Kojo

I think he's actually gotten a lot better in terms of ability, not just matured to a degree. Like his passing and overall play seems to have improved and he can do a lot more regardless of just playing as a centre back.

Look I admire your respect for the other team, but how you can just say no complaints I just can't get my head around it. Aguero just drop kicked David Luiz and got no sending off? Zabaleta, Toure & Kompany made about a thousand fouls and no sending offs. Kompany sexually assaulted Torres in the box, and no penalty, and you have no complaints about any of it?. You know I didn't complain with the luck Nasri had, because they deserved to be at least 1-0 up before half time, but 2nd half I say we just about made that even, we played very well, City had the upperhand of the game overall maybe. But that doesn't mean there can't be any complaints, I am sick to death of stupid shit referees like Chris Foy refereeing these games, they are big games and they have fucking idiots refereeing them. Foy makes mistakes wherever he goes, that man is a disaster referee, yeah we've had trouble with Clattenburg and Webb but hell they've had some good games and are decent referees on average. Foy on the other hand, I've never seen a good game from that man ever.

I've just fell in love with this player, and even though I don't think this will end up a good buy in the long term, I just like him allround as a player. I love strikers who have that swagger when they score goals, Ba hits some of the sweetest and shit hot volleys I've ever seen, just like when Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink would crack goals from anywhere and put tremendous power on his shots. I used to love Jimmys goals, he would always fucking blast that fucker in, and Ba give him a good ball and he will twist or turn and BANG it's a goal, because that's... DEMBA... FUCKING... BA!!!!

Believe it or not I used to really like Mikel, like he was always one of the ones I would defend, but last season he just proved to me that he's not ready at all. Yeah sure I maybe I am harsh, that's just me, I am the bigget exaggarator on this forum. But he's not ready, and if he's going to be ready then it's certainly not now. Mikel in some sense does have some abillity in his locker, as I've always described him "good on the ball, bad off the ball". He is very good at keeping the ball, not many are as good as that for his weight, he rarely gets the ball took off him. But it's clear this season has been possibly his worst. He's been off form so many times, even his passing which has been a strong point for Mikel throughout his whole Chelsea career and It's just been shambolic this season, yeah once again i exaggerate but still you get what I'm saying, 'I aint happy'. My point is, and I've been making this point since november last season is that he's not ready, and will he ever be ready? I don't think so. But It's clear we have to get a new midfielder, yeah sure keep him in the team, but we need new midfielders we can't just keep holding onto him when he's playing bad.

Oh now you've done it, You've put Ramires into your arguement, here comes The Skipper to tell you that Ramires and Mikel are different players.

Mikel would actually be good if he wasn't so fucking shit.

Kompany should get done for sexual assualt, he was literally undressing Torres.

That's why i hate Kompany, dirtiest player in the league, he gets away with murder.

Aguero = CUNT

Who do you think you're talking to like that!? that's the worlds greatest producer that is!.

Why are we so shit against top teams?

Anyone see Mikel in the box? no he was miles behind about 7 city players.

Not enough work rate at all, no ones getting pressed, city have all the space in the world.

And I don't understand why Ba is playing so deep also, Ba is useless playing so deep, then again what else can we do, we can't even provide.

We are getting smashed

Mikel has been tidy so far, good start.

But in all honesty, if anyones getting personal it's Clevemayor I've done nothing but debate on this thread for ages, yet just because i always ignore his posts, he says i should be banned from here. That's just going way over the top, I haven't gotten personal in this thread for a very long time, but either way he ain't the first and wont be the last.

Yo Clevemayor Yo! Yo! That's wrong IMO I thoughts Mikel was very bad in this game, simply because he never shown enough passion to begin with, i pretty much just proven Choulo wrong. Say what you want about me, one day i'll be big and famous, it's gon happen soon, i mean come on Dre stole all my productions, Jay Z stole all my lyrics and so did Nas. That just proves that one day, i will be one of the best lyricsisisicsits soon, oh yeah and producer. - all lyrics by me

Right that's it! If it's an INTERNETZ war you want!, It's an INTERNETZ war you will get! COME ON BACKSTREET, WE ARE GOING TO WAR.

All this wrongness right here, i feel like posting something trying to be funny, oh fuck it ima just post some other shit instead Oh yeah i was the one who actually gave Dre that motivation to actually start producing but just to stay on topic, it's very good to know that qpr lost - my lyrics

Your banter is absolutely minging Your point was stupid, just because one boro fan said he wasn't good you went on like it was definite, so there i give you my mother fucking feedback on that shitty case. Now get your self to bed you scrawny arse.

Where are Bremin in the Bundesliga atm? I meant to say midfield, I think I edited my post afterwards.

The disadvantages you pointed out, well that comes with experience, experience you learn along with maturity as you will play in that role. I think it's best to get De Bruyne playing in that role now when he comes back. You seem to forget, Bundesliga is actually a very good league, probably one of the best and most entertaining. De Bruyne plays in the pivot of Werder Bremin, I thought he played very well against Bayern Munich, and the reason why i liked him he stood out, as he was the only one who could show class. He's not as aggressive as you're pointing out, he has been playing deep for Bremin, not slacking off upfield. But just to tell you, I don't want to play 4-2-3-1, but fuck it It's already going to happen. Although in a 4-3-3 I definitely agree with you, KDB would be a great choice as the LCM. But the problem is I can't see us playing that next season. Although in the double pivot i think he can handle it, it's about being confident in him or not, bringing him here only to be played over by Mata and Oscar and such it wouldn't be beneficial even in the slightest, he is coming here to play and play he shall. Obviously he wont be starting all the time in the pivot but he will see daylight enough times.

It would be foolish to not put him there in my opinion, I don't understand how he's too much of an aggresive passer? we don't have anyone who is comfortable on the ball and at the same time who has the creativity to keep the game running, De Bruyne can do that. Yeah you do have a point in defensive terms, but that will come with time. I'm not saying have him first team, becaues lets face it Mikel and Ramires will be here next season, not complaining about Ramires. However look at players like Rami who have a poor first touch and arent' so comfortable on the ball in the middle, we need players like De Bruyne, and I'm sorry but if we have Torres here next season then what's even the fucking point at all?. De Bruyne has so much potential, i think we can mature him into a perfect centre midfielder, i see great things for him there. Of coures it's just a matter of opinion though, who knows maybe he will make a better CAM. But however you must admit, a CAM is probably the last fucking thing we need right now.

When i watched him in the Olympics (because i didn't know what type of player he was) I thought, Oh so he's like a playmaker then? Because his vision and passing was fantastic, and he was playing so deep also. Even on his left foot he was picking out great passes, definitely one of the best in the tournament if not the best. Then he came to Chelsea and then i found out he is also a hazard taking on players, like when he almost went past the Stoke defence twice, i couldn't believe how tricky he was and full of such flair and creativity. I've always thought out of the three he will be the best, and at such a young age he was done very well, Oscar has just about everything in his locker, if he developes in the best possible way, we have some player on our hands I'll tell you that.