La Liga Thread

[Tomo 21,751]

When have i said Vermalean is one of the best defender around?

Stop putting words in my mouth!

I said he is a good defender and would not mind having him.

Second you are valuing player by player. That is foolish!

They might have great players, as Real Madrid has great players, but do they have team chemistry?

Do they play good?

So as i said, you giving your opinion about Brazil giving a kicking to this Barcelona is laughable to me, but that's your opinion and i will not debated.

The world cup trophy they lifted at the end of it suggest's so.

If they came head to head at their peak Lucio, Cafu and Carlos would handle Pedro, Sanchez and Villa (whichever two are playing) and maybe Messi, could you seriously see Puyol, Pique or whatever makeshift defence they have in handiling a fully fired and on top of his game Fat Ronaldo?

[Guest justin_3d]

The world cup trophy they lifted at the end of it suggest's so.

If they came head to head at their peak Lucio, Cafu and Carlos would handle Pedro, Sanchez and Villa (whichever two are playing) and maybe Messi, could you seriously see Puyol, Pique or whatever makeshift defence they have in handiling a fully fired and on top of his game Fat Ronaldo?

So that squad had amazing player, even England has great player, but that does not mean they play good, right?

Real Madrid galactico, who arguably had one of the best team in the world by the name of player, could they play as good as Barcelona?

Like I said, for me Barcelona is the best team in history. They play the best football i have ever seen and win, which is something other teams have had a hard time to do.

And last, WC is not what it used to be. The last greatest WC IMO was WC 94. After that, the quality has decreased. Now CL is the most important event in the world.

[bababoom 4,478]

I said it before and you miss it!

The reason why they are so way above, is because Real and Barcelona are way ahead then anybody in the world.

Real who came close second to Barcelona, stand toe to toe, with the exception of the first game they played last season.

But in England last season, the best team arguably was United. And that best team was humiliated by Barcelona!

A team that can humiliate United that badly, shows the class there is between both teams.

I'd say united are better than Real, but it's down to opinion. Last season Barcelona humiliated Real Madrid even more, 5-0 if you remember.

Also by your logic, Villarreal are better than Arsenal or Tottenham (because they finished 4th), No i don't think so.

[Guest justin_3d]

I'd say united are better than Real, but it's down to opinion. Last season Barcelona humiliated Real Madrid even more, 5-0 if you remember.

Also by your logic, Villarreal are better than Arsenal or Tottenham (because they finished 4th), No i don't think so.

sigh, what's the point of even replying when you can't read???

Look at what i wrote:

Real who came close second to Barcelona, stand toe to toe, with the exception of the first game they played last season.

[Tomo 21,751]

Are they that far ahead as people make out?

Barca humilated United yes but so did Liverpool at Anfield twice in a row does that make them oneof the best teams ever? Kuyt scored a hat-trick hell even in the previous season David N Gog scored. Look at Barca's away record in the CL its nothing short of a joke and the fact that every season Madrid take Barca to the end proves's the lack of quality in that league, in 2010 Madrid took them too the last day. if we class Barca as the best team ever, this Madrid team will surely have to be considered up there aswell?

Remember our match against them at SB under Hiddink. With a fair ref and Drogba finishing better we would have won 4-1 atleast Barca were battered that night royally and i still believe to this day thats the best ive ever seen of us, had we played like that against Wigan or West Ham we would have got into double figures.

Also look at their front 3 not including Messi who was there for both eras. Henry, Eto'O and Ronaldinho or Villa, Sanchez and Pedro? i know which trio scares me more. Yes they may be the best team in the world but they are not-unbeatable far from it.

They may be a great team but this constant Barca loving is getting very tedious to say the least.

I personally hope and think Madrid will pip them too La Liga this time and bring a end to the they cannot be beaten shit once and for all.

[bababoom 4,478]

sigh, what's the point of even replying when you can't read???

Look at what i wrote:

I did read what you wrote, but your whole argument about Barcelona being MUCH better than Man united is from one match, when apparently they 'humiliated' them. My argument is that (judging by your logic) Man united are better than Real Madrid because they lost 5-0 to Barcelona.

So you cant actually say 'with the exception' of this match or whatever becuase your whole argument is based on one match. So using your logic, why cant i base my argument on one match as well?

[Guest justin_3d]

I did read what you wrote, but your whole argument about Barcelona being MUCH better than Man united is from one match, when apparently they 'humiliated' them. My argument is that (judging by your logic) Man united are better than Real Madrid because they lost 5-0 to Barcelona.

So you cant actually say 'with the exception' of this match or whatever becuase your whole argument is on one match. By your logic, why cant i base my argument on one match as well?

Because Real Madrid then had other matches and proved that one game was not like it was.

While United, it was not the first time, but also two years ago where Barcelona humiliated.

That's two finals!

[Tomo 21,751]

Because Real Madrid then had other matches and proved that one game was not like it was.

While United, it was not the first time, but also two years ago where Barcelona humiliated.

That's two finals!

Because Real Madrid then had other matches and proved that one game was not like it was.

While United, it was not the first time, but also two years ago where Barcelona humiliated.

That's two finals!

Liverpool beat United 2 years in a row at Anfield, ironically 2-0 then 3-1 so im guessing there one of the best teams ever aswel.

[Guest justin_3d]

Liverpool beat United 2 years in a row at Anfield, ironically 2-0 then 3-1 so im guessing there one of the best teams ever aswel.

