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West Ham is actually playing very good. Compared to how Monchengladbach, Arsenal etc played, they pose a threat to Man City. Let's hope City beat them though.

Mount was incredibly average under Lampard in the November-January period so what is your point? Tell me how good Hazard/Costa/Fabregas were in 15/16 and 17/18 season? Did their form massively drop yes or no? Hazard in particular(plays in Pulisics position) was awful in both seasons because his team was playing very average. So your comparison is invalid. Are we talking about Conte's system roles or Tuchels? You do realise there are major differences don't you? Jorginho and Kovacic have a different roles than Kante and Fabregas, so comparing them doesn't make sense to me, no offense. I agree with the wingbacks, they are tasked to contribute in attack, but again it's not to the extent of the contribution that the attackers have to bring. Hence why I said Werner is the biggest problem, and not the only problem. I don't think you realise that Pulisic had to force his way into the starting XI because Lampard did not rate him. Jesse Marsch, who's the manager of Salzburg said that Lampard did not start Pulisic sooner because of his nationality and not because of his ability. Lampard has had his agendas, and his man management was awful. He even dropped Tomori for Rudiger/Christensen for whatever weird reason. So to use Pulisics situation under Lampard is not the same to be honest. Pulisic should not be in the same situation where he should force himself to earn some minutes, when the players who is ahead him is playing sub-par. The reason why Werner gets some goal contributions is because of the role he has. He is the attacker that is tasked to get in behind and cause havoc with his pace, and thats why he gets more opportunities to score than Giroud. Much like Poulsen who had the same role as Giroud Leipzig(he created chances for Werner), when Werner was actually more clinical than he is now. Giroud was in the World Cup and made Mbappe/Griezmann play much better because of his holdup/linkup play. So the reason why Giroud is not getting as much goal contributions as Werner is because his role is different. He is a better finisher than Werner and we all know that. I just want to see Pulisic in that role, because a fit and an in-form Pulisic has better: ball control, dribbling, link-up play, finishing, movement(compared to current Werner) and passing. By the way I want Werner to succeed and that's why I'm not writing him off to be good in the future. However we are in desperate times and we should not focus on getting a players confidence up when he is underperforming. We should really focus on getting top four and progressing in the CL. Starting Werner in a crucial game might cost us if you look at his form this season. But yeah we can agree to disagree.

First of all, read my post carefully and I clearly said that, all the games you took to show Pulisics horrible form under Lampard was when the whole team was playing garbage. Meanwhile Werner was dropping stinkers in the unbeaten run under Lampard. Here we go again with the assumptions. I'm not saying Werner is to blame for everything, but he is the player that is performing the worst in attack. Tammy is midtable/relegation quality and I've said that before. Giroud when he starts usually scores, so I don't get where the Giroud slander is coming from to be honest. Mounts end product is not good enough and I've said that before. However he would have so many assists if Werner put most of his chances away this season. It's not his fault Werner keeps on missing 1 on 1 chances. Furthermore, let's not get off topic, comparing central midfielders and wingbacks to an attacker is pointless. Werner's job is to score or assist and Jorginho/Kova/Alonso/CHO have many other tasks. Having goal contributions is the least of their concerns. Pulisic had a stinker against Barnsley and he did not help himself, I've already said that. However how does Werner warrant a start after dropping waaaaay more stinkers? The same logic you're using for Chilwell and Alonso is the logic I'm using right now. Chilwell had a stinker against Wolves, does that mean he has to rot on the bench? No! Because Alonso has not even played well recently. The same goes for Werner. Just because Pulisic was an impact coming off the bench last season does not mean that he has to stay on the bench and do the same thing again! Werner is not putting in performances to keep him on the bench, whats so hard to understand about that? We need to rotate, because it does not look like we'll thrive up front at the moment. It's a weird question to ask me whether I'd give Werner shit for having a poor game against Barnsley...... Mate, Werner has been shit 90% of this season so why would I focus on one performance of his? I look at his progression as a whole, and he has not impressed me this season. From what I gathered you have different standards for Pulisic than you have for Werner. One is able to have stinkers almost every game under Tuchel and still be in the line-up and the other should be on the bench after a single bad performance under Tuchel. It's the most mindboggling thing. Ziyech and Havertz were press resistant when they came on. They felt very comfortable on the ball compared to other games this season. Ziyech was moving the ball well, and his pass to Werner should've resulted in something. P.S. yes we can afford to start Pulisic in the next games, especially if Werner has another stinker against Man UTD.

I think it's unfair to mention the games that got Lampard sacked when talking about Pulisic's performance. The whole squad was underperforming, so to look at those stats is irrelevant. Even Thiago Silva was conceding left and right, because we all know the team just had enough of Lampard. Werner was still underperforming when we were on a winning run under Frank. He was missing 1 on 1 chances for fun, yet he still started every single game. Whether you like it or not Werner played wayyyyyy more games than Pulisic this season, and he still has not showed enough even after Tuchel was appointed. All I'm saying is that Werner has played atleast 6 out of the 8 games under Tuchel, and we're still struggling to score goals. I think Werner is a huge reason why we're inefficient up front. A funny thing I realised is that you judge Pulisic's Barnsley game but refuse to acknowledge every single time Werner has a stinker. Why does Pulisic have to put in a worldclass performance after starting just one game, when Werner has been incredibly average most games he's played? Give Pulisic the same run of games Werner has had and judge him based on that. Most players need minutes in order to find their form, and as far as I'm concerned Werner has had way too many minutes compared to Pulisic and still flops. P.S. stop saying players are out of form based on 1 cup game they've played. The whole team was shit that day. Havertz has not even had the chance to prove himself under Tuchel to be honest, and Ziyech looked very good when he came on against Atletico.

