Vesper

very strange indeed I am over it now, but we shall see what happens next summer

I think you might be misunderstanding me my first point the whole time had only to do with the cutoff age being one year too low 26 versus 25 that said there were a TONNE of 26yo and under players with lots of experience that we could have purchased far more experience than some of the pure youth we bought I disagree with a lot of the non youth buys (and some non buys as well, very much so, including a 28yo, Skriniar (the only outfield player I rated who was 27yo or older and was available and who would have come here) and an great, experienced AMF like Maddison) the following all were bad buys, and none of them are 'youth' Axel Disasi (unless he rapidly improves) Robert Sánchez Wesley Fofana Marc Cucurella Kalidou Koulibaly Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang Denis Zakaria (stupid loan as we never played him enough) plus Mykhaylo Mudryk (potentially looking like a massive bust, but I still have hope) now............... there so many other (non youths, but also almost all 26 and under) ones I would have preferred, players with a lot of experience I so do NOT want to buy only youth to replace those shit buys above, not at all my other point was different I am calling out this myth that there was a lot of 27yo and older (up to 30yo, as after that, save for GKers, a small amount of some CFs, and a smaller amount of CBs, we are talking about mainly players in real or soon real decline) players who were good enough, available, and willing to come here there just were hardly any IMHO one 30yo (Oblak) no 29 yos two 28 yos (Maignan and Skriniar) no 27 yos

aids discussion, which is, afterall, why we are here Jorgi was 26yo when we signed him so within my window of age (plus, trequartistas (a very rare type of player), like GKers, CBs and CFs. tend to age better) Kova kad only just turned 24 three months before when we signed him (he is still only 29) not if we are talking about players good enough (using your two examples, so of roughly of similar quality) and are over 26yo atm (as my discussion is about the age limits of targets, which I delineate as 16 to 26yos, as I disagree with the 25yo hard cut off, 26yo is the age limit for me for the positions we are talking about, maybe 27, 28 in some rarer situations) ones who both are available and who are willing to come there very very few exist who are 27, 28, 29 (especially Wingers and AMFs and non backup CFs) and who are viable, available, and willing to come and fill a need for us, again as I have shown in multiple posts

The incredible story of Joao Palhinha’s failed Bayern move https://thedailybriefing.io/i/136682837/the-incredible-story-of-joao-palhinhas-failed-bayern-move It was an incredible Friday at Bayern Munich, especially with the remarkable details of the Joao Palhinha deal collapsing. We witnessed some crazy scenes in Munich, in the headquarters of Bayern, and with the player, who was shocked by the situation. Palhinha was convinced he was joining Bayern, he had completed two parts of his medical tests, all the documents were ready, his contract was ready, and he did media duties in a Bayern shirt. Everything was done for Palhinha to join Bayern, but Fulham needed a transfer to come in as a replacement. They needed to get this done by 6pm because the transfer window was closing in Germany at that time, but what happened is that Fulham didn’t find a player by that time. They tried, though, for a few different players, including Youssouf Fofana and Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg. However, they couldn’t reach an agreement. Then the crucial part of this story - Scott McTominay. From what I’m told, Fulham also spoke to the Manchester United midfielder, but he said no to Fulham. So what happened is that the Palhinha deal collapsed because Fulham couldn’t find a replacement. Palhinha was shocked, and Thomas Tuchel was not happy at all with the situation - he had been insisting to have the defensive midfielder for a long time, even though Bayern only pushed for the move on Deadline Day. So for Tuchel it was a big problem to manage this story, with the player really sad and disappointed. He then had to return to London after a message from Fulham, so this was something really incredible and let’s see what it means for Palhinha’s future at Fulham.

well, give me (and everyone else, I am NOT the be and end off of the board, I am just a woman with opinions and try to back them up with lists and facts) some names amd we can have a great discussion on them and where they would fit in on our 25 man roster I myself suggested a lot of older stop gap CFs which would have really helped us (and Jackson) out I think we missed a trick not signing one of them (or some other CF that I did not list) here is a long list of some who were it there then (some are hard AF to pull) in order of valuation (al are 29yo and older) Gaëtan Laborde Callum Wilson Wissam Ben Yedder Ciro Immobile Memphis Depay Niclas Füllkrug Jhon Córdoba Ludovic Ajorque Michael Olunga Chimy Ávila Karl Toko Ekambi Arkadiusz Milik Andrea Belotti Alassane Plea Michael Gregoritsch Marko Livaja Kevin Volland Duván Zapata Andrej Kramaric Paco Alcácer Marvin Ducksch Nicolás Ibáñez Ihlas Bebou Yussuf Poulsen Andy Delort João Pedro (Grêmio) Willian José Cédric Bakambu Luis Muriel Martin Braithwaite Joshua King Marko Arnautovic Robin Quaison Edin Dzeko Edinson Cavani Hulk

Yes, but (not counting 26yos) I destroyed this whole 'Oh there were all these wonderful older players out there that we passed on' claptrap multiple times on here, and in great detail. There just were not that many at all 27yo and up players compared to top class 26yo and unders, players who would come here and who were available. The whole thing is a myth as I painstakingly have shown on multiple posts. It is similar to some who whinge on about not targeting better players, yet, when pressed, they often do not name any (or very very few) that are actually feasible.

