- 25 - 167 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Ollie, I read the whole of your post first of all and read the line, "yes i do have sympathy for the ones who are innocent", but I don't agree that innocent people should have to pay the price for what the government allow fishermen to do to animals as you obviously do. Personally I dont believe in Karma but I thought the whole point of it was that a person's actions (good or bad) will determine his/her destiny. Therefore surely the guilty are the only ones that should perish?If I've misunderstood your post then please correct me, otherwise we should agree to disagree.I agree with most of what you've posted in the time I've been on this forum but I couldn't help myself in responding to, (what I saw as insensitive remarks), during such a tragic event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I do believe in Karma, what goes around, comes around. A famous saying that i believe in and always will.I'm sorry but that's quite shameful. Yes they're wrong for killing innocent animals but this notion of "an eye for an eye" is exactly what's wrong with human society today. Instead of trying to correct this behaviour of killing innocent animals, people like yourself (no offence) seek comfort in seeing those perpetrators being killed themselves. Kind of makes you as bad. Moving on from that..I read about how the nuclear plant scientists are, knowingly, risking their lives to save everyone. The Metro had quotes of how the scientists claimed, they knew they were walking to their deaths, but if it's to save millions more, it's a sacrifice worth making. True martyrs and their efforts should be remembered for a long while! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I can't really add to what i've said though, i don't care much about their disaster. Innocent animals died in the most horrific ways, innocent people died in bad ways. Japan is a brutal country to animals, the tsunami was brutal to the humans. I'm not gonna go running around here saying i'm so sad for the japs and it's such a terrible thing that's happened, they didn't deserve it or think oh maybe i shouldn't say that, i'll just hide away so no1 thinks i'm a cunt. I'm putting out what i think, you can call me all the names possible but this is what i believe and it's exactly the way i'm gonna stay. This isn't a man made disaster like some nutty twat like Raoul Moat, this is a natural disaster which is unstoppable and blameless. Nature struck, it's happened before, it will happen again. The human race is destroying the planet at an unbelievable rate so if something happens to the humans, shame. Get on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 To be perfectly honest, when i see what the Japs do to nature, especially to whales and dolphins, i can actually say that i don't give a shit that the sea got them back. I love animals, i love nature and i respect the planet. I especially think dolphins are the most amazing, human-friendly creatures on the planet and when i read in the paper or see vids or images of them killing dolphins, harmless, fucking dolphins that actually love and interact with us, it puts tears in my eyes and i actually wish for them to get hit by a natural disaster and fuck did they get oneI'm not saying that everyone is guilty and yes i do have sympathy for the ones who are innocent and are decent people but at the end of the day, this earthquake was mother natures way of saying fuck you! They fucked with natures sea life, the sea fucked them. I do believe in Karma, what goes around, comes around. A famous saying that i believe in and always will.This explains why we haven't won the Champions league. Ever seen Roman going seal hunting?He needs to stop or he'll never get his hands on the european cup. (He may have stopped now,I don't know)Jokes aside. It is awful what you explain. I've seen dolphins being friendly with humans then lured to their death,whales and seals battered and electrocuted to death.Can't understand why other countries just turn a blind eye to it. Probably because money isn't involved like with oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 t is awful what you explain. I've seen dolphins being friendly with humans then lured to their death,whales and seals battered and electrocuted to death.Can't understand why other countries just turn a blind eye to it. Probably because money isn't involved like with oil.Yeah, it's kind of like, when the US drop phosphorous bombs in Iraq. Innocent children are lured to the mysterious object which instantly kills them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray. 217 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Abosolutely tragic events. Shameful at the match the other night, supposed to have a minutes silence, all the Chelsea fans fell silent, it was the Copenhagen fans that started shouting out. Disgusted really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 That kind of logic is similar to that supporting the actions of Al Queda. Cheering for 9/11, 7/7, the Madrid train bombings etc. I'm won't claim it's wrong but it really is similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 Abosolutely tragic events. Shameful at the match the other night, supposed to have a minutes silence, all the Chelsea fans fell silent, it was the Copenhagen fans that started shouting out. Disgusted really I was really annoyed at that. The wanka chant after was good but! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Karma is not punishment or retribution but simply an extended expression or consequence of natural acts. Karma means "deed" or "act" and more broadly names the universal principle of cause and effect, action and reaction, that governs all life. The effects experienced are also able to be mitigated by actions and are not necessarily fated. That is to say, a particular action now is not binding to some particular, pre-determined future experience or reaction; it is not a simple, one-to-one correspondence of reward or punishment. Karma is not fate, for humans act with free will creating their own destiny. According to the Vedas, if one sows goodness one will reap goodness; if one sows evil, one will reap evil. Karma refers to the totality of our actions and their concomitant reactions in this and previous lives, all of which determines our future. The conquest of karma lies in intelligent action and dispassionate response. You've interpreted Karma wrongly. The acts of one individual affects his future, not those of others. People who treat animals cruelly will bear the consequences of their actions in their own lives, present or future - this is the rationale if you believe in Karma. There is no connection between whaling and the tsunamis, or Pearl Harbor and the tsunamis, like those ignorant and pig-stupid Americans claimed.Moving on, you've got to admire the way the Japs have handled themselves. Their poise and dignity I admire. Respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 At SB there was a chorus of boo's after the silence and the same at old trafford.So much booing. Surprised me tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
- 25 - 167 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 The crowd were booing the idiots who couldn't keep their mouths shut during the silence Ollie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCFC 45 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Thoughts are with Japan and it's people at such a tragic time.They will bounce back from this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc-meleady 192 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Hit with another quake today, expecting another tsunami too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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