Blue_Fox_

we won the league 8 competitive matches ago, not 11 years ago ffs

Shit is going to get real now!

I might agree that he could've played the last 3 matches last season and in preseason this year, that was the absolutely right time for him, but right now, the team as a whole isn't the right platform for him. Who will he have behind him in a n. 10 position? First blood in RLC and fix the defence, then blood in Musonda. Also, he wouldn't waltz in the first XI no matter how talented he is, he'd make the bench first.

Right now i'd like to see RLC first, this isn't Musonda time at all.

Why are you always so angry? Dude chill down, it's a forum, you don't have to prove yourself to anyone. Moses would be a nice option to have, but we already have Hazard/Willian/Pedro/Traoré/Kenedy wingers is the least of our worries.

You're spot on, and i agree with you, because it's a realistic view of how things are at the moment, i said in my previous wall of text that for the whole team to act so disinterested it can't be only the manager's fault, it's a mixture of many things, to name a few: -Post season and pre season were a waste of time, we traveled half the world too soon and too late in the summer. -JT and Ivanovic played 38 games last season, they're spent and fatigued even now from last season. -The likes of Fabregas and Hazard seems satisfied and can't be arsed to show themselves on the pitch. Many other things, we probably don't even have any idea of what they are, unless we'd be there to see with our own eyes how life is behind the scenes. But do you honestly believe that the players and manager will perform like this for the whole season? I don't, it's an absurde thought for me. That's why for many of us holding responsible only the manager is absurd, he is certainly responsible for many things, but all of them? Calling for his head after 5 games after a double winning season is moronic. I do get it that you and many others don't like him, he's not a character that everyone will love, but like it or not he's our current manager, so maybe a bit of backing him wouldn't be that bad. If anything as you correctly pointed out if we'd sack the manager we'd have to sack half of our team because they can't be arsed to put a decent performance.

at least we're going to rip the championship a new one next year!

It's not about having a different opinion than you or anyone else, it's about the huuuuuuggggeeee overreaction from everyone. It's like people are happy to see our team fail and they're bathing in their own perceived misery. I read the same 4-5 posts in this thread and others in the last few days, it's going in circles from days now. Meh, Hazard is not performing and yet i don't see anyone calling for his head. And no, this post is not aimed only at you, so you can keep the nationality stereotypes out of it, unlike the last time we had an exchange of "opinions"

At the moment we won't even make it mid table but i think it impossible that we'll play this level of football for the whole season, we certainly have the players and manager to play better football and have a decent win streak somewhere during this season. I don't think we're going to finish outside top 4 because we have quality playrs that sooner or later will show up on the pitch, not just because we're chelsea.

I would not be so sure nowadays i'll cross my fingers

I wanted to read the article, then i saw it's the dailymail......

this thread is pure gold looking forward to the "next poor touches summary" to prove how much Costa is shit

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/9/13/9318969/do-we-blame-individuals-or-chelsea-as-a-team

Fickle cunt?

Just let it go let them believe Costa is shit. However, when we'll be back on form and he'll start banging goals for fun i don't want to see them writing how good he is.

Will quote you back if we lose

How agree to this, Cech is an absolutely fantastic keeper.