I simply do not know the 5yo to 15yo youth market (nor do I want to waste time on that unless a club is paying me to go out and bloodhound them, and wifey would have a fit with me gone most of the year anyway, lol) but my peak years to buy for sure are 16yo to 26yo. IF 27/28yo and up (29yo no way) unless a GK (30, 31 cut off unless strictly a backup), CB (and then only if 27 or 28yo, or a veteran stopgap buy like Thiago,who turned into massive player, a key for us) or CF (30yo cut off unless a Lewa/Benz type, or a veteran stopgap like the utterly superb Giroud who is still a beast) then I will usually say pass (I warned on Ziyechs age, for instance, besides the fact I did not really rate him) So many players, by the time they are 27, 28yo, have CRAZY mileage on their bodies due to the insane amount of club and country games they play in the modern game now. They just burn out (most that are not GK, CB, or CF) by the time they hit 30yo or so.

EXCLUSIVE: Manchester United will be taken OFF the market by the Glazer family after bidders fail to reach their asking price in a huge blow to furious fans... as they hold out for £10BN for the club The Glazers are holding out for £10billion to part ways with Manchester United The owners have received offers throughout a protracted negotiating period Only Sheikh Jassim of Qatar and Sir Jim Ratcliffe emerged as serious bidders https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12474251/Manchester-United-taken-market-Glazer-family-bidders-fail-reach-asking-price-huge-blow-furious-fans-hold-10BILLION-club.html

One point. I think he is being too harsh on Cole Palmer. I did not include him on my lists as Citeh (and crucially, the player himself) said no way he is being sold. That all changed in the last couple of weeks of the window, as Palmer, after showing extremely well in pre-season and after talking to the club, basically saw no way to playing a lot for the next 2 or so years and asked to be moved. At the end of last season, if you gave ne the choice between Smith-Rowe, Olise (who I MUST add, was INJURED when we were trying to buy him), or Palmer, I would say Palmer, hands down. Far higher potential upside IMHO. Looking back on the window, I think the board was off by 1 year (fine margins can make a big difference and this is fine margins, as we are only talking months or even DAYS (see below) ) in setting the age cap to buy. They settled on only buying players 25yo and under at the time of the window closing, when I would have went for 26yo as the cap (and I am consistent in this as 27/28yo players often (for all positions other than GK, CB, and CF) make me a bit leery). IF we had set 26yo as the cap, we would have likely went hard for two AMFs, either of which would now be a HUGE asset. Maddison and Lucas Paquetá. Lucas Paquetá would have obviously been more expensive but the most galling part is that he missed the cutoff age by 5 days! Date of birth/Age: Aug 27, 1997 (26) Now, that said, in regards to Paquetá, there were two other issues. Big ones, and interlocked 1. His potential suspension for gambling and 2. Citeh turning his head and wanting him BADLY (and that potential gambling suspension is why (thank fuck, as he would have SO strengthened Citeh, especially with De Bruyne out for a long time) Citeh pulled out at the last minute. That all said............ There is no excise for us not trying to go HARD for Maddison just because he is 9, 10 months older than the 25yo cap. JFC we could use him now, and he is HG. Plus he went to Spuds (arrrrrrf) for £23m LESS than we shit away on that rotter CuCu! Not just that, his salary is £5K LESS PW (£170 v 175K PW) than CuCu's. My main issues so far with Boehly and the rest, in terms of buys or cocked up buy attempts (I will not include Ugarte as PSG simply offered him nearly twice the salary, noth we can do there, plus we got Lavia, and Aubameyang was just a crap shoot, we was great at Barca, but after he was smacked in the head with a steel bar during the robbery, he was never the same) are in no order 1. Not going for Maddison due that stupid 25yo and under rule 2. Axel Disasi (should have went hard for Jean-Clair Todibo or Mohamed Simakan, or if we had not shit away the insane cash on Fofana, we could have landed my number one overall CB want (still is by far) António Silva 3. Robert Sánchez (should have went for Mamardashvili) 4. Wesley Fofana (should have went for Skriniar or Bremer)as he was DAMAGED goods (I took him off all my lists as soon as he destroyed his leg at Leicester) 5. CuCu (insanity) JFC. take that cash wasted, and add on selling Hall and Maatsen, and we could have purchased Davies or Mendes and have had £30m to £40m left over! 6. KK (waste of money on a clearly spent player, at least we sold him 7 and 8. failing during the last days now on two youth I DESPERATELY wanted after doing deep dives. U still want them SO bad, hopefully we can sort it out in January or summer 2024 Antonio Nusa (superb young winger, only 18) Gabriel Moscardo (one of the top youth DMFs out there, only 17) 9. Failing to sell Gallagher (CuCu may still be sold to the Saudis) and finally 10. Perhaps buying Mykhaylo Mudryk (I still have lots of hope, he has crazy talent and pace, just needs to get right in his head)

