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torres does not have a shot on goal against hull because he lacks confidence to take a shot from even 10 yards out. on the other hand sturridge's first instinct is to get the ball on his left foot and take a ping if he sees a 10% chance. BA was awful/horrendous against villa. he could not hold the ball, could not make one decent run (which was evident by 4-5 offsides), sturridge on the other hand thrives on his movement and his runs. and when dont we play the inisive ball? what was kdb's ball to oscar against hull, or oscar's ball to hazard against villa. it depends on our striker. torres and ba have poor movement off the ball and hence the lack of incisive balls to them. also if you remember sturridge's performance against WBA, u would know that sturridge had 3 one on one chances and every one of them had majorly to do with his movement. i seriously cant understand how any1 can say we dont play the incisive ball through when we have a player like mata in our team who looks only to play THAT incisive ball. sturridge is a striker, he is supposed to be selfish. his "selfishness" was the only reason pool could win against stoke. sometimes his decision making is baffling (not selfishness but i would like to call it decision making), but i would take a striker who has the confidence to take on a player and take a shot on the goal from 25 yards rather than whatever torres and BA do (which is nothing).

HOW??? how would our system not have suited sturridge? he makes brilliant runs off the ball, his movement is mind-blowing, creates space for the midfield by his runs, and one of his biggest asset, he likes to be direct. he would have been some1 who would take a shot from 20-25 yards out rather than trying to pass the ball inside the net. sturridge would actually have thulped in our system right now.

DAMN, so we can have a group of CHELSEA, PSG, BVB, NAPOLI. FUCK MY LIFE...

you can bet anything and everything u have on us either selling/loaning out BA/torres (i will do a naked dance if its the latter one) if we do buy another striker.

just one thing - IS THE DEAL DONE?

sturridge can hold the ball better than torres and ba. his movement off the ball is what makes the space for any midfield. i mean watch him and coutinho playing together. ultimate example of it. also NO, we dont ONLY need a striker who drops deep to recieve the ball in midfield (like rooney, rvp as you stated), we need some directness in our play which is what you get with sturridge. also his link up play is brilliant and any1 who has watched pool's last 7-10 matches will tell u that.

precisely my point. also u answered urself there. he did those "selfish" acts to show us that he was the real deal. i saw today's match and the match against stoke and pool's last 5 fixtures of the last season, and i would not say sturridge is "selfish". he would take a shot if he thought he had a 10% chance of scoring but thats what strikers are supposed to do. i honestly cant remember when ba or floppes last scored from outside the box. sturridge on the other hand has the confidence of taking the shots. also there is no point of him "turning crap"... he was always a good striker with a potential of something really special. he has the knack of getting on the score sheet which is exactly what you want in a striker.

"he would be frustrating the hell out of every1" - HOW??? by asking to be played and given a true chance as a striker instead of FLOPPES rather than starting 2 games in half a season.

mata CAN play on the wing but i think so can ramires, infact rambo's best moment of his career probably came as a right-back, but it does not mean we should play him there. mata is a CAM and MOST efficient in the center of the pitch. when we play him on the wings, we have absolutely no true width in our play. we simply cant stretch teams and everything is just too narrow and most of the time easy to defend.

hahahahahaha.... oh god...

what a blunder... and that too for the blondie... damn it..

i seriously have not been in the loop as had some work, so is the deal done or what?

very very very weird signing.

deserved a shot under jose. if we sign willian, i feel its over for him. would have been a good squad player. ps- people calling his signing :"stupid" should get themselves tested.

when is jose's next press conference? any idea?

i have seen some great blunders by this board like after 2009-10 season we let go off deco, ballack, joe cole, belleti and carvalho but signed only rambo. we bought FLOPPES for 50 million. we let go off DD so that FLOPPES could be our no.1 striker. we sold off sturridge. but if we ACTUALLY buy willian and sell off/swap mata, then it would be taking stupidity and blunders to a whole new different level.