Touched a lot of nerves here....i will ignore many people saying "we were here before you " or "don't tell us what to do, what's wrong with milan" because they make no sense to me and they really don't show they're here "from a long time" I'll answer to you, because you actually make good points, to which i agree i completely agree on the, stick with the same starting eleven, that is pretty much moronic, and i would like as much as the next man to see Ivanovic dropped, and by dropped i mean nowhere near the bench also, because he's just unwatchable right now. Fabregas? The policy of giving him trust isn't working right now, so bench him finally. Give a chance to RLC that you have paraded last year like an exotic specimen, give him time already, he might bring us good things on the long run. However i want to note another few things about this, as many people have surely noted, all of our starting eleven isn't performing, arguably only Begovic and Zouma are performing consistently on a good level, so what he's supposed to do with the likes of Matic, Hazard,Terry? They're not performing as well, take away Matic and Hazard and who you replace them with? Mikel and Kenedy? As much as i like Kenedy and Traoré they're not ready to be starters just about now. So i think it's fair to say he's being partially let down from hiw own players. Another thing i don't like about Mourinho? His fetish for Falcao? Where on earth is Remy? Why he's not playing him? As many good people who criticize him with good arguments there is no meritocracy right about now, and that is infuriating. I also agree with the many good people who say that we don't have a philosophy right now, to that, i cannot give an answer because is beyond comprehensible. This brings me to the next point in my reasoning, for the whole team to play so badly, we cannot and we should not give all the blame on the manager, i've never seen something like this in a football team, is a total collapse, even from the second half of last season where while playing shit we would manage to get a result. Is it possible that the team as a whole as a total lack of balls and a complacency issue? Take a few games from last season as well, Maribor away and PSG home to make two examples, you could see from the kick off that we weren't in the match already, complacency? Anyway, sacking the manager won't bring anything good, the root of the problem isn't in that or in buying new players, only good outcome we can have from this is if we manage to solve the problem with the current set of players and managerial staff, because i'm fairly sure the problem would present itself again with another manager, and then? Would we sack him also? Would we start again with having 2 managers each season? How long can we go on like that before no manager will want to come to us? I'm pretty sure we won't play for the whole season like this(even if we keep José and we won't buy anyone in january), because it's impossible. Also to the guy writing "mamma mia" please keep nationality stereotypes out of this, i don't know you, you don't know me, my thought aren't referred to you in particular as i never quoted your name nor i (think) ever offended you in particular. Thank you very much. The part of "find another club to support" wasn't directed to people who have a "different" opinion, criticism is very good (i've many criticism to do about the club as well) and i very much enjoy exchanging opinions, when the discussion is kept rational and straight. What gets in my head is people who keep banging on the same two or three things, having absolutely nothing positive ever to say about the club (yes we're in a bad form, but come on), with over the top reactions, only positive things i've read from such people are for players who left us in recent years.

ahahahahahaha made my day

Dave-Happy-Dildo-Baba Baba-Happy-Dildo-Dave?

Comparing Diego to Drogba is unfair, for a good stretch of time DD was the best striker around in my opinion. And yes Costa is not bad himself, i'm really happy he's at our club, he's the least of our worries right now.

Wonder what Martinez will sing under the shower after today

Much of the reaction is over the top here. Some people seem to really enjoy our poor form right now so they just can write on a forum "i told you so" Say we appoint Ancelotti, we're talking about a manager who isn't capable to do anything in a crisis time like this, do you lot know when Ancelotti is a good manager? When the previous one built the team for him and the team is already playing good football, other than that he's useless, apparently people forgot really quickly the 2010/11 season as quickly as they forgot that we won the title last season under José. Klopp? What kind of assurance do we have he's going to be a hit? What if he fails? Are we going to go on and appoint and fire managers as soon as the wind goes the wrong direction? People who think that Guardiola of all managers will come here need to wake up, the man despises us with a passion, and for me he's still a manager that isn't as good as people think. Players who play under him hate him, he won the treble with Barca? So did Enrique, i could manage Barca and win the treble. People banging on and on and on about the doctors are forgetting really quickly that Guardiola did the same last season, with a much more respected doctor than Eva, you should really let this go now, because it's becoming boring really quickly, she has boobs, ok we get it, i like boobs also. I honestly think that the "sacking the manager" culture has to stop at this club, Mourinho has his faults and i've very much zero confidence for the next match against Maccabi, not even Arsenal, i'm worried for the Maccabi match, but still, he's our manager, these are the players we have at the moment and let's do what we are supposed to do, and that is support them. If you don't like it so much, go support another club, as many times i don't even think i'm writing to fellow Chelsea supporters.

It's my fault for coming in this thread, not your fault for writing that. I'm sorry.

Should rename the thread to "poor touches thread"