Osama bin Laden is dead

[We Hate Scouse 10,286]

It would've been justice if it could be proven Bin Laden was responsible for those attacks, in a trial.

But then he would've revealed all the western politicians he worked with, silly!

[LDN Blue 7,903]

But then he would've revealed all the western politicians he worked with, silly!

Already proven but

Like seriously though, am I the only one who wants proof of his crimes? Especially 9/11.. I mean it's not like the Taliban didn't offer to hand over Bin Laden in '01 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/17/afghanistan.terrorism11

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

So who do you think carried out the 9/11 attacks... shape shifting reptiles?

[We Hate Scouse 10,286]

So who do you think carried out the 9/11 attacks... shape shifting reptiles?

It was obviously George Bush and his cronies (The reptiles) to cause tension in the West so they could freely go to war and steal oil. Who else could've it been!?

[LDN Blue 7,903]

So who do you think carried out the 9/11 attacks... shape shifting reptiles?

I don't know who did it.

But there is no proof it was Bin Laden. Everyone knows the bombers were Saudi. Saudi paid too. Everyone also knows Bin Laden hates Saudi Arabia, hence why he left them.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

<br />I don't know who did it. <br /><br />But there is no <b>proof </b>it was Bin Laden. Everyone knows the bombers were Saudi. Saudi paid too. Everyone also knows Bin Laden hates Saudi Arabia, hence why he left them.<br />

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So what about the videos where he says it in the open that he planned the attacks?

[LDN Blue 7,903]

So what about the videos where he says it in the open that he planned the attacks?

Right, so, he denies for over a year, more than 5 times that he denies any involvement. To multiple news outlets, he tells jounos that he had no knowledge of it & denies any involvement.

Then a tape turns up? A tape which looks nothing like him, which gets mistranslated and gets the rituals wrong? Why also would he leave the tap lying in a house which was ambushed? Usually they're sent to a news network (i.e. Al Jhezeera) like he did after the bombings in Nairobi & Dar Es Salaam and even after the bombings of USS Cole.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

<br />Right, so, he denies for over a year, more than 5 times that he denies any involvement. To multiple news outlets, he tells jounos that he had no knowledge of it &amp; denies any involvement. <br /><br />Then a tape turns up? A tape which looks nothing like him, which gets mistranslated and gets the rituals wrong? Why also would he leave the tap lying in a house which was ambushed? Usually they're sent to a news network (i.e. Al Jhezeera) like he did after the bombings in Nairobi &amp; Dar Es Salaam and even after the bombings of USS Cole.<br />

<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Didn't he deny the 9/11 attacks top stop the invasion of Afghanistan? So if it was a fake video how comes he never had denied it was a fake video? Why did he afterwards keep telling everybody he did it and why did Al-Qaeda keep saying that they did it and he was one of the main leaders in the attack or atleast gave it his blessings?

[Henrique 9,133]

I don't know what you mean by the Balkans thing, please elaborate..

But you can't deny the USA's interference in South America making the social divide worse than ever. They were solely responsible for causing hyper inflation in the entire continent when they over threw each country's leaders and replaced them with their own puppet leaders. This made them plutocracies, keeping the rich - rich & poor even poorer. While still robbing them of their natural resources i.e. Oil.

When I say Hugo Chavez-type leaders. I mean leaders who will stand up for the poor and kick out American interference in their countries. Since Chavez has been in power the poverty gap has reduced enormously! The poverty line has shrunk and the state provides education, medical aid ect. I have heard of Chaez's oppression of opponents so I obviously don't support the man himself, but, I do respect his policies.

It wasn't just the Spanish speaking countries they ruined, look at their treatment of Cuba! It's no wonder people like Che Guevara & Fidel Castro are considered hero in those parts, because once the USA were gone.. Things did improve!

Che Guevara is heroe, becaue he was fighting against the capitalism and the USA who supported all the dictatortships in South America, including in Brazil.

Bush was a bad leader, but you can´t say he must go to jail, thats silly. Osama is a murderer, is a terrorist. Doesnt make sense talk about the bad american leaders right now, we are discussing Bin Laden's death, not if Bush is a bad leader or if he is a tyrant.

