I presume you're talking about Torres, personally i had huge admiration for the way he played, i found him exciting to watch and i've never been excited by Van Persie. I also don't dislike Liverpool nearly as half as much as i do Arsenal, and i have always enjoyed victories over Arsenal and seeing them fail more than i do with Liverpool. As for Ashley, he was great business and i never had to endure him scoring against us and seeing him score for Arsenal so often.