I am still baffled as to why we did not but Mamardashvili for £4.5m less than Sanchez cost.

£35m pure profit. Great sale.

lol just on name alone I am going to follow this bloke Seedy Jatta what a seedy hat trick!

Ajax did the same thing with Spertsyan as we did with Zakharyan both turned down due to playing in Russia, so no go (and ironically both are of Armenian descent, not Russian)

Vlahovic missed a pen still nil 1 Juve

both our starting fullbacks (when healthy) are better (Zinchenko is the only LB on their roster and I rate Chilwell over him, no way would I swap unless i knew for sure Chilwell will become perma injured) they literally have no CMFs on their roster so that is a default win I rate our combined CMFs and DMFs over theirs they do have better everywhere else (unless Djordje Petrovic turns out to be a monster) although I do not rate Gabriel that much overall, and surely either Colwill and/or Badi eventually pass him by so 4 Chels 7 Arse atm they CRUSH us in terms of offensive players

Еmроlі vs Juvеntus 3 September 2023 at 19:45. Browser Links 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 99% Web 95% LS4U 95% Web 95% Web 95% Web 95% Web 95% Web 95% Web 95% Web 95% Web 95% Web 95% Web 95% Web 1001kbps 95% Aliez 998kbps 75% Aliez 998kbps 95% Aliez 2500kbps 95% Aliez 95% Web 95% Web 95% Web 95% Web 95% Web 95% Web 95% Web AceStream Links 95% 95% 8000kbps 95% 8000kbps 95% 95% 95%

well, the only players older than 25yo (the supposed cutoff by the board) and under 31yo that we could have had a real go at, ones that are truly good enough and might have maybe come here were very few one 30yo (Oblak) no 29 yos two 28 yos (Maignan and Skriniar) no 27 yos then six 26yos (the 2 AMFs are the biggest misses) Frenkie de Jong Central Midfield 26 (too similar to Enzo IMHO) Nicolò Barella Central Midfield 26 (we got Caicedo instead) Lucas Paquetá Attacking Midfield 26 James Maddison Attacking Midfield 26 Ousmane Dembélé Right Winger 26 (I know many here don't rate him) Lautaro Martínez Centre-Forward 26 (I know many here don't rate him, even more than posters who do not rate Dembele) ALL the rest of the ones I truly rate and who were available and were not pipe dreams are 25yo and under, so fall under the youth movement and only four them were even 25: (Chiesa who is coming off a massive injury, Theo Hernández, who is shaky defensively,Federico Valverde, who is basically a pipedream as well, and Bruno Guimarães , who we already have too many similar players to now) the rest were 24 and under, and 2 of those are only 19yo (António Silva, who is my NUMBER ONE (by far) CB available want on the planet atm, and then the near pipe dream Gavi) so, the non youth (ie over 25 and still, under 31) buys who would have been great (ie to my approval in terms of quality) are so few in reality these are the only 'non youth' ones (and I grant the ones in bold are HUGE misses) who were even remotely available and would come here that a person can have a go about (and almost all were hard as fuck pulls): Skriniar (grrrr) the 2 AMFs are the other two of the biggest misses (Paquetá and Maddison) the 2 GKers: Oblak and possibly Maignan (both insanely hard pulls, and I would rather have the 'youth' Diogo Costa or probably (it is close) Mamardashvili than Maignan but I will list him as he is better than the 2 we have now, IMHO, and he is a deffo clear 4th (or 3rd, if you rate him over Mamar) in terms or remotely available keepers) plus Ousmane Dembélé and Lautaro Martínez, both of whom many here do not rate (I rate them both, but will not put them bold) and finally Frenkie de Jong and Nicolò Barella (who we do not need as we have similar players now, would have been crazy hard to pull and expensive)

inertia from the end of Roman, plus a complete rebuild, change of focus from Boehly to pure youth

I meant for years now, not just last season and the few games now

was a good watch

Manure are horrific on the road versus every top team except for us

3 1 Jesus

might be given as an OG on Evans

Declan wins the game

even Neville said it was