team, when his opportunities will be so limited? Suppose Lamps is left out for a FA cup game and Oscar slots in, and does well, i still dont think the next PL game, RDM will sit lampard on the bench and play Oscar. He only has a realistic chance of having a run in the team if someone gets injured. As a sub, he will always be effective but in a limited way. Really cant see how we can integrate him into the first team this season atleast.... maybe next season if Lamps goes to MLS, Oscar will be first choice for that position. So having bought him, with this formation, we cant use him often, and he will not grow the way he should without enough gametime. A player of his talent should be playing week in week out, similar to Courtois. He has only progressed to much as he has got Starting 11 gametime, which Oscar is not going to get. So only time will tell if this will be the sort of year a player of his talent requires to become WC.

I feel really bad for Oscar. We should have loaned him if we're not going to give him time on the pitch for the important matches. Dont really care if he plays in the Capital One Cup matches. He is quality and you dont buy a 25 million player to make him sit on the bench. Sorry Oscar. Its sad really. Really sad.

This is part of my reaction everytime Torres Scores a goal. Then i celebrate.

Yes he has been rated, and he has had more than a few fantastic games for us. Its my personal opinion, that i think we can have a defensive midfielder who is more of an enforcer and commanding than mikel. My opinion will probably not change, but the fact that you have already decided that i will view your observation as irrelevant and not constructive is wrong. What to do, you have already made your judgement on how i will respond.

What? I said at the beginning of my post that i dont rate Mikel Highly. Cech must be shit too? Am i missing something here? Some sort of inference? It works differently with GK's . Most Big Clubs have long terms solutions for their GK's. Anyhow, your reply was not in any way constructive, so i will refrain from providing a constructive reply. Ill 'Skip' it.

Lololol That is by far the best reply i have ever read!! Haha! Well Done!

haha just managed to see the first post in time.... So only i know it was a little bit of a fail! For everyone else : GREAT SAVE!

Haha Cheers ! Im waiting for The TC army to slam me for a "knee jerk" "plastic:" "you dont know football" and lastly "we're on top of the league" posts. They're Coming,

Id rather watch a movie. Whats the point of watching choreographed stuff which has such high levels of manufactured drama. I loved Wrestling till the moment i learnt its fake.

I dont rate Mikel highly. I should state that first. Just realised, that ever since any player has joined Chelsea after the Roman Era, there has always been some form of Interest from other clubs for almost all our starters, EXCEPT FOR MIKEL. I wonder why. I really think only our supporters(not all) rate him that well. Tell me how pathetic i am.

Also, we need to play a formation with more than 1 Striker, as If he is not having a good game, we are in many ways, FUCKED. Most top teams play with 2 CF's. Dont know why we cant do the same. We need to have more people forward who can do stuff. Sturridge and Torres upfront can be a healthy partnership. Ramires cant do stuff, Bertrand can do a little more stuff, but not enough, Mikel is the no stuff guy on holiday. Lampard is capable of stuff but not as a DM. So if Mata is not clicking, and Hazard cant win the game for us, then its very likely that "We're Gona hava A Bad Time"( Russel Peters Style) Sorry guys, couldnt think of an appropriate word for 'stuff'.

For all those who know the game of CRICKET, RDM's team selections are equivalent to a cricket coach, starting his batting line-up with all bowlers, so that they can wear out the new ball, so that the best batsman do not get out against the new ball. However, the top batsmen of any team take advantage of the new ball and are there to get the boundaries(goals). Imagine if any coach in cricket's top team would do that against zimbabwe(QPR,reading). He would be smashed by the press and every professional on planet earth. RDM likes playing a test match, with the opening batsmen as night watchmen. It is plain wrong. Tactics and strategies like those are meant for moments where you are trying to stay in the game and are in trouble. We are neither in trouble, and dont need to stay in the game, we need to go for the win ..... and with confidence and style. We have all the players there, why not play them? If we dont get the desired attractive football with results, then go back to Parking the Bus against the southamptons and QPRs of this world, but heck, atleast give the players that have come in to change our style a chance. He plays 10 players from last season and 1 new player, that too with many players playing out of position. What The Fuck Is Going On? Its like having ammunition, but choosing to try and dodge bullets, and on the odd chance, when the enemy is reloading, go slit his throat( counter attack). We are better than that. Take out your bazooka RDM , and fire!!!!