"Good game"???? Is this what it has come down to? We are in trouble if people even believe he an alright game, because he was awful. He might come good in the future but for now he has to sit on the bench like any other player that underperforms.

I'm sick of the way fans just accept the fact that Werner is incredibly average and are ok with him starting for us. There needs to be competition everywhere on the pitch. The same way Kante, Chilwell and James got benched is the same way Werner should be benched. He has been below par, and if we can manage to get Pulisic in the same form he was in last season, then I'd rather him start for us. Pulisic in "ok" form still outperforms this current Werner in my opinion.

Werner has had many opportunities to cut inside particularly when Mount passed to him and he made a run on the left side. Another one was when Ziyech passed to him and he ran on the right side. Both times he chose to make a wide run, even BT Sports analysts like Rio etc, noticed that as well. Comparing Ziyech when he has a completely different role does not make sense, because Ziyech never runs in behind and he does not have the pace to do so. Furthermore, I never said he "constantly" has to cut inside. I'm saying that Werner literally never does cut inside. Werners decisionmaking is literally costing us at the moment in my opinion, even more so than Mounts. If we want to progress far in the CL and reach top four than we need to drop Werner on the bench and try Pulisic in that role. How many chances has Werner had to prove himself? And how many times did he shine out of all those chances? Give Pulisic three games atleast to find his form and I'm sure he'll outperform Werner massively, assuming he stays fit.

The latter part was about Werner and the first part was about Mount. That's where the confusion might come from. He needs to cut inside way more, he's going wide too much. Tuchel is here to solve issues, but these things are also down to individual ability. I'd like to see Pulisic in Werner's position and see how he does. Werner has not shown that he should be a starter week in week out for me, we should expect much more from him.

You misunderstood me, I'm saying Mount misses a lot of opportunities to spot Werners runs. On the Ziyech through ball, rewatch the clip and you'll see that he should've run more diagonally to get a shot that isn't from a tight angle. I noticed that every shot Werner takes is from a tight angle because he's afraid to make a proper run towards the middle which is very frustrating. Another thing I noticed is when he is one on one with a defender, he should try to cut inside instead of going out wide and crossing/shooting the ball with his left foot. All the top left wingers/strikers, cut inside and shoot the ball with their right foot. He always seems to go wide instead of cutting inside which is very annoying.

I agree, but he does not help himself as well. Even though there are so many opportunities where Mount could pass to him, when he gets the pass he does not do anything with it. I remember when Ziyech gave him a great through ball but he kept on running in a straight line instead of running towards the box and scoring the goal.

Yeah Pulisic is better everywhere at the moment, his dribbling/finishing/movement is ahead of Werners currently. I really think he'd do much better in that position. Ziyech or Havertz can start instead of Mount because the boy needs to rest at some point.

Havertz and Ziyech looked very good when they came on. I'd like to see one of them start instead of Werner or Mount, because both desperately need a rest. I hope Chilwell starts as well, I can't trust Alonso just yet. Christensen had a superb performance and showed me that he should start over Rudiger to be honest. I think he'd do well with Thiago Silva in a back three. This would be my line-up: Goalkeeper: Mendy Defence: Azpi-Christensen-Silva Midfield: CHO-Kovacic-Kante-Chilwell Attack: Havertz-Giroud-Pulisic

What a performance!!!!! I have no words omg! Giroud will go down as a legend when he leaves this club mark my words!!! All hail Lord GIROUD! The fact that Ziyech, Pulisic and Havertz came on and looked very sharp and good is the icing on top of the cake.

GIROUD!!!!!!!

What is Tuchel waiting for?!

This. Alonso is not up to par as well. I have a feeling Llorente will destroy him at some point.

What has being "lively" brought us? When it comes to clutch moments his decisions are too detrimental to the team. Kai even in bad form has very good passing and decisionmaking. We need him and we might be able to score against Atletico.

His decisionmaking has been aweful though? There has been so many chances where he could've played a through ball to Werner and that pass inside the box should've been a shot. That was a clear goalscoring chance. This is something I've seen a lot from him this season.

There's no reason for Mount to stay on. Tuchel needs to keep the same energy with every single player. A lot of players have been brought off at HT this season.

Havertz has to come on for Mount, I fear he might get a second yellow. His decisionmaking has also not been the best.

Mount's decision making is aweful. One of his biggest weaknesses.

True, however I'll be more worried when James is not in the starting XI next season. Besides, I don't think this system is going to be here next season. We'll probably switch to a 4-2-3-1 eventually, when we have the right players.

Fully agree, Alonso is a cockroach. He somehow survives every manager, it's embarrassing. I feel like, he'll get exposed massively in these next 3 games, I hope I'm wrong though.

Kante has been ineffective, Ziyech has been beyond awful, Havertz just returned from injury, Chilwell has been average as a LWB, CHO→James and Pulisic has also just returned as well. So I understand Tuchels decisions. The only one I would like to change is Chilwell for Alonso. Alonso is a ticking time-bomb, and it's not like he is performing at a very high level.

I personally like the line-up. I'm happy to see CHO start as a RWB instead of James, who does not offer the attacking quality. Giroud and Werner seemed to work good together against Newcastle. I can't complain about anything to be honest.