You are talking about Anfield. Their home.

Of course home court would give them advantage. It's the same when Barcelona goes to Madrid house.

Besides i am also referring to the style of play and winning titles if you forget.

[Guest justin_3d]

Are they that far ahead as people make out?

Barca humilated United yes but so did Liverpool at Anfield twice in a row does that make them oneof the best teams ever? Kuyt scored a hat-trick hell even in the previous season David N Gog scored. Look at Barca's away record in the CL its nothing short of a joke and the fact that every season Madrid take Barca to the end proves's the lack of quality in that league, in 2010 Madrid took them too the last day. if we class Barca as the best team ever, this Madrid team will surely have to be considered up there aswell?

Remember our match against them at SB under Hiddink. With a fair ref and Drogba finishing better we would have won 4-1 atleast Barca were battered that night royally and i still believe to this day thats the best ive ever seen of us, had we played like that against Wigan or West Ham we would have got into double figures.

Also look at their front 3 not including Messi who was there for both eras. Henry, Eto'O and Ronaldinho or Villa, Sanchez and Pedro? i know which trio scares me more. Yes they may be the best team in the world but they are not-unbeatable far from it.

They may be a great team but this constant Barca loving is getting very tedious to say the least.

I personally hope and think Madrid will pip them too La Liga this time and bring a end to the they cannot be beaten shit once and for all.

Barca humiliation does not compare to Liverpool beating of United.

United where completely outplayed! They where chasing shadows the majority of the game.

Barcelona did that twice to United in a final!

And Barca loving is just that. They deserve it because they are the best. So they get all the praise and worship they get.

[bababoom 4,478]

Because Real Madrid then had other matches and proved that one game was not like it was.

While United, it was not the first time, but also two years ago where Barcelona humiliated.

That's two finals!

Yes, but as i said, In the same year ( last year) Barcelona beat Real Madird 2-0 as well.

Also, Real Madrid have more chances to beat Barcelona, while you're still comparing Man united on those two matches.

And by using your logic, didn't Barcelona humiliate Real Madrid 6-2 two year ago as well? i think they did.

Liverpool beat United 2 years in a row at Anfield, ironically 2-0 then 3-1 so im guessing there one of the best teams ever aswel.

I know mate, i totally agree, i don't know why he is basing his arguments on a couple of games.

[Tomo 21,751]

Barca humiliation does not compare to Liverpool beating of United.

United where completely outplayed! They where chasing shadows the majority of the game.

Barcelona did that twice to United in a final!

And Barca loving is just that. They deserve it because they are the best. So they get all the praise and worship they get.

One final they should not have been in because we royally battered them in the semis and got robbed by the ref.

Its pretty worrying that fans of rival teams to Barca and loving them, when Arsenal went unbeaten did you see rival fans bigging them up all the time? no because however great those teams were they are still rivals, same as far as im concerned goes for Barca.

[Guest justin_3d]

Yes, but as i said, In the same year ( last year) Barcelona beat Real Madird 2-0 as well.

Also, Real Madrid have more chances to beat Barcelona, while you're still comparing Man united on those two matches.

And by using your logic, didn't Barcelona humiliate Real Madrid 6-2 two year ago as well? i think they did.

I know mate, i totally agree, i don't know why he is basing his arguments on a couple of games.

And I am also saying it's the form.

It's not like Barcelona of years ago, when Liverpool and Chelsea where able to beat them.

Today these Barcelona is different. They play good football. While their opponent can't do much but defend and counter attack.

Look at the super copa where Barcelona won.

Barcelona won in style. They score goals in style, while Real Madrid got scrappy goals.

I am also attributing their greatness to this!

United can get beat by Chelsea or Liverpool. But it's the manner of the defeat. When Chelsea beat them, there is always a chance for them. SAF always complain and all this stuff. While Barcelona beating, was a total over power of a superior team that even the manager, SAF the greatest manager of the PL said he was beaten soundly by a superior team.

[Guest justin_3d]

One final they should not have been in because we royally battered them in the semis and got robbed by the ref.

Its pretty worrying that fans of rival teams to Barca and loving them, when Arsenal went unbeaten did you see rival fans bigging them up all the time? no because however great those teams were they are still rivals, same as far as im concerned goes for Barca.

I have discuss this a million times before.

The ref. rob Chelsea in the second game, and the ref rob Barcelona in the first game!

And rivals and neutrals love Barcelona, because of the show they put.

People who are full of hate, can't get this.

People who love this sport, would see what a privilege it is to watch this Barcelona, cause have never seen such great game played.

I know for me, i never seen a better team played since i was a live.

[Tomo 21,751]

And I am also saying it's the form.

It's not like Barcelona of years ago, when Liverpool and Chelsea where able to beat them.

Today these Barcelona is different. They play good football. While their opponent can't do much but defend and counter attack.

Look at the super copa where Barcelona won.

Barcelona won in style. They score goals in style, while Real Madrid got scrappy goals.

I am also attributing their greatness to this!

United can get beat by Chelsea or Liverpool. But it's the manner of the defeat. When Chelsea beat them, there is always a chance for them. SAF always complain and all this stuff. While Barcelona beating, was a total over power of a superior team that even the manager, SAF the greatest manager of the PL said he was beaten soundly by a superior team.

So basically your saying there unbeatable? there not and the sooner Madrid pip the title off them and another Hercules come to the Nou Camp to prove it the better.

TBH if Bendtner had better ball control we would not even be having this discussion.