Can people please stop playing the We're top of the league card? We are only 4 games in, and our opponents have dropped points against good sides. Yes we're on top of the league, and while that is good, i fear RDM has shown his cards, and the team selection for QPR really makes me worried. That is all !! Hopefully his quiet, calm exterior is only a fraction of him as a person , not his personality as a manager. I am worried. He will either grow some balls over the season, or will continue to think that the only way to achieve glory is through the methods he used last season, which were as negative as possible. Understandable at times, as we were playing European Powerhouses, but doing the same more than a few times this season against much lesser sides, what??? This was QPR. He is a nice guy, but he needs to change his mindset and take risks. Change never comes without atleast some risks and gambles. RDM is trying to change things without even a single risk, which i dont think is possible. And to the people saying we got 1 more point than what we achieved last season..... last season was a joke.... 1 more point than last season's result is nothing to be positive about. We are the European champions, and yesterdays Line-up against a much much inferior opposition was an Embarrasment and insult to that Title.

I agree.

Every Chelsea Supporter should be disappointed we did not come back with 3 points today. There is a difference between going to Stoke and coming back with a draw, and saying we EARNT the point, and in going to QPR ... losing 2 points, and still saying we won 1 point. Di Matteo doesnt look to have the balls to actually implement and take risks to change our style of play. While i might sound stupid here, i really appreciate Brendan Rogers and what he is doing at liverpool. He has a philosophy and he is implementing it at all costs. And they will come good sooner rather than later. RDM on the other hand, isnt ballsy enough to take tough calls on team selections and is generally either ignorant or stubborn with players he likes in certain positions. Today was pathetic. Yes, we move on, but RDM needs to pull up his socks and change the starting 11. Ill say this for the first time ever, but yes, i finally have given up on Torres. He has brilliance and relies on services blah blah, but he does fuckall for 85 minutes. Pretty much walks or Jogs, doesnt pressure the defence or chase opposition players. His switch goes on and off, and it seems that he is as WRONG for us as Dimitar Berbatov was for United. We need a CF who closes down players, continuously pressurises people and in general seems eager and alive. Apart from a few good moments every game, the guy is the biggest Liability we have had ever. The only way forward for our club is to sell him in January/Summer and buy Cavani/Falcao esque players, who work tirelessly and leave their mark on every game. Their presence is felt. Torres is frustrating to watch, and im tired of supporting him no matter what. Now he is on my supporting equivalent of a "Pay as you play" contract. If he performs well, will praise him, and badly, then will slam him. But today is the day i stop telling everyone that he is going to come good, and will get his mojo back etc etc. He is well and truly like a moody girlfriend.

His Man mangement is definitely the type chelsea needs. IMO, tactically he will always be defensive, which is not what as fans we want, but it is silently effective. However, while buying players to change our style to attacking flair, he is notpicking teams for a free flowing style of football. Not that he doesnt have the ability, which he might have, but i dont think he really has a philosophy that is based on attacking football, rather defensive.( till now at chelsea) I know he can steady the ship and help us set up for the future, but i dont think he has the balls to make decisions and name lineups that will scare the opponents, he will always instead choose to counteract the opposition's players , even while he can choose a team that will have the opposition on the defensive. Its a wierd situation, where RDM is exactly what we needed after the AVB disaster, but it is upto him to evolve as a manager who is taking the initiative and gain the confidence to prepare lineups that are fitting with the talent we have. Time will tell. He has the potential, but for me, i want changes in the way he decides to approach games.

Really think we wont get more than a point in this game. QPR will be up for it at home and the international break coupled with the way we lost against athletico madrid, has in all probability broken our momentum. I really think all three outcomes are possible, win draw and loss, with the latter being improbable, but not impossible. They have good strikers, so they will definitely score atleast a goal. It all depends on whether we can convert and take control of the match early on. The longer QPR are in it, the more confidence they will get, and they will not setup for a draw. It is a tough game, unlike many other games, i dont expect a 3-0 thrashing.

