cosmicway

Those who look like they have abstained are not Never Trumpers. A Naver Trumper is a former rep voter who does n't like Trump. The dems if embraced the never Trumpers it did n't work.

You are a leftie type and I 'm not a rightie type. To see the newspapers at WH Smith's today I have to go to the airport. You have Sun - Mail - Express - Star - Telegraph, the demented Toryades. Also Times - Observer rather leaning and BBC is commandeered (previously impartial).

When I visit WH Smith all of the British press is Moggy. You are a leftie type as well and you believe otherwise ??

Those who are against Israel now also support 7/10 every day. But how many are they ? I can understand the commies-near commies everywhere hyping because they are anti-american, anti-nato, anti-eu. But apart from those how many are the anti-israelis ?

A commie then who went up to them. Was it against Panathinaikos or Olympiakos ?

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They did. For the sake of argument I say. This flag is provocation to the Israelis. Stupid Greek pm Simitis made it parade first on the first day of the Olympics of 2004. So the Greek Olympics were boycotted and Athens joined Montreal as the only two cities where the Olympics failed economically (with China and USSR excluded because communist countries don't produce economic results).

Maybe some commies went up to them. Refugees other Arabs in Greece possible but unlikely.

That does n't say who is who. In my experience British media are Mogg owned.

Noni in the second half. Not a bad idea.

The Arsenal goal was a silly nasty nutmeg.

In the UK the Tories-Mogg-Farage own 99.5% of the media. In America I don't know - maybe evens.

22,000 is a small number (even for Greece !).

How many people identify with the Palestinians in America - UK - Europe ? I don't mean having views like mine (if used peaceful methods they would have the pal state now). Those are likely to be the majority. I mean identify with Gaza after the 7/10 events.

I would do that if I was in a city where they are displaying this flag:

Gusto's free header was our best chance and Neto's goal also - it took him one instant when a gap was found. They had several chances and also managed to limit our volume of attack (and it was n't as if we were settling for the draw). Things could have been a little better if Palmer was fully fit.

No win in three derby matches but we managed to climb third on the table. At a rather unmanageable distance to league leaders 'pool though. Things will get better if we manage to avoid the old Chelsea tradition of the Christmas slump.

It's not that he won. He was going to finish thereabouts in any case once the republican party did not split because of J6 and he managed to handle it. Also any attempt by the dems to approach soft never Trump republicans quite clearly never worked. We are researching why so many dems stayed at home. So I don't think it was illegal immigration because that is an old story. I also don't think it was Trump's "money exists" promises, because if you believe that it rather makes you vote Trump, not abstain. It was overwokism. Palestine also, why not ? After all 7/10 was designed to boost Trump (old trick - divide the enemies of Allah - divide the class enemies). Imagine the maximalist scenario. Trump dismantles NATO. The sixth fleet is pulled out of the med. Trump gives the finger to the Europeans, Then Putin takes over. As things stand now Putin has more chances from the south than he has from the north. The north scenario is after Ukraine jump to Finland, Sweden, Poland. But the south scenario is easier (always without NATO) and political excuses can be found. Go for Serbia, Turkey or Greece, Syria, Egypt ...

Palmer affected by the injury.

The question is why. It can't be immigrants. Because I hear about this Mexico story the exact same things from the time I was in nursery school - therefore the dems did n't bother big time. It can be Trump's "money exists" tale but also the dislike of overwokism.

I said it is apparent Harris had a big turnout problem. Vesper said no because the total count is incomplete but it is 95% complete and I accept a downward correction. Harris did not lose 12 million voters that did not go to Trump, i,e. what comes out without the correction, but 8-9 million. That again is huge and reverses the result. The theory those 2020 votes were not real but were pumped in is strange to me. It necessitates USA is a Maduro-Ahmadinejad country - and that it happened right under the eyes of Donald Trump who was president.

NBC 30 minutes ago gave Palmer in the starting lineup. Why have our odds drifted then ? Gunners are now favourites at 2.37 - yesterday they were at 2.60.

Palmer unfit it appears.

Is Trump the equivalent of brexit ? ---------------------------------------- Brexit preceded Trump by six months. Are they exact equivalents or not ? Trump propaganda places a lot of emphasis on illegal immigration and ways of stopping it. This has always been an issue in America. There is the infamous episode of St Louis (the film "voyage of the damned"). Also in the years before the war they enacted many laws making immigration to America illegal. It used to be free for all and that's how America was created, then it was to a big extent limited. But in modern years it's the Mexican border. For us in Europe the Mexican people are the least likely immigrants or illegal immigrants, for them it is virtually the only type. For brexit now brexit propaganda could not talk about illegal immigrants from Europe. There was no such thing. Illegal immigration and refugees from Asia-Africa to everywhere in Europe yes, but that could n't have anything to do with membership of the EU. Brexit propaganda then was based on some other topics: 1st - Sovereignity 2nd - Lack of democracy 3d - Economy (the contributions) 4th - Freedom of movement 1-2-3 are false, cannot stand to even elementary logic. - Sovereignity. There is no loss of sovereignity. The EU in reality is nothing but a pow-wow of chiefs plus a little red carpet. They agree on something, they do it. They don't agree, they don't do it. Also UK dictated most of the agreements now in force (it was n't Greece and it was n't Portugal who dictated !). We like to tear up all the treaties we have signed except the NATO treaty might be a more honest thing to say. - Lack of ... democracy. But are n't all of the nations representatives in Brussels, the commissionaires, people who have been previously elected in their countries ? The euro mps also. More democracy would necessitate Europe to become one state, something the brexiters certainly would n't like ! - The economy. The contributions to the EU budget were too heavy, Britain alone would ... conquer the seas. That backfired hopelessly, no seas have been conquered, no unicorns. - To stop freedom of movement. This is the one and only reason for brexit. To prevent the Europeans from working in the UK as well as the Britons who want to work in Europe. The Europeans are of course advanced nations and no harm could come out free movement but the bigots had it. And as for Britons who want to go abroad, they lied about it. Boris Johnson said in 2016 "the British people will continue to enjoy the freedom of traveling and working in any European country of their choice !". As if that was possible under any sort of brexit !!! I really cannot accept that any Trump lies even compare to the brexit lies. So the two are equivalent in the sense that racism and bigotry played a huge role. The Trump voters had an additional number of secondary reasons to prefer him instead of the democratic candidate, the brexit voters were duped lock stock and barrel.

Is Trump going to take over the UK ? ------------------------------------------ Trump is definitely anti-European. He has already surrendered Ukraine and it was announced. There is an unspoken alliance with Putin, an uneasy alliance like the Molotov-Rimbendrop pact but it's there. How to hurt Europe most effectively ? There is going to be economic war and France - Germany - Italy are the main antagonists of course. Italy despite its right wing government of Giorgia Meloni is a Fiat country and it's difficult to see it as a Trump country. But Trump has to play divide and rule. He already has Hungary and Slovakia. Now he must turn to UK, to Nigel and Badenoch but he will also try to aproach Starmer. He needs the UK as a kind of 51st state. If he does n't conquer UK then his European policy fails. Now what will Putin do ? There is no such thing as international Putinism. With the Soviet Union each and every country of the world had its own Soviet client party. Those parties were not enjoying much success but they were the official representatives, they dreamed of Soviet tanks rolling in their streets one day. Putin on the other hand seems to currently enjoy the support of some individuals in every country and of some small loosely pro-Putin small political parties. In 2015 he was invited by Tsipras-Varoufakis to take over Greece but he said "I 'm not giving a rouble - fix your economic issues with frau Merkel". Putin must learn that no money - no honey. The Americans at their peak knew that of course.