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If this is true, everyone involved needs to be sacked. VAR needs to be shut down for the rest if the year and sorted the fuck out.

CIES Football Observatory n°273 - 11/11/2019 Values Coutinho leads the table for most expensive players on loan https://football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2019/wp273/en/ Issue number 273 of Weekly Post presents the top 50 transfer values for players currently on loan in big-5 league teams. At the head of the table is Philippe Coutinho. However, the price for the Brazilian as estimated by the CIES Football Observatory algorithm (€96.5M) is lower than the option to buy negotiated between Bayern and Barcelona (€120M) . Four other players on loan have an estimated value greater than €50M: Dani Ceballos, Martin Ödegaard, Harry Wilson and Mauro Icardi. While there is in principle no option to buy for the three former players, Paris St-Germain can sign Mauro Icardi for €70M. This is currently a relatively high fee, but it could be no more the case if the Argentinean goes on playing and scoring as he managed to do in October. With regard to Stefano Sensi and Duván Zapata, the levels of their options to buy are already significantly lower than the estimated values. Inter and Atalanta will probably not hesitate to exercise them. More information on the exclusive CIES Football Observatory approach to assess on a scientific basis the transfer value of professional footballers is available here. Highest transfer values Players on loan in big-5 league teams (11/11/2019)

They are trying to gaslight Alonso offers fuckall overall, and he has burnt like toast in the air so many times Not just on set pieces either. He is a systemic weak point on the squad.

lol there is zero OTT from my end you are the one who magically made over 200 million quid disappear perhaps you should try banking or not

you are hopeless goodbye

it is madness to say that monies gained from sales cannot be included because they were not spent I never said you put in Kovacic twice, n clue how you thought that I addressed very single objection you put up and my £500m at a minimum number still stands it is not based on anything but sales, loans and buys the only reason I did not put in Kovacic was that i do not consider a £22m net spend figure (once loans are included) for two windows to be a normal two windows and I just closed the books on that (and did NOT double dip by initially including the loan revenue at all) the lack of spending AND the monies from the sales and loans all carry over to summer 2020 in terms of overall fiscal play and the lack of player influx lets say we DO NOTHING but sell in winter 2020, summer 2020, and winter 2021 we buy NO players in those 3 windows (winter 2020 we are banned anyway, more than likely) let's make it even MORE lets say we sell Kante for £120m in summer 2020 and still buy NO players at that point, I would argue we would have well over £ SIX HUNDRED million in the kitty (as we added 120m from Kante) are you going to argue that we then have no money for summer 2021 (as all the sales, or the vast majority of them) happened before summer 2021?

I blame them for the £65m Barca turndown in summer of 2018. All offers since have been clubs taking the piss, and even if we get absolutely ZERO for him, we still have at least £500m in the kitty (and that includes subtracting Kovacic's fee) as I have spent a long time now documenting on another thread.

It is simple, I am including the monies gained from the sales I listed and writing off the two windows were were banned, with only Kovacic coming in via a loophole. A £40m net spend is nothing out of the ordinary for the club (especially for two windows, and we had a net £125m spend the year before to really show the decrease)), and if we had not been banned it would have been higher. My numbers are 100% legit. As sated even if we get ZERO for the 2020 contract expiring player, we still have over £500m in the kitty, monies that were built up since the summer of 2019. Also, I did NOT even include all the loan fees we are pulling in, so that really tips the balance even more in my favour. BUT Lets go ahead and pull Kovacic's £40m from the kitty, BUT we then add back in the £18m in cumulative loan fees we are getting for all the loanees, so a net minus £22m outflow. Subtract that from the £545m number (assuming we get the cash I estimated for Giroud and Pedro, and also ZERO on all the others (which is not a sure thing but I will put it at zero for arguments sake) and is still leaves £523m and even if we only get £5m a piece for Giroud and Pedro, (and again, zero on all the rest) it leaves £513m. Even under the worst case scenario (ZERO of all, even Giroud and Pedro and Willian, etc) it still leaves $503m in the kitty (and again, that INCLUDES the spend on Kovacic for the year before) Plus do not forget I already shorted us £6m to 8m (depending on the FOREX euros to GBP rate) on the actually strike price for Bakayoko, so in theory you can add that back to kitty (but I prefer to be realistic). My numbers are completely legit, sorry Yours are not, you pull out £200m in total sales (the bloody quid doesn't vanish because it wasn't spent) revenue and then try, at the same time to foist Kovacic back onto the the tab, (which, in your reasoning, means that a net 22m total spend for TWO windows is normal for CFC) But even doing all that it still is £503m at a minimum (in a truly worst case) that we have. and that includes a lot of pure zeroed-out losses of revenue (including Willian).

