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Isak is not worth (for us atm) £130m IMHO there is one team (amongst the richest big 5 league euro power teams atm) above all the rest who needs him: Pool Barca as well IF Lewa finally slows down, BUT they cannot afford him Manure also could so use him, but they are nowhere near a powerhouse atm Arse now has Gyökeres Real will stay with Mbappe as CF Citeh obviously do not need him Bayern have Kane PSG perhaps would go for him, but thier systen doesnt need a pure CF Atletico have Julian Alvarez
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Club World Cup Final 2025 - Chelsea 3-0 PSG
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Mou needs to STFU. As for Pool and Barca not being in the FWCC (the only 2 remotely recent CL winning sides to not make it,, and Barca's last CL win was 10 years ago), they knew what they had to do to get in and they both failed. Arsenal have never won the CL, they have only 2 European trophies in 135 years of football (UEFA Cup Winners' Cup in 1993–94, and the non UEFA Inter-Cities Fairs Cup in 1969–70) so they can piss off, they are NOT even in the coversation. We had more European trophies (3) BEFORE Roman bought us than Arse still have (2). We now have ELEVEN trophies at continental and/or global level. Finally, the only other 2 UEFA sides who have won the CL in the last THIRTY YEARS who did not make it to the FWCC were Manure (last CL win was 17 years ago (Moscow, grrrrrrrrrr), AND they are shit now, have been shit for years) and AC Milan, who last won the CL 18 years ago and they are hardly a powerhouse atm -
this was the last thing I saw Former Aston Villa midfielder set for loan move just one year after £19m transfer Aston Villa agreed to sell Omari Kellyman to Premier League rivals Chelsea in last summer's transfer window https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-Chelsea-transfer-kellyman-31808975 14 JUN 2025
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I have been patient with Kellyman he has huge potential I have deffo not been of the ones who relentlessly slag him off
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some of the 8
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£61m atm £55m + £6m in add-ons seems fair
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Alexander Isak chooses between Liverpool and Chelsea after Newcastle exit request https://www.teamtalk.com/news/alexander-isak-transfer-news-liverpool-Chelsea-newcastle-exit Alexander Isak has decided which club he wants to join if he is successful in leaving Newcastle United this summer, with the Saudis trying to battle Liverpool and Chelsea for his capture. Isak is contracted to Newcastle until June 2028, but the Magpies have been hoping to tie him down to an extension in recent months. They want to reward the striker for his superb performances by making him the best-paid player in the club’s history, though Isak is not keen on such a deal. He knows some of the biggest and best clubs in the world want to sign him this summer and is eager to explore such options. TEAMtalk’s transfer insider Fraser Fletcher exclusively broke the news on Thursday morning that a frustrated Isak wants OUT at St James’ Park and that a move to Liverpool remains a very firm possibility this summer. The Sweden star is concerned Newcastle will not be able to match his ambitions of winning major honours such as the Premier League and Champions League, and is therefore pushing for an exit. We understand Isak’s scan on a minor thigh issue came back clear, but he still has not travelled for their pre-season tour in Singapore as he wants to speak with interested clubs. Since Fletcher’s story broke, a number of leading journalists including Fabrizio Romano, Ben Jacobs, Craig Hope and Alex Crook have followed TEAMtalk’s exclusive. Sources have told us that Isak is aiming to join Liverpool, and this has been backed up by Sky Sports reporter Sacha Tavolieri. Writing on X, formerly Twitter, Tavolieri states that Liverpool remains Isak’s ‘priority’ even after they signed fellow striker Hugo Ekitike from Eintracht Frankfurt. Saudi club Al-Hilal have opened talks for Isak, but the 25-year-old has informed them he is hoping to follow the likes of Ekitike and Florian Wirtz to Liverpool. Chelsea have also made an approach for Isak, viewing his signing as a sublime market opportunity. But Isak sees Liverpool as the best fit for him both stylistically and in terms of winning the biggest trophies. Isak has been deeply impressed by the work Arne Slot has done at Liverpool and feels the Dutchman can elevate his game. Liverpool CAN afford monster Alexander Isak deal Liverpool would need to pay upwards of £130million to sign Isak as Newcastle would hate to see him go. But Slot’s Premier League champions could finance a deal by selling players such as Darwin Nunez, Luis Diaz and Harvey Elliott. They have already broken their transfer record on Wirtz but are willing to do so again to land Isak. The fact they had a very quiet summer window in 2024 helps hugely. Newcastle will not be bullied and still have plans to keep their talisman, seeing him as a cornerstone of their project and knowing his exit would spark uproar among the club’s fans. But the Magpies are also sounding out replacements in case they have to accept an astronomical offer for Isak. Newcastle will not want an unhappy player spoiling the mood in the dressing room and Isak’s stance could therefore prove crucial in this transfer pursuit. By signing Isak, Liverpool could either partner him with Ekitike up front or opt to use the latter on the left wing as a replacement for Diaz. Liverpool completing a deal for Isak would make their summer arguably one of the best transfer windows in Premier League history, as Milos Kerkez and Jeremie Frimpong joined even before the likes of Wirtz and Ekitike.
