Gilvorak

I don't get the Azpi experiment anymore. All it's doing is making our best player less influential. Why revert back to that crap after they linked up well against Stoke? And why must Ramires play every single game? There was no need for both him and Mikel to start today, it's only West Ham not City away.

Shit team selection by Jose could end up costing us. Get Cole, Lampard and Schurrle on and lets win this.

No idea why one of Matic or Lampard didn't start tonight.

Spurs are so fucking useless. The one time you want them to get a result they fold.

Can't stand Tony Gale. One of the most clueless berks you'll ever hear. Had to mute my TV..

OOOOO unlucky

Oscar really needs to improve his passing. Eto'o was in there.

I'm hoping he's resting Cole for City away. Azpi at LB is utter shit 1/2 games aside.

I think Eden has shown some incredible pieces of vision in his career but he doesn't do it consistently. Oscar on the other hand has yet to show the level of playmaking for us.

We should take a punt on Mirallas. He's quality.

Let's be honest. He won't make it here sadly.

What are you on about? Hazard makes brilliant passes all the time, even stats back that up. He's created more chances than any other player in the League this season. Oscar simply doesn't have Hazard's vision yet, stop blaming everything on our strikers. It's getting beyond pathetic now.

Good finish by Sturridge. What a player.

Holy shit! What a pass by Sturridge there. Unreal technique, vision and skill.

Shaw's first ever assist. What a time for it to come.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a7-xsmCEdU Watch the highlights yourself. He was at fault for Ranger's goal but the remaining 3 (Ryan Taylor FK, Paul Ferreira error, Bruma losing Ameobi on a set piece assignment) were hardly his fault. Besides we were down to 9 men for the majority of that game and were only a Ferreira shot that hit the post away from winning it.

http://www.cockneylatic.co.uk/fourm/5-cockney-latic-main-forum/76176-van-aanholt?limitstart=0 Quick google search and it looks like Wigan fans rated him but he had a personal falling out with Martinez. Nevermind the fact that this was 3 years ago while he was still only 20.

Jesus, he's still only 20. Still seems like he made his debut ages ago.

What a flawed way of thinking. Van Aanholt isn't established in a Top League because he had Ashley Cole, Ryan Bertrand (who played in a CL final) and the £18m man Zhirkov in front of him not to mention the relentless managerial instability at the club. Since Carlo (who rated him left) AVB, Rafa Benitez & Jose have all been our managers at one point or another. Regardless of the League he's playing in what's the undeniable truth is that PVA is extremely gifted offensively. More than Cole, Shaw, Bertrand etc. We won't know about his defense until he's tested here. Think this was his debut. I distinctly remember him tearing Newcastle apart that season. Matic suffered a similar fate yet 3 years later he's worth £20m+.

Only on TalkChelsea is 23 old. Even if we don't bring him back next season PVA will be a beast elsewhere. Love that guys style of play.

Blame MOTD/the media for that, when you're constantly being told how Chelsea were wrong to loan you out week after week it's inevitable the arrogance will come creeping in.

The way people constantly denounce players like PVA, Bertrand and Thorgan Hazard on here yet habitually back the likes of McEachran and Chalobah baffles me. PVA is quality. He's quite clearly an offensive juggernaut and miles better than Shaw on that end as well as blessed with exceptional athleticism and pace. His defending is inconsistent but the same could be said of Marcelo and Ashley Cole before Mourinho. Real clubs at least attempt to develop and groom their youth. Shaw is good but he's getting overrated on here because of his childhood team. I think Bertrand is the better defender.

Because PVA didn't do extremely well in the Championship for Newcastle, isn't an International and didn't have some decent performances for us a couple of seasons ago.

YouTube would take it down in an instant and your account would get banned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upJYu_z9NhQ