Im quite sure the clubs dont pay the wages during international break, otherwise everytime Players would go for The ACN, they would get a months salary FREE.

At best , He is a Totenham Level Player, nothing close to what a European Powerhouse requires. Llorente for Our Striker on the bench. If we buy a new striker, then for benchwarming, i'd say Llorente, provided he is ok with not being a starter. Incase we are Shifting Torres and buying a replacement, it can be nothing less than a Cavani or Falcao sort of player. Huntelaar and Llorente are far from being Chelsea;s main striker. Bench Please, we have new seats too!

Very very high risk, considering they are internationals and more often than not, there are a few upsets, or draws. However, best of luck on this one! If you win, you have godly status, and You're better than Paul The Octopus!! Will post my weekend bets on here for discussion!

Really dont understand this " It;s the biggest game for them, but for us, godly creatures, we dont give a shit" attitude some have on here. It is a derby, and unlike most other derbies, this one at Loftus Road came as a shock to us last season, and has become one of unequals, but fearsome and hot blooded. I certainly look forward to it. And while i know we are a bigger club with bigger fish to fry, that doesnt take away from the fact that it is a west london Derby, and for a change, QPR fans take it seriously. Chelsea Fulham derby has no passion or derby feeling. If anything, we should embrace this rivalry and derby atmosphere before this game. The Chelsea money might be coming from Russia, but we are still a west London club, and must not be too High headed for a battle, however unmatched it may be. Interesting pieces of Trivia, 1. Many QPR fans favourite game against Chelsea was a 6–0 victory on Easter Monday in 1986.[3] Chelsea were second in the league table at the time, and the result all but ended their title challenge. 2. The teams met in a competitive match for the first time since 1996, when drawn to face each other in the FA Cup 3rd Round on 5 January 2008.[4] Chelsea won 1–0 thanks to a first-half own goal by Lee Camp. There was trouble after this game; this led to 23 arrests and 1 fan being taken to hospital.[5] 3. On 28 July 2001. QPR stunned the £50 million Chelsea line-up by beating them 3–1. Jesper Gronkjaer gave Chelsea a first-half lead, but QPR got an equaliser from Leroy Griffiths and then took lead from a long range effort by Karl Connolly. QPR confirmed the win when Gavin Peacock, also a former Chelsea player, scored late on.[7] This game was marred by crowd trouble and saw both sets of fans enter the pitch. 4. On 23 October 2011, Chelsea lost 1–0 to a newly promoted QPR in the first Premier League match between the sides since 1996. In a feisty encounter during which the Chelsea players were unable to cope with the hostile atmosphere generated by the QPR fans, players clashed on several occasions, with 9 Chelsea players and 2 QPR booked, and 2 Chelsea players, José Bosingwa and Didier Drogba were sent off. So we have been beaten by them more than a few times on the pitch, and both sets of supporters have beaten each other off the pitch as well. I actually feel excited by this fixture, specially after last season at Loftus Road... No reason to be have a superiority complex! Just Embrace what has presented itself, and obviously ....thrash them!

Malouda should have left when the club offered him a way out. By releasing him on a free with 1 year of his contract remaining, the club was taking a huge hit to move him on. As a club, we are trying to move on. If someone is not in the plan, then they are informed and have to decide whats important to them. The same way Liverpool handled Charlie Adam. I am quite sure he has taken a massive pay cut by joining Stoke. The fact is, he was not in the managers plans, and wanted to PLAY FOOTBALL. Malouda's situation is no different. Yet his actions are quite pathetic. Yes it is the clubs fault we gave him a 4 year contract at 28, but that does not mean Malouda has some god given right to hold the club to ransom, and not feel even a little bit of guilt about it. Let him rot in the reserves. He will be an example to the younger players , Play Vs Pay. Every player should remember that is was their passion and love for the game that got them where they are.... To me i can relate Malouda to this now: