didierforever

yup. except for ribery, every player walks into our starting 11.

i did not mean to demean porto in anyway. but no one expected porto to win and that too in the way they did last night. i was watching the psg-barca game, so just saw the goals but even that stats for bayern were underwhelming with a total of 3 shots on target. and if such a thing had happened to us, people would have come out with JOSE OUT!!!

did u read the jose thread or only the thread that u like. maybe u should read the GC, JT, COSTA, EDEN or even the rambo thread, infact, u know generally any players' thread except the useless one. but i do agree, that luiz is worth more than 50m (vietnamese dong). whatever tabloid i read is better than the one you do dude. infact, please give the links to the ones glorfying luiz's fantabulous performance last night. damn the cunt marquinhos, all his fault. he should have been standing right behind luiz with his legs closed just in case suarez nutmegged him. how dare marquinhos be trying to properly defend. the audacity. but its nice to know the kind of players u like (luiz, oscar). its a pretty good indicator.

i made a long and elaborate post (i thought u liked those, did not u?). i have yet to get a reply on it from u. and another one of those long and elaborate posts to counter pacquiao. why dont u try and see if u can counter any of those. dont see them as pointless. or is everything pointless when it comes to arguments which show how poor oscar is? so now we are down to grammar. i see people are running out of points. nice!!!

the other 10 players had him open his legs for suarez to fuck him over twice!!!! :lol: :lol: as for knowing better than the managers. who said we do? the best manager in the world kicked his ass out and replaced him with a 19 year old zouma. so bitch please!!! dont even try the "oh they are just haters and clowns, hating on poor old david". he is a shit defender and that should pretty much sum him up. (as for market, i guess torres is really worth 50 mil then :lol: no logic what so ever in the post above. well not surprising since the guy is trying to defend luiz's performance last night

i did not know that "injured" players usually played with their legs wide open.

fifa have banned chelsea football club from football for the next 10 years after being found guilty of running a scam in the transfer market by selling players like luiz for 50mil...

what if it was us who were losing 3-1 to porto. that would be a nice meltdown!!!

hhahahahhahahahah.. LORD LUIZ.. what a player.. what a "defender"!!!! hahahahahah.. fifa team of the year!!!

a 30 mil world class defender compared to a 30mil injury prone midfielder who has barely played in the last 2 seasons and looks like a shade of his former self??

we should atleast try!!!

would be a match made in heaven i read a stat somewhere that just 2 of city's outfield 10 were under 31. thats a massive makeover required. klopp would be a really good man for the job there. infact klopp+money scares me a little. hopefully RM go trophyless and sack carlo and buy klopp

kalou was a RW compared to oscar's CAM. so what is so different. if anything, a RW in a 4-3-3 is as likely to find himself in a goal scoring position as a CAM in a 4-2-3-1. basi football dude. seems most of the things u say are just stats that u get from dailymail and copy paste it on the forum. does not even look like u watch us play. also, oscar's main deficiency is his consistency, so out of desperation, just counting PL solves nothing. what has he done in CL against the likes of PSG? what did he do in carling cup against 2 legs of pool and a final against spurs. thats consistency. so i think the number of goals over the course of the season is a much better indicator. and that indicator tells me that oscar has 7 goals all season long (compared to kalou's 12 in 09-10 and at a much better rate - 156 minutes/goal compred to oscar's 383 [hopelessly poor] ). its good to see that u chose to neglect the main part of my argument about how no other attacking player in the team had minutes close to or even half of oscar's and yet u keep o bragging on his stats like they are a thing to be proud of. when u actually look at the stats instead of the ranks, u see how utterly hopeless his stats truly are. 179minutes for a goal/assist. just not good enough for the no.1 no.10 of a team of chelsea's calibre. it definitely hurts me to see how much oscar has contributed this season. it should hurt any sane minded CHELSEA FAN(read chelsea not oscar) to have our no.1 no.10 give us such pathetic numbers. i dont discredit chelsea playerS. tell me another one that i have. but i wont support half arsed mediocrity from someone who is clearlt taking his position for granted just cos our manager has some foolish sense of faith in him. as for happiness. i am happy seeing our team win the PL (almost) but i am not content. got to be better next season and this position of oscar has to be the no.1 (or no.2 after CB) position to be upgraded without a shread of doubt. and its not even like we dont have options. koke is a massive upgrade, pogba is a massive upgrade. even players in our current squad (willian and cesc). case closed.