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bollocks it was a pure Machiavellian evil calculation that motherfucking war crim (and regular crim) knew exactly what he was doing
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Chelsea in talks with Ajax over move for defender Jorrel Hato https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6496268/2025/07/23/jorrel-hato-Chelsea-transfers/ By Liam Twomey July 23, 2025 9:24 pm GMT+2 Chelsea are in discussions with Ajax over a potential move for defender Jorrel Hato. The Athletic reported on July 17 that Chelsea had made an enquiry for Hato. The 19-year-old has been the subject of interest from a number of Premier League clubs; The Athletic reported in December 2023 that Arsenal were interested in the teenager as a long-term defensive target. Hato plays as a left-sided centre-back or left-back and has featured 111 times in all competitions for Ajax, captaining the side on occasions. He joined Ajax’s academy from Sparta Rotterdam in 2018 and broke into the first team in January 2023. He then made his senior Netherlands debut in November 2023, the first of his six international appearances to date. Chelsea have once again been active in the summer transfer market with the signings of Liam Delap, Joao Pedro and Jamie Gittens, alongside the arrivals of players on pre-existing agreements including Estevao, Dario Essugo, Mamadou Sarr and Kendry Paez. On the outgoings front, Chelsea have seen Kepa Arrizabalaga and Noni Madueke join Arsenal, Mathis Amougou head to sister club Strasbourg, Djorde Petrovic move to Bournemouth and Caleb Wiley return to Watford on loan. What You Should Read Next Meet Jorrel Hato, the Ajax teenager tracked by Arsenal: ‘I want to achieve big things’ The 18-year-old Netherlands defender is trying to return his club to the top of the Eredivisie, attracting big-club attention along the way Hato a top European prospect Analysis by Andy Jones and Mark Carey Hato is one of the hottest defensive prospects in Europe, having played regularly for Ajax for the last two seasons. Graduating from the Ajax academy, he is technically gifted and confident in possession. He is used to being in a ball-dominant side and he is not afraid to be adventurous with the ball at his feet both through dribbling or using his passing range. For context, only PSV Eindhoven’s Richy Ledezma posted a better pass completion rate than Hato’s 89 per cent among Eredivisie full-backs last season. At such a young age, he is still growing into his body and that will only benefit him defensively, an area he is good in but has room to improve — he is a solid one-on-one defender, reads the game well but does not dominate aerially.