precisely. even without going into the replays , i can easily remember so many mistakes that torres made that day. firstly he dint check alves' run which he later crossed into the box which messi finished but was ruled off side. even GARY NEVILLE, sighed on sky sports encouraging torres to do the needful. then was the ball he lost to mascherano (i think), which ultimately made meireles tackle him to the ground and take a yellow for the team. lastly the ball that he lost while trying to go thru half the barca players single handedly rather than just booting the ball upfield and giving our defence a much needed 5-10 second breather. worse would be that he dint even fall back to retrieve the ball and just continued on with this run and stood their. he simply got lucky by scoring that goal. also saying torres is the reason that we went to munich is slapping the likes of rambo, cech, DD, mikel-meireles-lampard (the midfield trio who were absolutely sensational), and the others on the field, who actually cared about the team rather than personal glory and put their bodies, souls and pretty much every thing they hand on the line for the team.

what are u gonna do next? correct my grammar? oh wait i should have wriitten to "going to" instead of daring to use "gonna". anyways nice try on diverting the topic, but i still dont get how any chelsea fan who has got match programmes older than me can think we were getting knocked out until torres scored.

for some1 who thought we were going out of the CL until torres scored the goal - i can guess EXACTLY what your knowledge of chelsea is. so ciao.

i seriously felt that united were being over-run in the mid against swansea. they were proving (and they really are) a handful to handle. as for rvp - i dont think any single player could have had more influence on a team's whole season as he did. be it your FA cup match against west ham or the numerous matches where u went a goal or 2down and rvp brought u back. the rest of the squad did play their role and chipped in but i am sure that if u add all the goals from the players u named would still be less than rvp's league goals. that was the limit of his influence on united last season. i am sorry if u felt i was being harsh on u, but u called rambo a "squad player". he would be the 1st name on the team sheet right now (or maybe 2nd after cech). i seriously dont think any1 here can even fathom us playing this match or for that matter any big match this season without rambo in our pivot. the thread itself would be proof enough. i can bet u than none of the proposed team line-ups by any of the posters would be lacking rambo. also i feel u are under-rating ramires BIG TIME (which is surprising since he has done exceptionally well against united, scored a lot of goals against them and dont forget the tackle on rooney to dispossess him which led to the goal at OT). his importance to chelsea right now is as much as mata/hazard. his running, pace, finishing, tackling and most importantly his immense workrate and the sheer will to try and win any and every ball (be it united or pre-season) makes him very very very special. and mark my words "HE IS GOING TO BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TEAMS". he will win it for us.

NO WAY. the only thing u are actually better than us is in the striker department and that too by more than a mile, which compensates for your midfield. i mean if chelsea had been struggling for the 1st 30 odd minutes against swansea the way united did, we would have definitely lost the match because we no longer possess a striker who can produce a moment of magic and turn the match on its head. and that is exactly what RVP did against swansea. he bailed u out, big time. as for the rest of the squad, our GK is better and one of the best in world. our RBs and LBs are better than yours though the CB pairing is not, infact we dont even know what our best CB pairing is like united's is vidic-ferdinand. both the team's deep-mid or pivot is on the same level. but if u think ramires is "nothin more than a SQUAD PLAYER", than u dont know anything about chelsea AT ALL. we take the cake, the baker and the bakery when it comes down to the attacking mid-fielders/wingers. also the fact that u dont even inculde KDB (or rather think that he is a CDM) in your analysis tells me u dont know the chelsea squad. he is going to be a really important player for us this season and u ll know how good he is on monday. strikers - i dont wanna talk about because we are hopelessly lacking in that field. manager - we have the best in the world. as for the match, its going to be a rude awakening for "the champions" as you put it. in your analysis (your first post) u expect moyes to deploy the same tactics of sitting back, let us do the passing and then counter. i think that would be playing into our hands. i think u have forgotten the 2 2-0 leads you squandered last season was when u thought u had done enough, sat back and let us get into the game. i expect united to try and squeeze us higher up the pitch, give no space to the 3 behind the striker and try and put our pivot under question.

i actually liked your post until u started the comparision of the squads. LOL at zaha better than moses, de better than cech and LOL max at cleverly equal to ramires. also evra was good last season?? is that why u r looking to bring in baines as a no.1 LB inspite of having a decent replacement in buttner.

your usage of simileys and your stand on torres and your knowledge of this club, tells me exactly what u are.

guess where i stopped reading your post. just goes on to tell exactly what u know.

his shielding of the ball reminded me of some1, just cant put a finger on exactly who it is...