didierforever

i have explained the everton goal before and going to say it again. norwich i dont blame him completely but it was a reply to your "never made a mistake, this season".

"all i wanted to say is said we could have bought 2 WC center-backs with 35mil. the first example that came to my mind was hummels-subotic (as they were , for me, the best CB pairing last season). but people have discarded all the other iportant points that i made before and after but have concentrated on these 2 names for some weird reason (who were just instinctive names). " 5th time i am saying the same thing.

give away a stupid goal like he did against everton and then perform brilliantly, i would rather take just a good solid performance of not making a mistake and just doing the needful. its not a stupid argument. its a fact. defenders' life is not easy. 89 minutes and 59 seconds of out-of the -world play can go to crap if u do something stupid in the remaining 1 second. cos it will always lead to a goal. this is the 3rd time i am posting this particular part "all i wanted to say is said we could have bought 2 WC center-backs with 35mil. the first example that came to my mind was hummels-subotic (as they were , for me, the best CB pairing last season). but people have discarded all the other iportant points that i made before and after but have concentrated on these 2 names for some weird reason (who were just instinctive names). "

yes... definitely one of the best players. probably 14th best.

"all i wanted to say is said we could have bought 2 WC center-backs with 35mil. the first example that came to my mind was hummels-subotic (as they were , for me, the best CB pairing last season). but people have discarded all the other iportant points that i made before and after but have concentrated on these 2 names for some weird reason (who were just instinctive names). " how conviniently did u not read the main part of my post. but yes, do carry on the hummels-thing do defend luiz. over a whole season? luiz was good just was the 2nd half of the season.but which position - CDM. no one here is debating his class. his ease on the ball and his general ball-play, which is absolutely brillaint. but for a CB- he is a disaster waiting to happen.

sometimes u have to trust and put your faith in something. and DD repayed it. u dont chuck out people just cos of one mistake how ever big. also since u have deviated from luiz's "mistakes" to DD's slap, then next on the list should be JT since he also missed a pen (another mistake). the comparision are not the same. DD made a human error. he did something stupid. one-thing stupid and i a, sure he regrets it more than any of us. DD dint do it again. luz in the other hand makes amateurish mistakes in the game and it seems after a long- spell, he is returning to that error prone self again.

i concede on hummels. he is error prone. also people should stop making mountain out of mole hills here. all i wanted to say is said we could have bought 2 WC center-backs with 35mil. the first example that came to my mind was hummels-subotic (as they were , for me, the best CB pairing last season). but people have discarded all the other iportant points that i made before and after but have concentrated on these 2 names for some weird reason (who were just instinctive names).

one goal against RM by hummels is not a LOT. also subotic has GOT TO BE one of the best CBs in the world right now without a doubt. cant say the same for hummels. i tolf u those above things cos u said DL has OUTPLAYED them for the last year, which is well hilarious to say the least.

nope. i would have seen IF he repeated it again.

u r blaming JT for leaving iva to cover 2 men, when that is wher LUIZ played his horrendous part of the mistake. a mis-control is a mistake but very different from what luiz did. he literally went out of position and then stood their ball-watching. also it was never JT's man. naismith just ran into the space that luiz left between JT and iVA. iva tried to compensate for that by moving towars JT but it was a good crooss to JELAVIC on the far post and iva was caight in no man's land. here the most avoidable part of the whole chain reaction is LUIZ out of position and then ball-watching. i dont know why JOSE dint take DL or IVA out today., just like i dont know why he insists on playing iva ahead of azpi. from what i saw, DL was the worst player on the pitch for us. also i would have subbed DL after the 1st half and brought on GC but probably jose wanted to save his subs for what he actaully did, take out a defender, get a goal and then put a defender in again. its all just ifs. i dont know why barca sold villa for 2 mil, or brought sanchez for 40mil, or bought ibra for 65 mil and then sell him for peanuts or for that matter why we bought torres for 50 mil. barca's transfer policy seems to be hopeless to me, probably that is the reason. your love for luiz is blinding u.

do they make stupid mistakes and give away amateurish goals, no they dont. thats all my point ever was. luiz is a liabitlty as much as he is an asset. also i dint say we should buy them only cos they were CL finalist. if u actually saw BVB play, u would know how goood they really are.

the only reason dante is playing is cos, BADSTUBER is gone for long.. (probably his carrer is gone.) and they dont have a bettr replacement. dante is no whre near WC. i mean WC class is vidic in his prime or JT in his prime. i dint think dante is anywhere near that level.

do we need to? as i said, luiz is not ir-replacable, infact far far far from it. plus 35 mil which has to be at least double of his worth offer comes then why not??? also BVB were finalists cos of a reason. their defence is better than ours, their striker is miles ahead of any thing we can throw, plus their pivot bender/gundogan/sahin is another level compared to ours (rambo/lamps/mikel). the only area we beat them in a player on player comparision is AMs and GK. anyways getting too deviated from the topic. the point is.was could we have done without luiz but plus 35 mil this window... DEFINITELY.

wow... luiz has been outperforming the CL finalists darkhorses. also i would say one of the best CB pair in the world, right now!!! (cant think of any other better)

well, u wanted DD to be sold (even joking about such a thing is considered BLASPHEMY in my mind), so i introduced a bit of an exagerration .

whats the point of a great performance after giving away a goal? the everton goal was a poor mistake, an amateurish mistake of trying to steal the ball with mikel and schurlle around the everton player and then leaving his position. the everton goal was his mistake. the norwich goal is a bad example of what i want to say. luiz giftts goal to the opposition. the norich goal was an acceptable mistake where he probably dint expect the ball from van wolsddjsdjsh (whatever). and so he was a second slower to react. but the everton goal and today's goal are literal gifts to the opposition which adds even more pressure to an already extremely pressurised MID. also how does seling luiz to barca for 35 frigging million become such a TABOO that u r reacting this way. for 35 mil we can probably get hummels+subotic.also u r reacting as if luiz is irreplacable or something, i dont think thats the case in any way.

WTF!!! any bans, i mean will he be missing from the touchline for any match??

perhaps but i dont remember him going around slapping people every second or third match he played in.

why did he get sent off???

^^^^^ HAHAHHAHAHAHHA... and people say, the media makes up stuff!!! HILARIOUS... "one of our best players today"- LOLMAX...

oh!!! we must have seen different everton vs chelsea and norwich vs chelsea games. also on a very very different side note, u actually believe luiz is worth 35mil? hazard was 32 mil, mata was 23, ozil is 42 and luiz is 35!!!!!!????

one bad day cant be compared to several bad days. read my post and reply to zolayes after the first one. i bring up the same exact iva incident, saying the same exact thing.

it was iva's mistake who let agbanlahor run from him too easily. cahill tries to stop the cross and slides in but is not able to stop the cut-back/cross. hardly a "mistake". now i dont even have to dig deep and still i have everton, and today's game for luiz. which were amateurish mistakes which had nothing to do with football/pace/skill but just good old concentration.

tell me cahill or iva's "mistakes" this season. not defensive frivolities but actual "mistakes"

now THAT was just weird!!!