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Jaden

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    Jaden reacted to Pizy in 🇪🇸 Marcos Alonso   
    He hasn't even kicked a ball yet for us and you guys are moaning. 
    Just remember who we currently have at RB. Moving Azpi over there alone would be a huge upgrade and if Alonso can become a consistently good (doesn't even need to be great) LB that can link up with Hazard and put in dangerous crosses our team is much better.
    Wait until he makes a handful of appearances before we start shitting on him.
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    Jaden reacted to MCM4PR3Z in 🇧🇪 Thibaut Courtois   
    People also vote for Trump, so it's normal that the same people call Courtois overrated and DDG the best in the world.
    But still, it's sad for humanity.
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    Jaden reacted to Chelsea Legend 11 in Leon Bailey   
    Lol and I guess John Barnes, England great and Liverpool legend is also someone who you should stop reading about too.
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    Jaden reacted to Stats in Leon Bailey   
    Yeah... I wonder if you would say the same about Sterling who happened to be born in Jamaica
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    Jaden reacted to Kieran. in Leon Bailey   
    That's just not a way you should go about judging talent...
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    Jaden reacted to lito in 🇧🇷 Oscar   
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    Jaden reacted to Cescy in 🇧🇷 Oscar   
    I think 5 out of Oscar's 6 goals in the league have been the opening goals of the game. His assists are usually early in the game too. He's more decisive this season.
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    Ah yes contribution in the prestigious Club World Cup, Europa and against 3rd division Spanish sides. Even looking at your list Oscar fairs well against some of the best players in the world...
    Comparison of Oscar, Isco, James, KDB, Gotze, Koke and Muller in their leagues. Quick let's make a £80m bid for James or Muller for their additional 0.04 or 0.03 respective contributions . If we can't get them, let's replace Oscar with Koke or Isco because... new toys. Forget how they fit our system, with our other players, if they are even an upgrade or opportunity cost.
    Yeah let's be fair to Isco, but not our own player who drops deep regularly and defends way more than most of the people on that list...
    It doesn't matter how much he improves with a few of you on this forum, the goal posts will just keep moving.
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    Jaden reacted to DYC. in 🇧🇷 Oscar   
    According to WhoScored, Oscar played 80 passes at a 85% pass completion rate. Which 12 passes out of 80 didn't reach it's target. You're exaggerating. That said, he did annoy me with his at times wayward passing. But looking at the bigger picture, Oscar did perform well. Any player's job goes further than passing.
    Rating a player's performance is subjective. What's more valuable, a beautiful pass setting up a goal (not directly assisting) or a great tackle dispossessing your opponent. Is a dribble going past two players more valuable than some excellent tracking work preventing runners from going through on goal? Does a goal line clearance trump a goal scored that ends up winning a match? Brilliant movemement vs brilliant passing? What is a passer without a receiver?
    But decisveness is always key. I've seen Cristiano Ronaldo put in ordinary performances, score 2 goals and receive all the plaudits. Meanwhile, players like Modric, Ozil, Alonso would provide a brilliant performance. CR being crowned MOTM is still deserved because goals win games. Top all-round performances don't necessarily win you games. Still, one of the midfielders being awarded MOTM would've been deserved as well.
    What I'm trying to say is, there is no one way of looking at football. Oscar was not my MOTM but saying others are wrong for picking him, or for saying he was quality, is an ignorant statement. Btw, ESPN rated him a 9, he received a 8.9 on WhoScored, 4.5 stars out of 5 on Goal.com, 8.5 from The Daily Mail. So it's not just the posters here like you said.
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    Jaden reacted to kellzfresh in 🇧🇷 Oscar   
    People forget oscar is just 23. Interesting stat from Jake Cohen on twitter.
    Jake Cohen @JakeFCohen
    In Lampard's age 23 season, he had 7 PL goals + assists (5G 2A). In Oscar's age 23 season, he already has 13 PL goals + assists (6G 7A).
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    Jaden reacted to MrExcalibur100 in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    Sifting through past pages, it's the same stuff that has plagued this board for majority of its lifespan. Hazard is never going to satisfy some of us if this continues. A verbose one, yes but needs to be added to the discussion.