No, and I will go player by player. You made numerous and large errors number one, I am talking about the cash we will have, and I am NOT going back to previous years where business has already been completed and the books closed (the only outlay from last year was Kovacic, so a £40m net spend for summer 2019 is hardly backbreaking) I am trying to keep this as clean as possible in terms of revenue on hand, and a 40m pound window last summer is clearly within the accepted boundaries of the club spending in a summer window, so I am closing the books on all previous windows, as if there were no bans we would have spent far more anyway, and that money carries forward in my accounting method. You cannot go back to 2017 and 2018 and try and unskew spending then, as the club was not under ban then and the did what they did (foolishly I think).I we go that route, we could go back to the entire time Abramovich has owned the club and use outlays versus intakes to justify anything, whether positive or negative. The monies are the monies, and I am only dealing withe fiscal year starting with summer 2020 and on (unless we get the January 2020 ban over turned, which effects nothing in terms of revenues from sales anyway.) I could even do it your way (put the sales from last year in and pull out Kovacic's costs), and it still leaves over 500m in the transfer kitty. I did not do that because I refuse to accept that 40m total spent on 2 windows is out of the ordinary, when it is staggering low given our history. that all said you pulled Eden and his £135m off the list you pulled £9m Ola Aina off the list, and he WAS sold already you pulled £8m Luiz off the list, sold already you pulled £8m Hector (he is sold in January, done deal) you pulled £5m Omeruo, who was sold already you pulled £13m Mario Pašalić off the list, who Atlanta have already said they will exercise his buy option in 2020 you pulled £3m Jay Dasilva who already was sold you pulled of £4m Kasey Palmer already sold Pedro and Groud are in demand for a January sale, many clubs want them and I estimate 10m for each,: If a little less, well chalk that off to the 50m wiggle room I gave when I cam up with the range of 538m to 588m. I see no reason to not sell them, they barely play now and we can cover for them. Other than the FA Cup, we only have a few CL games left other than the league itself (we are out of the EFL cup) unless we finish 3rd in the CL group and drop down to the EL. Jake-Clarke Salter is under contract until summer 2022 and £8m for him is hardly a stretch. https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2019/07/24/new-contract-and-loan-for-clarke-salter £5m Lucas Piazón is under contract until 2022 (not 2021 as you said) and I think Rio Ave will buy him, he is finally healthy and is playing wel there in his last few games, maybe for a little less than 5m, but now we are down into a very small difference in price Marco van Ginkel has expressed interest in renewing and then being sold (as a favour to the club for dealing with his massive injuries) IF he is healthy he is easily worth 8m, he was a monster for PSV his last healthy season there (captained them as a loan player and lead them to a title) He is still only 26, so not a 30/31yo and out player As long as Drinkwater gets healthy, I see no reason why we cannot get 10 or 12m for him, and if we need to partially pay his wages, so be it. His health is the key, and how he performs the rest of thsi season. We never should have purchased him, but he is a great player for a midlevel EPL club, far better than 30 or more CMF's now on rosters across the EPL.. Monaco has a £36m (it was £38m but the pound is stronger now) option to buy Bakayoko, but I think we will lower that and finally get rid of him, thus my £30m price £25m Willian (if we renew him and sell) THIS one I do concede may not happen (I think we will renew him) and was a big part of my 50m wiggle room £10m Kenedy (He is playing well at Getafe, and I still think we renew him again, he is only 23 years old, and is NOT a poor player) I think we renew and sell him. £5m Charly Musonda is under contract until 2022 and I fully believe we get around this amount of cash for him lets say, finally, for arguments sake that the 2020 contract expiry players ALL leave on frees so subtract (from my £588m fully itemised list) £25m Willian (if we renew him and sell) £10m Kenedy £8m Marco van Ginkel (when fully fit) £10m Pedro (we will get close to thsi if we sell in January, but lets say zero for this) £10m Giroud (same as Pedro) total £63m that still leaves £525m in the kitty, and removes most uncertainty in terms of final figures (and IF we do get around £10m a piece for Pedro and Giroud, we are back up to £545m, which is well within my pre-stated margin of error) Conclusion: I 100% stand by my post and you are over £200m off with your £300m figure

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next season Victimpool as their RW backup sorted as Harry Wilson comes back from loan, although they are sorta fucked now, as Klopp has basically semi-kicked Xherdan Shaqiri off the first team squad they do need a backup LW , badly IMHO, Origi is a joke there and a CB to replace Lovren and a backup LB (they are laodded at RB, 4 deep if you cont Gomez (who could play CB so maybe they do not buy another CB, but I would not roll that dice) Clyne and Ki-Jana Hoever AMF (maybe, as OX is certainly quality when healthy) and better backup striker is about it (again, Origi is not top quality IMHO) and a CMF to replace the 34yo (and 35yo in middle of next season) Milner they have a lot of youngsters too, so they should be even stronger next year, eeeek

you are so so shorting TAA did you see that pass to start off the 2nd goal? Reece may get there there someday, but he only has a few games at top flight TAA is the best RB in the world now that Kimmich has been switched to DMF

Mark Bullingham cupping Klopp's in his sweaty little hands

that VAR assfuck wrecked this game more than likely, for Shitty it should be 2 2 now

IF they had won the CS against shitty they could have been on track for the worlds first Septuple (and in the same season to boot) CS (lost on pens to Shitty, so it was instantly killed off) UEFA Super Cup (grrrrr, we lost on pens) FWCC (they are the clear favourites) EFL Cup FA Cup EPL CL plus might go undefeated in the league

I wanted NO part of him, no no no no

now the presenters are going into full suck the scouse cock wankfest mode

£112m worth of fullbacks (just for the two) sitting on the bench for shitty in Mendy and Cancelo lol Pep Mendy surely must be done there they are both healthy, and that back 4 on the pitch is HORRID Walker is only decent player and his ass needs to be at CB Stones is tragic, Fernandinho is a 34yo (35 in the spring) DMF playing at CB against the best front 3 in the world, Angeliño is Alonso poor (and a dwarf) lolol

3 nil Mane fucking Angeliño is SHIT Henderson smoked him like a blunt

yes, Xabi Alonso nil 1

Longest sequence of unbeaten home matches in the Premier League: 86, 20 March 2004 – 26 October 2008. Over 4 and a half years

hell yes, that 86 game streak at SB is INSANE

Mummy, what is the diameter of the galaxy? Well daughter, it is less than the difference in quality between Alonso and Robertson at LB.

The last time Liverpool lost a game at home in the Premier League was April 23, 2017 let that sink in Trump had only been the yank president for 3 months we were still 3 weeks away from clinching the title under Conte

only thing that can derail the dippers is injuries, as their have fuckall for overall depth