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Which Premier League clubs do the most transfer deals between them? https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6508081/2025/07/23/premier-league-transfer-deals-most-clubs/ As football supporters, we have probably all thought it, or even heard a fellow fan say it — “We’re signing another player from them?” Generally speaking, Premier League teams are comprised of a broad spectrum of players; some from the United Kingdom, some from abroad. Some join from lower leagues, looking to climb the career ladder, others move from bigger sides on the way down and looking to find their natural level in the game. Some arrive for big fees and on big wages, others from the bargain end of the market. But sometimes patterns emerge, such as Arsenal and Chelsea doing quite a lot of business, players moving regularly between Newcastle United and Nottingham Forest, Chelsea seemingly having a hotline to Brighton & Hove Albion or a succession of transfers between Everton and Aston Villa. So, if you are a supporter of a Premier League team wondering whether they do actually do a lot of business with that club you think they do a lot of business with, wonder no longer. The Athletic, with the help of data website Transfermarkt, which logs all player movement, has been adding up the numbers to compile a table. We tallied up every instance of a player moving between Premier League clubs since the summer of 2020, when football returned for ‘Project Restart’ after the three-month shutdown due to the Covid-19 pandemic, to the end of the most recent completed transfer window in February this year. The current summer trading period has not been included, but The Athletic will revisit the data after deadline day on September 1. Arsenal and Chelsea will already be rising up the ranking, given the deal last week that took Noni Madueke from Stamford Bridge to the Emirates Stadium. Madueke has joined Arsenal from Chelsea (Francois Nel/Getty Images) We have included every club that has played in the Premier League in the subsequent five seasons, plus Sunderland, who have won promotion back to the top flight for the forthcoming campaign. That takes the total number of teams to 28. We counted all signings, including loans and free transfers, to paint a complete picture of how often players move between particular clubs. While the graphic below highlights the teams that have done business with each other the most, in some cases, deals involving the other 27 are evenly spread. That means they have not cleared the bar — four — with any club for transfers back and forth. Brentford, for example, have not seen more than two players move in either direction between them and any one other Premier League side. Three was the maximum number for Liverpool (with both Brighton and Fulham), and Wolves (with Manchester City), but for others, there is a well-trodden path between them and one or two of their rivals. Take Villa and Everton, for example. Since the summer of 2020, six players have moved between them, with Lucas Digne, Amadou Onana and Lewis Dobbin going from Merseyside to the West Midlands and Anwar El Ghazi, Ashley Young and Tim Iroegbunam heading in the opposite direction. There is no obvious link between the two clubs that would help explain such frequent movement. Young’s switch was on a free transfer, so club-to-club contact would have been minimal. But Irogbunam and Dobbin — young players with a high ‘book value’ — swapping one for the other on successive days last June helped both teams with their profitability and sustainability rules (PSR) compliance. Only those who brokered the deals will know the motivations for certain, but it is clear that both achieving a high transfer fee for young players only on the fringes of their first team was excellent from an accounting point of view. What You Should Read Next How Premier League transfers really work in 2025 – and are rules being broken? Confused by the way players' moves to new clubs happen these days? Steve Madeley explains what actually goes on... Those six deals give Villa and Everton the joint-highest figure for moves between two clubs in the past five years. They are matched by Leeds United and Bournemouth, who have racked up the same number of player transfers between them in the same period. Leif Davis, Tyler Adams and Luis Sinisterra twice (once on loan, then permanently) have gone from Elland Road to the Vitality Stadium, with Jaidon Anthony and Joe Rothwell making the opposite switch. The trend seems fairly random, although Bournemouth appear to have made the most of Leeds’ lower league position and relatively weak bargaining position when the Yorkshire club spent time outside of the top flight. The five moves between Leeds and Tottenham Hotspur — the former’s next highest number — might owe something to then Elland Road CEO Angus Kinnear’s cordial relationship with Spurs chairman Daniel Levy, which would have made negotiations potentially run more smoothly. Leeds and Spurs have done a lot of business — like for Joe Rodon (George Wood/Getty Images) There were also six moves between Newcastle and Nottingham Forest. Jack Colback, Jonjo Shelvey, Chris Wood (twice) and Elliot Anderson have headed south from Tyneside, with Odysseas Vlachodimos travelling north. The deals that took Anderson and Vlachodimos in opposite directions on the same day just over a year ago were widely seen as benefiting both clubs’ PSR positions, although the former has turned out to be an effective signing for Forest. There were also five moves between Forest and Manchester United and between Chelsea and Brighton — a number that would rise to six if the ongoing window was included, with Joao Pedro going from the south coast to the