what contribution is this? he has scored 7 goals all season. kalou scored 12 goals in 2009-10. WHAT A PLAYER!!! should we get a statue of him outside stamford bridge. oscar has scored 7 goals in 2683 minutes, kalou had scored 12 goals in 1874 minutes. see the difference!!!!!! and here we go again aabout defensive contribution? what defensive contribution is this? 4th most key passes when we probably have played oscar, willian, hazard and cesc all season long with hardly any variation.. so adding costa to the mix, our front 5 have been pretty stable so basically oscar ranks 4th out of 5... WOW.. what a player.. i think i should have expected azpi to be on the list... sometimes u know, using the little thing on the top of your head would be good dude, instead of simply blurting out useless stats. but that seems useless since now i have seen your pics, and i can understand why thinking wont be your strong suit case closed indeed DD - 1161 remy - 789 schurrle - 938 salah - 337 juan -216 but somehow u think that these players should be ahead of oscar in terms of key passes? or was it iva u were unsure of.

did not bosingwa and kalou win all of this and much more. makes them a great player i see. by the way, john o shea and wes brown say hi.

case closed??? ok dude.. what ever suits u!!! be happy with oscar and his mediocrity!!! what a season he is having is not he!!!

no he simply tapped in the ball. after willian and ivanovic's good work. kudos to him to find an open net from 5/6 yards out.

did not he just get dropped this weekend with fans all over wanting him to be sold.. well goes on to show what u see every week.

okay dude. varane is class and for the same amount of money its not even a contest who we should buy. but taking stones' name in the same breath as hummels and varane. and then u say u would take pique before hummels. a 6'6 player who is poor in the air!!! also, how does pique solve our problems when he was having the same ones with brca last season. i would prefer a HG player in GC than howedes.

just to get a proper visual, download the first half of newcastle home game. would show and reveal a lot of things.

POTENTIAL??? what potential is this that you keep talking about? potential to give away the ball every second touch? or unable to make a 5 yard pass? i have been watching the same thing for the past 3 years, and sorry to say, i dont see anything bright or worthwhile to give his so called potential another year to bring the club down. this is so weird, but are u sure u r watching the right koke. when i see him, he has great ball control, one touch passing, link up play, control of midfield along with his defensive prowess which makes him the perfect candidate as a xavi/iniesta replacement in barca or a DLP for us. his crosses and set pieces are plus not his USP

yes, sometimes pundits do say weird things. But name one who has said mikel is a better DM than matic. Somethings are obvious and the differemce in class of oscar and koke is one of them.

I have wrotten a couple of posts since morning of the difference between koke and oscar. You should probably gove it a read. I don't have to pretend that I watxh atm cos I actually do unlike majority on here whi are judging koke on last night. You should guve it a try watchong atm without the oscar gogles on. Might see the massove dearth on class between those 2. Also, could not u put it this way that the only people whi think koke is marginally bettet than oscar are the ones wearong the oscar goggles. I mean the guy is considered to be the best replacement for the likes of xavi/inoesta which is light years ahead of soneone who holds his place on chelsea's first team in front of willian only cpa the manager is hell bent on proving that this guy has the potential. Its not that hard to see the reality if u stop trolling. But who am I talking to.. someone who called oscar a GOAT..

^obvious troll is an obvious troll.

http://www.transfermarkt.com/koke/profil/spieler/74229 http://www.transfermarkt.com/oscar/profil/spieler/85314 koke - 4goals, 17 assists - 3471 minutes - 165 minutes/goalandassist oscar - 7 goals, 8 assists, 2683 minutes - 179 minutes/goalandassist http://www.whoscored.com/Players/41065 http://www.whoscored.com/Players/80764 koke - 2.7 tackles/game, 1.2 interceptions/game, 0.9 clearances/game, 2keypasses/game, (i would not included crosses as koke plays as a winger so it would be a bit unfair on oscar) oscar - 1.8 tackles/game, 0.5 interceptions/game, 1 clearance/game, 1.2 keypasses/game i mean i honestly cant find a proper stat which makes oscar better than koke. and if you actually watch koke play over the course of a season (and not 1 0-0 match against RM), you would find that he has much better hold up play, vision, passing range, set piece delivery and most importantly does not dwell on the ball (something which oscar, cesc, hazard and willian are very guilty of).