Andy Gray & Richard Keys exposed

[zolayes 14,489]

ABC anybody but Collymore

[We Hate Scouse 10,327]

Praying for it to be Chris Kamara! That would be legendary.

[ChelseaChick 430]

I kinda feel sorry for Richard now that I seen his apology!

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I kinda feel sorry for Richard now that I seen his apology!

I know what you mean. But he chose to resign, no-one called for him to be sacked (I think). Gray had a history of it, and he'd already been warned so his sacking was justified.

[Ollie 4,400]

I think its fucking shit, sky football will never be the same without them whether they lick arsenal and man utd's arse holes out or not. They said it all off camera, that shouldn't matter, it's what they say ON camera that should be broadcast, not sneaky cunts grassing them up for off camera comments.

If anything is 'sexist' it's the fact that they chose a woman just because she's a woman, that is the only reason she got the game. There's thousands of male linesmen in the football league who could run the line at moleneux in the premiership in mens football but no...they chose the woman, like Obama being voted USA president because he's black. Nobody knew who the cunt was and look at him now, he's a proven fucking idiot who has no idea what he's doing. The woman linesman did a decent job in truth, but so could one of those male lino's who have been trying to get a premiership match for years.

I personally think it's a load of fucking shit and millions of people probably had tongue-in-cheek comments about her too, football is dying a miserable death these days. Sacking a guy who has done skys football for 18 years.....

This is the mens football division. Fuck sake, makes me sick.

[zolayes 14,489]

I think its fucking shit, sky football will never be the same without them whether they lick arsenal and man utd's arse holes out or not. They said it all off camera, that shouldn't matter, it's what they say ON camera that should be broadcast, not sneaky cunts grassing them up for off camera comments.

If anything is 'sexist' it's the fact that they chose a woman just because she's a woman, that is the only reason she got the game. There's thousands of male linesmen in the football league who could run the line at moleneux in the premiership in mens football but no...they chose the woman, like Obama being voted USA president because he's black. Nobody knew who the cunt was and look at him now, he's a proven fucking idiot who has no idea what he's doing. The woman linesman did a decent job in truth, but so could one of those male lino's who have been trying to get a premiership match for years.

I personally think it's a load of fucking shit and millions of people probably had tongue-in-cheek comments about her too, football is dying a miserable death these days. Sacking a guy who has done skys football for 18 years.....

This is the mens football division. Fuck sake, makes me sick.

I suggest you read carefully your post and then consider your attitude.

[ChelseaChick 430]

Ooooh Controversial

[Term-X 7,891]

like Obama being voted USA president because he's black. Nobody knew who the cunt was and look at him now, he's a proven fucking idiot who has no idea what he's doing.

Well, that's just Ridiculous.

Whatever you want to say about what he's done, he was always a better option than McCain & Sarah Fucking Palin!

In his first week in office, Barack Obama did the following:

• Froze the salaries for top White House staff members. This is a largely symbolic act, but might be an important one.
• Set a deadline for the closing of Guantanamo Bay. Some of his supporters would say this is a great thing because they believe it operates as something from the Dark Ages. Others believe this characterization to not be true, and that no plan will be put place to determine what to do with the prisoners. Time will tell.
• Fast-tracked the process to apply new fuel standards to 2011 car models AND initiated steps to allow California to set its own standards for auto emissions that are stricter than that of the Federal government. Again, this is a measure that some of his supporters hail as a grand step forward, while his detractors (or flamers) point out that it could provide an additional severe drag on the economy, especially in car manufacturing areas.
• Signed a detailed executive order to ban torture and inhumane treatment of prisoners.
• Asked the military leadership to engage in additional planning necessary to execute a responsible military draw down from Iraq.
• Released the interrogation memos without consulting the Bush staff and/or Bush about it. And they were only partially released some of the information in the memos were not made public.
• Signed an executive order that restored a 30-day time frame for former presidents to review records before they are released. It also eliminated the right for the vice president or family members of former presidents to do the reviews.
• Signed an executive order that requires that appointees sign forms saying that they were not hired because of political affiliations or contributions. This is far from an unbeatable measure, but is an important early step towards cleaning up governmental hiring policies. It is easier to prove someone lied when their signature is right next to the statement in question.
• Signed an order banning gifts from lobbyists and banning anyone from working in an agency they had lobbied in previous years. Promptly made the order toothless by immediately granting a waiver to a former defense lobbyist.
• Lifted a ban on giving federal money to international groups that perform abortions or provide abortion information.
• Granted his first TV interview as president to Al-Arabiya, a channel described as a "voice of moderation" to the Middle East. His supporters call this a very smart move to help angered nations and groups feel a bit less cast aside, and let them know that they need not resort to violence to be made a part of the world discussion. Detractors point out that this is the type of thing Neville Chamberlain would have done, though a TV interview and "the Munch Agreement" are leagues apart.