capital. The Brazilian forward followed Moises Caicedo, Robert Sanchez and Marc Cucurella in making big-money moves from the Amex Stadium to Stamford Bridge in the past five years. Levi Colwill — on loan — and Billy Gilmour went from west London to the seaside resort. And there are those in the Brighton hierarchy who believe Chelsea’s repeated return visits, chequebook in hand, are a compliment to their highly-successful recruitment model. This ends up acting as a solid extra layer of due diligence for Chelsea’s big-money buys. There is also the fact Paul Winstanley, one of Chelsea’s co-sporting directors, was previously head of scouting at Brighton. Few will have a better understanding of the players in the club’s current squad — or at least those Brighton signed in his time — than one of the key decision makers at Chelsea. Who has your club done most deals with? Arsenal Chelsea, Fulham (4) Aston Villa Everton (6) Bournemouth Leeds (6) Brentford Arsenal, Burnley, Liverpool (2) Brighton Chelsea (5) Burnley Man City, Norwich (4) Chelsea Brighton (5) C Palace Chelsea (4) Everton Aston Villa (6) Fulham Arsenal, Chelsea (4) Ipswich Brighton, West Brom (4) Leeds Bournemouth (6) Leicester Chelsea, Sheff Utd (4) Liverpool Brighton, Fulham (3) Luton Aston Villa (5) Man City Burnley (4) Man Utd N Forest (5) Newcastle N Forest (6) Norwich Bournemouth, Burnley (4) N Forest Newcastle (6) Sheff Utd Leicester (4) Southampton Bournemouth, West Ham (4) Sunderland Leeds, Tottenham (3) Tottenham Leeds (5) Watford Brighton, Everton, N Forest, West Ham (3) West Brom Ipswich (4) West Ham Southampton (4) Wolves Man City (3) It is worth noting there are a lot of pairs of clubs among our 28 who have not done any business with each other. Arsenal, for example, have engaged in zero transfers with Burnley, Everton, Ipswich Town, Leeds, Leicester City, Liverpool, Manchester United, Sunderland, Tottenham, Watford and Wolves. This is repeated across the league. But it’s clearly not the case between certain teams. Whether both parties have found mutual PSR benefits by selling and signing players back and forth, or they have used existing relationships, there is often a reason why a club goes back again and again to sign players from the same team. Expect that to continue — whether or not you wish your lot would go fishing for talent in a slightly different lake.
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Frankfurt are about to hit profits of €345m in six years just from selling strikers – this is how they do it https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6508175/2025/07/23/eintracht-frankfurt-hugo-ekitike-analysis-strikers-sales/ Most clubs would feel a little uneasy, maybe even start to panic, if they always had to think about selling their best attacking player come the end of a season. Others, understandably, would fight tooth and nail to try to keep that key figure. But for Eintracht Frankfurt, under the guidance of sporting director Markus Krosche, letting their top goalscorers go — as they have done after four of the past seven German Bundesliga seasons — has swiftly become a natural and necessary part of their self-sustainable approach. “I call them end clubs,” Krosche said in an August 2024 interview with Sky Sports, referring to the likes of Paris Saint-Germain, Manchester City and Liverpool. “We are a club in between, who sell to these end clubs. “This is what I tell the players: ‘If your development is faster than our development as a club, and I get the money I expect, I will let you go’. This is why so many young talents like to come to Frankfurt, because we know what we have to do to develop them. “Selling players is part of my job. I am not emotional about it. It’s business.” Though it sounds clinical, Krosche’s attention to detail — having invested heavily in the training facilities and coaching staff at Frankfurt over the past few years — is just as beneficial for the players as it is for the club’s financial growth. They have hired psychologists and nutrition experts and can rely on a team of specialist coaches to work individually with young players, helping them to achieve their goals, which are, transparently, to move on and to play for Europe’s biggest sides. With the imminent sale of Hugo Ekitike to Premier League champions Liverpool, reported by The Athletic to amount to around €91million with add-ons, Frankfurt’s net transfer profit since summer 2023 will rise to around €161m. Their two biggest sales until that deal is official — Randal Kolo Muani and Omar Marmoush — both arrived as free agents and left commanding fees of €165m between them. When Ekitike is factored in, and only accounting for the centre-forwards they’ve sold, Frankfurt will have made a profit of around €345million (£300m/$405m at current rates) in just six years. Even before Krosche’s 2021 appointment, in summer 2019, Frankfurt more than tripled their original investments when they sold Sebastien Haller and Luka Jovic in the same window. Andre Silva, who came in that summer on an initial loan to replace them, left for almost eight times the price for which he was purchased in summer 2020, just a year later, after scoring 28 league goals in the ensuing campaign. From a pure profit perspective, no club have generated more across the past three years, according to Transfermarkt, and they’ve done it while climbing steadily up the table: from seventh in 2022-23, to fifth, to matching their highest-ever Bundesliga finish last season by coming third. So, just how do Frankfurt keep doing it? And is it something we can expect to continue, with even more money coming their way? From a player-recruitment perspective, Frankfurt’s approach to ensuring future profitability isn’t groundbreaking. They target youngsters with