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FSW is planning to use Ronaldo as ST and Bale as CAM in 4231 formation with James and Isco either side so looks like he will be benched this season unless something changes and maybe they think for £48m(60-65m euros) atm is a very good price that they won't get again if he ends up with like 10 goals by next summer due to this.

Pogba-seems to want to stay at Juve and Juve don't want to sell, but can still be persuaded to leave if the offer is big enough and Juve allow it Veratti-impossible because PSG are known for being bonker buyers themselves so chance of them selling one of their best player is 0, even if we offer 100m for him they might still reject because if he wasn't their player they would probably pay that themselves like they did with Luiz Koke-again 60m release clause and possible to sign if he wants to leave, which he doesn't for now so 0 chance Pogba seems most likely of the 3 impossible deals, the likes of Moutinho, Witsel...etc are more realistic. The likes of Modric are not even available to bid so no point talking about.

Rumors is that he will sign for Arsenal next week and might even attend their game against Liverpool on monday to watch, wtf surely this can't be true? Rumored fee of £48m which is just about right for him, not overpriced imo. Really hope this is bs

Time to go through fifa ut database

Just do 60m+Oscar, surely they can't reject that? that is basically as close to £100m as they are ever going to get. Yep POUNDS and not euros.

getting destroyed by City might have something to do with this...

All the jokes aside anyone actually think this is serious? at 1st I thought it was just some bs from a random twitter account but suddenly it gains momentum today and all these quite detailed talks about it. I hope the Juve manager just comes out tomorrow and either put an end to it or confirms that he might not be 'available' for their game, which will fuels this even further and at least add some substance to it.

Maybe one will not even be here in a week if we sign Pogba or maybe even both if we somehow include both in a deal for him if we were to judge based on last few seasons I would think Willian will win eventually though as Oscar's main asset is goalscoring record but he can't keep it up consistently while Willian is pace and dribbling which he is excellent at most of the time. The workrate of both are equal for me but Willian just edge it thanks to his skill and pace.

The issue with him is that he seems to have stood still for 3 years now, he never really improved that much over the years if at all and that is not good for someone of his potential. I mean Hazard was ok for the 1st year, great in 13-14 and truly got to new level last season, Oscar when he signed was expected to follow a similar path but instead his curve seems to be a straight line instead of a upward one. He is sort of a 'decent' attacking mid but that is about it really, probably will get around 10-20 goals and assists combined every year in a team like Spurs but clearly he won't be able to do that here.

Actually thinking about it since no one seems to give a fuck about FFP anymore let's just do 86m+Cuadrado to completely sweeten the deal. I mean why should we play by the rule when others don't seem to care. Deadline day 45m bid for Stones as well, let's give the middle finger to FFP which City and PSG already seems to have done.

Cuadrado leaving Chelsea on loan and De Gea leaving MU for Real Madrid?

80m+ for Pogba or 25m for Moutinho

Apparently he will demand to leave Monaco if they fail to qualify for the CL which is pretty much certain since they just lost 3-1 in the 1st leg to a good Valencia team. Since we are looking for a CM as well and Pogba seems to be a dream/fantasy and Witsel deal going nowhere, could we make a surprise late push for this guy? Excellent player who excels in counter attacking football when he bossed the Arsenal midfield in their 3-1 win at Emirates and generally an excellent player. Fee also won't be huge I imagine, maybe 20-25m max and doubt he would want a lot in wages either. What do you guys think? Could he become one of our suprise signing if we fail to sign Pogba?

Looks pretty inaccurate list, Ronaldo was £80m, Bale £85m and so on. They seem to subtract 20m from every transfer fee for some reason. Also no players like Cavani, Torres...etc on it even though I am sure they moved for around £50m

Tbf they have always won against West Brom, it is just us that struggle against West Brom every season no matter who is the manager.

It is the same with everyone, Pedro apparently now is 'not that good' anymore according to MU fans on redcafe because they lost out on him. City were 'never interested' in Pogba anyway now it seems that deal is dead and others. Truth is we can pray De Bruyne doesn't bring his Bundesliga form to City or otherwise it would be our own Pogba case.

Even if it is true isn't 120m euros like 86m pounds or so lol, haha yh right we will pay a world record fee for Pogba. At least he could have made it more belivable by saying we offered 50m and Willian or something

Oh I don't mean as in official match fixing like telling the players to go out and lose on purpose or something like that but more like tweaking his tactics so our issues are exposed more clearly. For example anyone can see after the Swansea game how bad Ivanovic was destroyed by a speedy player and usually someone like Mou would move to rectify this straight away, yet a week later he seems to do nothing and as a result the same thing happened again. Also it is weird why we suddenly decided to play the highline in a big game away from home even though I bet Jose knew that would leave Cahill and Terry vulnerable due to their lack of pace, again this could be used to indicate that we desperately need a new CB. This is just 2 of many strange elements I have noticed about us since preseason, Jose knew these issues existed so instead of moving to temporarily fix them with tactics, he chose to let them be exposed further to encourage the board to sign new players. Like I said nothing wrong with this and sometime it is necessary thing to do as we want to be found out early in the season like atm instead of like a few years ago.