    (1) People expecting far too much too soon from Hazard by looking at him through the lens of Ronaldo and Messi. You....just....can't. Every player is different and every career takes different routes. Ronaldo and Messi have been at big clubs their entire careers. They've been playing Champions league since they were 18, making deep runs into the knock-out phases. Hell, both had even won the thing at 23. Hazard on the other hand has only played 2 seasons of Champions league in his ENTIRE career. He's only been in the knock-out phase one time in his career and that was last season were he also got injured as well. The Champions league is the highest level of football and Hazard has been unlucky (for various reasons, club, injuries etc) not to have played a lot in that competition yet. It's no surprise his development as a player is slower than Ronaldo and Messi. This is an incredibly important point.
    There's also the fact that he's spent majority of his career in the French league while Ronaldo and Messi have been in two of the best leagues in the world for all their careers. This again is going to affect development and status as player as the French league doesn't offer the stiffest of opposition, to say the least. Ronaldinho and to a lesser extent, Zidane only showed their full class when they moved to better leagues. Like Jose said, "give him time".
    (2) Overrating players from other clubs and underrating our own. This also applies to other players but especially to Hazard. Case in point, Robben has an outstanding World Cup and all of a sudden, he's the player Hazard should aspire to be. Bale scores in the Champions league final (despite doing nothing all game) and Hazard should be more like Bale. I even read someone put Bale in the same category as Ronaldo and Messi when making this comment. James freaking Rodriguez is amazing for Colombia and Hazard should apply himself more. And on and on and on.
    (3) Criticizing him for being "inconsistent". The opposite is infact the case and the meaning of the world has become lost in football circles . There is a difference between being an inconsistent player (i.e Nani) and having a bad game/not performing at your normal level for a brief period. You can't be inconsistent and be considered a world class player or even a good one. Hazard, for such a young player has been considered a consistent player all through his career. He was certainly far more consistent at 23 than a certain Arjen Robben was. How quickly we forget. The inconsistent label was unfairly thrown at him in his first season in English football by the media hacks. It was his first season at the club, of course he was going to be shaky in his performances. All his achievements for Lille were simply thrown under the bus. Luckily, his performance level last season shut a lot of mouths in the media and we no longer hear a lot of that. But unfortunately, a small minority of forum members still repeat that nonsense.
    (4) Not being a "leader". This apparently is the new one. A 23 year old player in his 3rd season with us is all of a sudden supposed to lead. I wonder why the same isn't demanded from some of his other teammates. And the big games that Hazard did lead in are not spoken of or simply forgotten. Let's forget Man City away and remember Crystal Palace away. Makes sense.
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    Jaden reacted to MrExcalibur100 in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    (1) Hazard goals/assists in the last 3 seasons: Robben goals/assists in the last 3 seasons:
    2011/12 : 20 goals 17 assists 2011/12 : 18 goals 6 assists
    2012/13 : 14 goals 19 assists 2012/13 : 13 goals 10 assists
    2013/14 : 17 goals 9 assists 2013/14 : 24 goals 10 assists
    Total : 51 goals 45 assists Total : 55 goals 26 assists
    Total games : 156 games started Total games : 111 games started
    Infact, according to ESPN, Robben has only scored 20+ goals in a season twice in his ENTIRE career. Or do you think every winger is like Ronaldo (the guy is not even a true winger anymore but that's another topic) can score 50+ goals a season? Or even 20+ goals? At least if you're going to bullshit about Hazard and his numbers comparable to other players, get your facts right before misleading other people with nonsense. Hazard's goals/assist ratio is incredible.
    (2) Yes, I just shudder at the fact that Hazard is not at the level as three of the best players of all time. Can you just imagine the incredulousness of that? How dare he?
    Some of the rubbish that gets posted on this thread (and the threads of some of our other players as well) is incredibly cringeworthy to say the least.
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    Jaden reacted to Special Juan in 🇪🇸 Diego Costa   
    This guy is a fucking beast. He chased everything, annoyed them to fucking bits and scored two very good goals.
    Diego Costa is everything this football club is……Fight, never give in and a winner.
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    Jaden reacted to BenIsLegend in 🇪🇸 Diego Costa   
    Didn't think having a striker would be this good, wow.

    This guy barely speaks English, is new to the league and country but he already seems to get the club.

    We say carefree for a reason, no one fucking likes us and Diego seems to love that. He doesn't give a shit who gets in his way as long as its Chelsea and their fans who go home singing sweet victory.
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