high sell-on potential, placing particular emphasis on those who are positionally versatile and suit the club’s style of play. It’s the consistency and commitment to their methodology, along with the environment they create for incoming players, that helps them reap the rewards. The execution of their strategy is always clear to see, with 21 of Frankfurt’s last 26 permanent signings being under the age of 25 when they joined the club. They also, crucially, are not afraid to spend themselves if they spot a market opportunity, and will offer eight-figure fees if they believe that player fits their model. A look at their 10 most expensive buys illustrates that pattern. One of the oldest purchases in the list was that of Arthur Theate, though he was just 24 at the time. With plenty of top-flight experience in Italy’s Serie A and France’s Ligue 1 behind him, he came in from Rennes last August and played the third-most minutes of anyone in the Frankfurt squad. Of the 10, six are still at the club, and the others were sold for a cumulative profit of €111million, with a hefty boost to come when Ekitike officially becomes a Liverpool player. Jonathan Burkardt has yet to play competitively for Frankfurt but looks to be another acquisition that aligns closely with their recruitment project. Burkardt only turned 25 this month, so the three-time Germany international centre-forward has his best years ahead of him after leaving boyhood club Mainz. He scored 18 Bundesliga goals in what was his farewell season after recovering from the knee injury that kept him out for most of 2022-23 and the start of the following campaign. Able to play across the front line, as the position map illustrates below, even filling in at wing-back in his early appearances in the top flight, Burkardt is another forward who is adaptable, athletic and quick to spot opportunities to run in-behind — exactly the kind of attacking player who tends to prosper in a high-energy Frankfurt side. There are distinct similarities between him and now-Manchester City forward Marmoush, who was also picked up by Frankfurt after showing his versatility elsewhere in the Bundesliga with Stuttgart and Wolfsburg. As he has gone on to show in the Premier League, the Egyptian can play anywhere across the final third, but his skill set — an excellent striker of the ball from distance and a springy, powerful runner on the counter-attack — saw him thrive at a club that gave him the freedom to exploit space in transition. As we can see below, Frankfurt were the side to have generated the most expected goals (xG) from fast-break situations last season, only being outscored in those scenarios by Liverpool across Europe’s big four leagues (Premier League, Bundesliga, La Liga and Serie A). With Marmoush at the heart of their distinct attacking approach, alongside Ekitike, another player similarly well-suited to free-flowing football on the break, the pair saw their respective valuations take off. In that respect, Frankfurt’s commitment to quick, attacking football under coach Dino Toppmoller goes some way to explaining their recent success in the transfer market. Appealing to clubs in the Premier League, far and away the highest-spending division in world football, will be key to the consistent profitability of their model. And given that the English top flight jumped above the Bundesliga for the number of direct attacks per game last season, players who can be decisive at speed will continue to command premium prices. Speaking to The Athletic in May, Frankfurt CEO Axel Hellmann used the example of Marmoush to underline the importance of targeted training within his club to accelerate the upward trajectories of their talented players. “We have one of the best coaching teams in the Bundesliga,” Hellmann said. “That’s really important, because we sign young players and the process of educating them, which is what is making us famous at the moment, involves a lot. “When Marmoush arrived, he wasn’t really a goalscorer, but our coaches worked with him mentally, physically, strategically, and tactically and technically on the pitch. Our team worked on all his abilities and we created a whole new player. It’s good education and good coaching.” Marmoush joined Frankfurt as a pacy, positionally fluid attacking player, but he left 18 months later as so much more. He became a clinical finisher, his work on free kicks and set pieces was evident, plus the technical ability and combination play to both break down low blocks and strike with space ahead. Some will view their approach as lacking ambition, but Frankfurt’s acceptance of their place in the footballing food chain is arguably their greatest strength. What You Should Read Next Hugo Ekitike: Analysing how he fits into Liverpool’s attacking structure The 23-year-old French striker has all the attributes to be an elite No 9 - here's what he will offer in Arne Slot's side Their track record of developing and upselling young players now speaks for itself and helps attract some of the best prospects to their club. There are no delusions at Frankfurt, no blockers; if a player works hard to realise their talent, they will get the move they crave and help the club to achieve their objectives along the way. All that remains to be seen now is how they continue to scale up on the pitch. Even with Champions League football on the menu for the coming season, Frankfurt will struggle to reinvest all of their immense transfer profits into the squad, as they are unlikely to attract the kind of star player who can sign and then immediately improve them. They have little choice but to keep investing in the future, so even if we see a slight drop-off from that third-placed finish, don’t expect Frankfurt’s striker conveyor belt to slow down.