In his first 7 months in office

• He's done quite a lot actually.
• He has so far passed an economic recovery bill which has met mixed criticism but is slowly progressing. He has passed the AMD Stabilization and Support bill which was tailored to help stabilize and strengthen the United States Military, and has shown improvement within the standard. President Obama has also been working on other proposals, bills, and acts to be passed on topics such as Health Care reform, Education, the Mortgage crisis, the war on Al-Qaeda, and Domestic policy.
• Promised to send additional troops to Afghanistan in March and began the pullout of troops in Iraq.
• Passed the bailout of the auto industry and pressured their management to tow the party line.
• Waffled on sending troops and allowed those serving no suffer from lack of support. (If you had to send 30,000 Americans to a war zone I bet you would hesitate unless I realized lives were at stake and I was in charge)
• Refused to allow open meetings regarding health care reform as promised.
• Passed more tax increases on middle America than any other President.
• Encouraged Cap and trade passage to increase demand of foreign oil and raise the cost of our supply. (How does cap and trade increase demand? (See discussion))
• Promised to make tough decisions regarding the ability to continue paying medicare payments. Cutting $400 billion from their budget.
• Insulted police doing their jobs making the office look foolish. (How? (See discussion)

First Year:

• Sent troops to Afghanistan but pulled troops out of Iraq (What planet? He has nt pulled out of Iraq!) we are now at 115,000 troops as of 2/11/2010! Zero actual draw down.

• Made a more transparent form of Government (almost daily daily Facebook Q&A's with his staff) Has had more closed door meetings then any previous administration. Even his open door committee only has closed door meetings!

• Tried several times to get the Republicans to join him and get bi-partizanship on the destruction of democracy. Republicans did not wish to contribute!

• Passed a stimulus package that is creating no jobs across the country. This bill has given more to the rich then every previous President combined!

• Well on his way to passing the HC bill which will ration health care to most Americans and help less then 12 million. The cost will destroy our children's and grand children's future.

• Managed to have the two worst months for deficit spending ever. (The two Februarys he has been President)

Ooooh Controversial

Retarded is the first thing that strings to mind.

Controversial is way down the list.

[zolayes 14,489]

thanks TX ..I was going to suggest to him that Obama got elected DESPITE being black . And was also wonderring about Ollies grasp of American politics

[Ollie 4,400]

I say what i think, i always have done and i always will. If this causes offence, i don't care and tough. They've been the 2 faces of Sky Sports for nearly 20 years, suddenly a woman randomly gets a game and they make tongue in cheek comments about her OFF CAMERA and they get done for it. Class

[Madmax 9,219]

Umm Ollie ... WTF?

[ChelseaChick 430]

But you can't say its sexism because she got hired....

[zolayes 14,489]

I say what i think, i always have done and i always will. If this causes offence, i don't care and tough. They've been the 2 faces of Sky Sports for nearly 20 years, suddenly a woman randomly gets a game and they make tongue in cheek comments about her OFF CAMERA and they get done for it. Class

its not a single incident ,,we are seeing a long running and deep seated malaise of bullying including sexual . I doubt they would have tried

it on Kelly Dalglish . With regard to the linesman ...she has been officiating for over 11 years so why shouldnt she have been given the game ..

You should care if you cause offence ...its part of being civilised.

[Ollie 4,400]

Maybe not sexism exactly but there will always be comments about a woman linesman so it should've been expected. Hell... Andy Gray has said so many times that he doesn't even know the offside rule but to sack them... come on. They should be appreciated for what they have given football in the last 2 decades. A suspension, like a months wages taken away would suffice. To actually sack Andy Gray, considering Richard Keys was the main person in that audio and the person who has got away with so much is beyond me.

Putting a woman lino in a premiership match is asking for sexist comments whether they are right or wrong.

(i have had a few pints tonight btw, but i can't see myself changing my opinion just because it's what i 'should' say. Bollocks to that and bolllocks to US politics, corrupt shit.

[We Hate Scouse 10,327]

Don't forget the enormous debt America has that he isn't doing anything about, just making worse.

2001 Budget - $1.86 Trillion

2011 Budget - $3.83 Trillion

Great problem solving...

Anyway enough of that.

Andy Grays a fat twat, but everything he said and done regarding sexism is correct and acceptable.

[zolayes 14,489]

Maybe not sexism exactly but there will always be comments about a woman linesman so it should've been expected. Hell... Andy Gray has said so many times that he doesn't even know the offside rule but to sack them... come on. They should be appreciated for what they have given football in the last 2 decades. A suspension, like a months wages taken away would suffice. To actually sack Andy Gray, considering Richard Keys was the main person in that audio and the person who has got away with so much is beyond me.

Putting a woman lino in a premiership match is asking for sexist comments whether they are right or wrong.

(i have had a few pints tonight btw, but i can't see myself changing my opinion just because it's what i 'should' say. Bollocks to that and bolllocks to US politics, corrupt shit.

read it again then in the morning

[Corlett 202]

[Term-X 7,891]

Don't forget the enormous debt America has that he isn't doing anything about, just making worse.

2001 Budget - $1.86 Trillion

2011 Budget - $3.83 Trillion

Great problem solving...

He's hardly "an idiot who has no idea what he's doing"

The same can't be said for McCain & Sarah Palin though.

[We Hate Scouse 10,327]

Yeah good point. He's not an idiot.

He had visited ''57 states with one more to go.''

GENIUS!!!!

Want to carry on with this. PM.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Putting a woman lino in a premiership match is asking for sexist comments whether they are right or wrong.

You know, he's kind of right on this.

But please note I don't mean to suggest that's right or endorse it in any way but what did they expect would happen? That everyone would just accept it and not make any kind of remark?