Rom2013

What facts do you want? One of the facts is that he was horrible in the time he was here, you have there one fact... on the other hand he has a great record in a smaller team in Germany. 2 facts. Now tell us where is the big mistake we did?

Yes he is incredible. Ballon d'Or.

He is better in another position... no confidence... a lot of excuses. You can talk about Remy for example that is not in the starting eleven, maybe deserves to play more and still plays well even if he has to play out of position (and Remy playd out of position, Salah didn't). And about other players. You should stop making excuses and realize that he failed and he needs to improve a lot. He is young and he can do it. But based on his performances here he can't be here. THat's the reality.

Or perhaps he is a Europa League player like many others and don't have quality to play for a top team... Perhaps...

I don't know why we were wrong. He is playing well in a worst team than us.. like many of the players that leave big clubs and go to smaller ones. When he plays like that for a top team you can say that maybe he was good enough for us... until than it's just another player doing well in smaller club. You all talk about Kane being a one season player, or Sterling not being good enough for us, or many other players... and now you are overreacting about players that already were here and played lie shit.

ANd that's why Salah was here and played like shit. lol

I'm sorry for that... But yes you can continue the overreaction about players that were shit here and are good now in decent teams.

Like Mata and his increadible number of goals and assists? At least Mata was playing for a top team (even if that top team was rtealy bad)... look at him right now.

If Bale is available we should get him, as simple as that. Sell one of the others except Hazard. We can't say no to a world class player, specially one that garantees you almost 20 goals just in the League.

It would be good if they can make it. More games fot them to play.

You use that "statistics" when it's convenient for your point... Last season according to whoscored in League Oscar was the 11th player in this squad with 7.04. The only players that still are in the team this season with a worst rating are Cech, Mikel and Ake. In that season Oscar was the 6th player in the CHampions League campaign. Our nnumber 10 did 2 assists in the League last season and was on vacations for 4 months. This season he is the 6th in League (and falling) with 7.37 and the 17th in the CHampions League with a rating of 6.78. There are plenty of evidence on that websites that Oscar is not good enough. THe website fororealmadrid.com has a system like that about Real Madrid players and Cristiano Ronaldo is right now behind Isco, Modric, James, Kroos, Varane and Pepe... it's something that has no value at all. At the end of the season no one will come here with the number of assists and goals of Oscar...some months ago he was ok on that but at the end of the season he won't, so you will need to find another one.

Right now we are comparing Oscar with Hazard, COsta and Fabregas... well... Really? DO you think Oscar was better than Fabregas or Costa in the first half of the season? Are you trying to convince us or convince yourself? He was one more player, he was ok at best... when you were here saying how increadible he was... he was doing OK...

Don't know why Oscar needs a rest, he is the player (with Willian) that played less time between our usual starting eleven. Willian 2573 minutesOscar 2589 minutesCosta 2726 minutesAzpi 2738 minutesFabregas 3173 minutesCahill 3229 minutesMatic 3308 minutesIvanovic 3525 minutesHazard 3544 minutesTerry 3570 minutesHe played a good amount of time, but still less 11 complete games than Terry, Hazard or Ivanovic, less 9 complete games than Matic, less 6.5 complete games than Fabregas... and a lot less time than the majority of the players that are normally in the starting eleven of a big club in Europe. Suarez that was suspended for Barcelona for months and coudn't play 3 Champions League games for Barceona and 8 games in League played less 380 minutes (something like 4 complete games) than Oscar with 2200 minutes played. Why the hell does Oscar need a rest?

About Juventus you need to ask people that were saying in the thread of Pogba one year ago that Juventus was an horrible team... there you can argue about Juventus... About Porto yes, he is joking for sure... ANd it's not the only team. This has all to do with the result of Chelsea against PSG... last season they were horrible in your opinion and we ewere fantastic (none of them was right), and this season they are fantastic and we are horrible (and none of them is again right)... in your apinion based on 2 games... the reality shows that we are a lot better than last season, and they are worst based on performances and results all this season. Only one can win the at the last 16 stage, we lost because we played badly and they were better that doesn't mean they are a better team than us... or we were better than them last season. Anyone can see that teams like CHelsea, Juventus, Man City, Man United, PSG, Dortmund are teams similar ion quality and taht's normal because they have also similar resources.

LOL Porto... LOL. Are you joking? About almost all the others... LOL also...

Yes, and he is 10 times the player Oscar is, is a lot more important than Oscar, even today that Fabregas probably did his worst game with us there is no difference between that and the normal display from Oscar. Let's face it.... there is no player as inconsistent as Oscar in this whole team, and is general performences are not good enough I can handle Willian that is not a perfect player but heps defending, he liks up our game perfectly, he is consistent, never has a really bad game... there are other players like that in the team... and we can trust them... We can't trust Oscar not only because on average he is ok at best (and I'm being kind)... but also because in half of the games he is atrocious.

Don't really understand how he doesn't start this game ahead of Oscar. About this game... in 7 minutes in a problematic situation it's difficult. He is not a magnificent football player... but he has a lot of quality... just need some time

Sell him. Thank you.

You can talk also about Hazard today... Nowhere to be seen... if this is supposed to be our star... we are screwed.

It's difficult to play worst than this. Please put Oscar far from this team... we need to pay with 11.

COSTAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well deserved, and the one to blame is Mourinho. We can't lose this... It's comparable to the game against Manchester City...but there we didn't need the win but was bad anyway... today it's unforgivable. 60 minutes+30minutes to kill the game at home aginst 10... and we can't do it because we were too afraid and too conservative. Mourinho needs to change that, or at least prepare a team that can deal with this kind of play and still kill the games at the same time is more conservative. Nothing to say about the players that until now did a magnificent season.

Red card, great. Undeserved.

DOn't really understand what the hell is Oscar doing in the team insted of Willian...

Yes and we can't win with a team that costed less than 30M€... Porto of Mourinho busted that when they won the CHampions League... let's sell all our players and buy players plyers from Paços de Ferreira and União de Leiria. You can always see something to moan about... I can see the Inter of Mourinho and say it's easier to win with players with a lot of experience, I can see Porto and say it's posible to win the CHampions League with a team that cost a lot less than the best player of Madrid at that time (FIgo), it's possible to win with almost all players coming from from la Masia, It's posible to win with the most epansive team in history like Real Madrid last season, it's possible to win with Bradford in Stamford Bridge, it's possible to win with Greece in a Euro... it's possible... Everything it's possible... the probability of that happening it's not the same... It makes no sense to talk about Schalke like they were something increadible when we won 0-5 against them 2 or 3 months ago... I'm sorry. Let's take another example... Shaw is playing like shit for United... so that means all english players are shit and we should't give any chance to any young english player. It's really easy to make conclusions like you do...