With Pedro arriving Cuadrado could have played his last game for us, ironically in one of our worst ever performance in the last decade. Kind of a fitting end to his shitty time here if he was to leave before the window closes. Even if he doesn't I think Jose will give him Malouda treatment and just simply not to select him ever again, forcing him to demand out himself in Jan to get playing time.

They probably did but they didn't think it was THAT SERIOUS hence the relaxed approach in the transfer market. However, Jose made sure they see this more clearly by in my opinion ALTERING or at least tweaking the tactic so these issues are more exposed. All the people you listed I am sure are intelligent people but off the field, not on it so they won't know the issues as well as Jose.

Nope not specific instructions like telling Courtois to get sent off or Ivanovic to let people run past him at will but something more vague than usual that leaves us at a disadvantage. For example he knows that a highline will be exposed badly with Terry and Cahill at the back but still try it at City, then using haf time as the perfect chance to bring on Zouma and basically directly point out Terry's obvious limitations(Stones message). Then he brought on Cuadrado to show how bad he is for everyone to see and again it sort of worked as he basically was at fault for the 3rd goal and he achieves his aim as evident by us signing Pedro 2 days later. Also for someone as intelligent as him he knew that Sterling and City will target Ivanovic on the right side so if he was really serious he probably would have played someone like Zouma in that CDM role to protect Ivan or at least instruct Willian to stay back more, instead he seemingly ignore this completely and as a result we were destroyed on that side. In that book by Diego Torres he talked about how Jose told the Real Madrid players to basically throw the 2nd leg of the 2010-11 semi final with Barcelona by not comitting forward...etc but some players refused to listen. He probably didn't do it with us but I can imagine he knows exactly what he is doing to get the board to sign the players we need. I doubt it is a coincidence that our bad performances for the last month is just purely down to player forms. I mean that Fiorentina game we could easily win 4-0 if we really wanted but the players played like a training match compared to against Sociedad a year ago where we basically finished the game in the 1st 10 mins. Like I said it is too many links to just be coincidence, of course it is not like some master plan or anything but he clearly knows what he has to do to get the players in and if that means playing worse than usual on purpose for a couple of matches then it is worth it. Remember this is the MAN WHO WOULD DO ANYTHING TO WIN. This is not my criticism, I am actually glad he did because we are seemingly getting the players we need thanks to his way.

I don't know it seems to fit in, for example we had all summer to sign Pedro and then just suddenly decide to do it after a bad start. The club thought we were strong enough to go again so only a bad preseason along with worrying official results pushed them to make the required signings. Then Jose saying he will be happy with us not signing anyone else a few weeks ago, then changed it to the tune last week that 'we got moral right to buy'. His tune changes completely since last few weeks, then from Pogba being unaffordable to now rumors of us offering around £60m+ a few players for him. I know most people will go on about blah blah blah conspiracy bs but sometime these things do actually happen in real life. I mean Cuadrado wasn't good enough to even make the bench against Swansea, you honestly think suddenly a week later Jose is so impressed with his ability that he got sent on against City while Remy and Moses will probably have done better? It is a bit of politic behind the scene, happens everywhere and it clearly worked for us this time for the better.

Anyone think Jose intentionally set us up to be exposed at City to make a message to the board about our squad? I know if we really wanted we could have parked the bus way harder like we did in the past and they wouldn't have been able to create so many chances. I am thinking if he did then it is a good thing because I would rather us be found out when the transfer window is still open so we can fix it with signings instead of starting perfectly with a few 5-0 wins and wait until October for the squad weaknesses to be found out like in 2010-11 season. While this might be cynical on Jose's part it is also beneficial for us in the long term.

Money can help anything, even Fabregas joined us after talking shite about Jose last year. Also sometime they take other things into consideration as well such as life in the city, team mates...etc. Pedro might not like Jose personally because of his style/behavior but when you combine that with playing in one of the best team in the world regularly, alongside a couple of your mates like Fabregas, live in one of the best city in the world...etc then it is easy. After all it is not like he got poked in the eye by Jose hehe

We would fucking rob them if that was the case, they aren't that stupid mate. More like 60m+Ramires and Cuadrado. Remember they rejected 80m euros from Barcelona earlier this summer and Ramires/Cuadrado is around 20-25m max at best combined now.