LDN Blue 7,903 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Nobody knows what went on with him on the eve of the '98 final though. What an absolute shame. He was on fire uptil then and just couldn't play on the night that mattered most. But when one superstar couldn't turn up, another did in Zizou. True legends both.Great justice was done though when Ronaldo scored both in the final 4 years later.Ah I'd forgetten about Zizou! Good call!But yeah, we still will probably never know what happened with him before that final.. Perhaps one day he will enlighten the world - I hated how people slated him in 2006. Yes, he wasn't the same players, but the disrespect was unbearable. Kind of like, how people always talk about Zidane's headbutt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Bastard Krauts.Why would you say that? I love the German team. They're my second Intl team after India ofc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I'm English, that's all i need to say on the matter. Bastard Krauts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 That's racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 (edited) Oh well, get the nazi's to kill me with gas or something amusing (i meant it tongue in cheek anyway, i have nothing against Germans but in Football i hope they lose every time i see them)ANYWAY ON TOPIC... Patrick Kluivert was also someone i loved when he was young. Edited January 15, 2011 by OllieCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampards Bitch 21 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 ZolaLampardTerryHasselbainkFloWiseyTottiCannavaroZola is the best foreign footballer to have graced the English leagues imo. Cantona, Henry, Bergkamp etc cannot beat him sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 ^ Good shout about Batistuta. Really underrated, perhaps because he never won anything.imo, top 5 strikers over the last 2 decades : 1. Ronaldo2. Raul3. Thierry Henry4. Alan Shearer5. Samuel Eto'oI couldn't make a list even if I tried, too many greats and everybody's personal takes on what makes a player a great striker, but that's not a bad list. Raúl wasn't a pure striker though. More a supporting striker like Bergkamp, Cantona, Baggio, Del Piero, Totti etc. Love how you added Eto'o in your list, very underrated striker. The same goes for the Great Alan Shearer, how I loved that man as a kid.But like I said, there are so many greats like Ruud van Nistelrooy (still one of the best finishers around, i would even say the best, Gabriel Batistuta, Pippo Inzaghi, Robbie Fowler, David Trezeguet, George Weah, Jürgen Klinsmann, (young) Michael Owen, (young) Patrick Kluivert, Christian Vieri, Roy Makaay and the list goes on and on.This generation lacks a great great striker although Dzeko has the goods to become one. But that's because like the 'number 10', the pure striker is becoming a lot less important in football and they are starting to fade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 This generation lacks a great great pure striker although Dzeko has the goods to become one. But that's because like the 'number 10', the pure striker is becoming a lot less important in football and are starting to fade.Because our generation is ruined by money. Players come and go so quickly it's hard to establish those legends really.. What a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Because our generation is ruined by money. Players come and go so quickly it's hard to establish those legends really.. What a shame.Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 This generation lacks a great great pure striker although Dzeko has the goods to become one. But that's because like the 'number 10', the pure striker is becoming a lot less important in football and are starting to fade.Very true.There are so many teams now without a proper out and out striker who starts every game. So many look to drop into the space the traditional no 10 used to operate in - ie behind the traditional striker/s. A cross between a 10 and a 9 - a 9 and a half.United has Rooney, we have Anelka, City have Tevez, Barcelona have Villa (who shifts to the left though), Arsenal have RvP.In fact some teams play with a strikerless formation - Roma have done it for years now with Totti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) This Generation has the likes of Eto'o, Ronaldive, Messi, Torres, Villa, Drogba, Kaka, Ronaldinho, Rooney etc so amazing world class players are being produced but they are so arrogant and money orientated it's ridiculous. It's no longer a game for loving your team and standing by them (as a player).I agree tho about strikers, only Eto'o really sticks out in todays times. Edited January 16, 2011 by OllieCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Very true.There are so many teams now without a proper out and out striker who starts every game. So many look to drop into the space the traditional no 10 used to operate in - ie behind the traditional striker/s. A cross between a 10 and a 9 - a 9 and a half.United has Rooney, we have Anelka, City have Tevez, Barcelona have Villa (who shifts to the left though), Arsenal have RvP.In fact some teams play with a strikerless formation - Roma have done it for years now with Totti.Villa starts on the left. Messi plays in the centre in some kind of half '10'/half '9' in and it's incredible how me manages the two roles to such a devistating effect. He's really starting to grow on me in that role.Agree with the rest. But about Roma, Totti really did turn into/played as a true striker for a few years. He really did stay up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Agree with the rest. But about Roma, Totti really did turn into/played as a true striker for a few years. He really did stay up front.He did, but not anymore. Well not too often anyway. With time he's tried to become a trequartista (around 2007 I think, the year after he won the European Golden Ball). I remember how Spalletti shifted Vucinic out to the left with Totti between the opposition's midfield and defence. A 4-5-1-0 perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 This Generation has the likes of Eto'o, Ronaldive, Messi, Torres, Villa, Drogba, Kaka, Ronaldinho, Rooney etc so amazing world class players are being produced but they are so arrogant and money orientated it's ridiculous. It's no longer a game for loving your team and standing by them (as a player).I agree tho about strikers, only Eto'o really sticks out in todays times.Yeah but the previous generation had a crazy amount of absolute brilliant footballers. Even the smaller clubs had world-class players in their teams.He did, but not anymore. Well not too often anyway. With time he's tried to become a trequartista (around 2007 I think, the year after he won the European Golden Ball). I remember how Spalletti shifted Vucinic out to the left with Totti between the opposition's midfield and defence. A 4-5-1-0 perhaps.True. Weird to see Totti not being a regular starter anymore, he even talked about the posibility of leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Yeah but the previous generation had a crazy amount of absolute brilliant footballers. Even the smaller clubs had world-class players in their teams.pre-injury Torres? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 pre-injury Torres?Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Huh?Even the smaller clubs had world-class players in their teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Essien5 33 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 1.Ronaldo2.Lampard3.Raul4.Zidane5.Terry6.Eiður Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatingInfinity 1,472 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Of big famous players it must be Zidane and Zola.He failed at a shitty club like Everton but the man who I loved the most ever must be Tobias Linderoth, when he came here he fought like no other has ever in the club. I especially remember him once while the game was still going standing over our own forward who had yet again made a dumb decision and just screaming him right in the face because he again took a shot instead of passing to what would have been a sure goal. This photo sums up his personality on the pitch fairly well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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