Chaves is not a lunatic. He is an astro-man, he say those crazy things for political marketing. Doesn't make any sense talk about Che and Chaves in the same topic about Bin Laden. Osama had a different purpose, he was fighting because he believed that Maomé told him to do so.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Bush was a bad leader, but you can´t say he must go to jail, thats silly. Osama is a murderer, is a terrorist. Doesnt make sense talk about the bad american leaders right now, we are discussing Bin Laden's death, not if Bush is a bad leader or if he is a tyrant.

What's silly about it? He started 2 illegal wars, for reasons that were not only awful, but invalid too. He should be tried for War Crimes at the Hague. But since America haven't "ratified" their membership it's unlikely to happen.

Che Guevara is heroe, becaue he was fighting against the capitalism and the USA who supported all the dictatortships in South America, including in Brazil.

Chaves is not a lunatic. He is an astro-man, he say those crazy things for political marketing. Doesn't make any sense talk about Che and Chaves in the same topic about Bin Laden. Osama had a different purpose, he was fighting because he believed that Maomé told him to do so.

Agree on the rest of this. Though the topic we had diverted to had relevance to Che & Chavez. I was merely making a point of such leaders emerging in the world to stop fanatics like Bin Laden from becoming powerful at all.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Didn't he deny the 9/11 attacks top stop the invasion of Afghanistan? So if it was a fake video how comes he never had denied it was a fake video? Why did he afterwards keep telling everybody he did it and why did Al-Qaeda keep saying that they did it and he was one of the main leaders in the attack or atleast gave it his blessings?

Well, the Taliban before 9/11 offered to hand over Bin Laden to stop the Afghanistan invasion. Providing the USA could prove Bin Laden was responsible for the crimes they wanted to put him on trial for. So why couldn't they provide it?

As for the rest. You make good points. I do question why there was no denying or such. However that video is not legitimate. Anyone who's viewed it can tell you, comparing to other videos and photographs, that was not Bin Laden. However you are right as to why there was never any comeback from the Taliban.

[spuz 143]

Why the hell didn't Obama order Osama be captured alive? Should have tortured him,not given him a quick death.

[harlow 2]

Finally........US found and killed him.......

It took 10 years.

I still remember that I was in Australia and soooooooo scared in 911

[Fulham Broadway 16,858]

All coming out differently now, theres been four different US versions of events. No firefight, wife was not a human shield etc.

End of the day he was rich beardy twat with a bizarre strain of Islam, almost like something he developed as an embarassment to his own privilged background. Good riddance.

However Al Quada is an invention to justify invasion and pillage, and one persons terrorist is anothers freedom fighter. There are probably 200-300 million people in the Middle East and Africa would gladly shoot Bush or Blair in the face. Twice.

[Blueman 57]

First off, welcome!

Secondly, congratulations in ousting Mubarak

& Thirdly, how are things after you've overthrown his regime?

Thanks, now that we have put an end to his dictatorship, we are working on the senate and presedential elections. One of the things I am real happy about is the fact that now any president will have only 2 terms of 4 years each. Finally I assure you that everyone I know doesn't want Egypt to be run by any muslim groups and the military has made it clear that they will surrender the reign of power to a democtratically elected president by the end of the year.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Thanks, now that we have put an end to his dictatorship, we are working on the senate and presedential elections. One of the things I am real happy about is the fact that now any president will have only 2 terms of 4 years each. Finally I assure you that everyone I know doesn't want Egypt to be run by any muslim groups and the military has made it clear that they will surrender the reign of power to a democtratically elected president by the end of the year.

Very good to hear! As soon as you'd got the army onside Egypt was always going to other throw Mubarak! I was happy you guys did it without any help from America or the USA, a real inspiration for all the other repressed countries out there.

But you know, I've heard things in Tunisia are still not that great. Apparently the government they have now is another puppet government which are following the same policies as before, I hope the same won't happen in Egypt

[Blueman 57]

Very good to hear! As soon as you'd got the army onside Egypt was always going to other throw Mubarak! I was happy you guys did it without any help from America or the USA, a real inspiration for all the other repressed countries out there.

But you know, I've heard things in Tunisia are still not that great. Apparently the government they have now is another puppet government which are following the same policies as before, I hope the same won't happen in Egypt

Yeah, I really hope we didn't go through all of this just to get the same policies with different faces this time. However i got my hopes up as we have till november to find a trustworthy president.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Yeah, I really hope we didn't go through all of this just to get the same policies with different faces this time. However i got my hopes up as we have till november to find a trustworthy president.

Hope you do, be sure to give us updates on here about how it goes!