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split the difference £48m plus toss them a prime loan of one of our super youth players do NOT fuck this up over a few million quid (like we did with Maignan) Hato is fairly unique atm he absolutely can play both LB and CB and has insane upside
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I would think that IF NUFC get around £115-£120m for Isak, they would be happy to only have to pay around HALF of that for his replacement. I know it is against our interests (perhaps) to not dangle Nico to NUFC, but I would rather Nico goes to a less threatening EPL side, or, ideally a non EPL team
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Finished how? Bibi allowed billions to flow into Hamas from Qatar and other sources in an effort to play divide et impera games with the PA in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza. One of the reasons October 7th went down was becuase BiBi and the the thugs had concentrated most of the IDF's attention to supporting the illegal settlers and their violent illegal land grabs in the West Bank, PLUS the Israel military female 'watchers' of the Gaza border were ignored (as documents here long ago) when they reported a huge change in paramiltary behaviour inside Gaza. Bibi and his ultra Zionist Eretz Yisrael (Greater Israel, the hyper Zionist desire to expand Israel to its biblical (very dodgy biblical interpretations btw) maxium size, into multiple other nations surrounding it, including ALL of Lebanon (madness), a majority of Syria (madness), parts of Kuwait (good luck with that!), parts of Saudi Arabia (good luck with that!), parts of Turkey (good luck with that!), ALL of Jordan (madness), massive parts of Iraq (good luck with that!), a big chunk of Egypt (good luck with that!), and a wee sliver of Iran, LOLOLOL) base of religio-fascists thugs want it ALL, Gaza AND the West Bank, and then to expel the Palestinians living in Israel proper.
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Stats of Morgan Rogers Stats of Kenan Yildiz
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buy them all! buy every AMF/LWer I rate! (not Garnacho though, as I do NOT rate him at all) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL 🤪
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Simple question for all: Let's say we can instantly have any one of the following 4, price is not an issue, and all agree salary terms. Would you rather have: (A) Morgan Rogers (B) Xavi Simons (C) Rodrygo (D) Kenan Yildiz TIA 👈🏽
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this a pretty comprehensive list of all RIGHT-FOOTED CBs out there who are even remotely (some barely) available in order of valuation my choices in bold Bremer (IF fully recovered) Ousmane Diomande Marc Guéhi Ilya Zabarnyi (IF PSG fuck it up) Giorgio Scalvini (IF fully recovered) Edmond Tapsoba Ronald Araujo Yann Bisseck Nikola Milenković Marquinhos António Silva Tomás Araújo Mario Gila Isak Hien Joel Ordóñez Pietro Comuzzo Wilfried Singo Josip Sutalo Mohamed Simakan Chrislain Matsima Koni De Winter Finn Jeltsch Ryan Flamingo José María Giménez Antonio Rüdiger Giovanni Leoni Malick Thiaw Gianluca Mancini Milan Škriniar Merih Demiral Kevin Lomónaco Amir Rrahmani Martin Vitík Nnamdi Collins