Kajo 176 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Keeping him on the bench all the time doesn't gonna help his confidence. It's 81' and 3-0 for Swansea, Rogers should finally make some subs.e: Rogers made 3 subs in 90' but Josh wasn't among this players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 The way Swansea are playing it would be very difficult for ANYONE to force their way in ... For me they are the TEAM of the season...for both their style of play and their results ... and their Manager must get manager of the year,,,oh thats booked for Arry of course LDN Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I'm furious that Roger didn't bring him on for the last 10 mins. They were 3-0 up, if not then, when? Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I'm furious that Roger didn't bring him on for the last 10 mins. They were 3-0 up, if not then, when?he is managing HIS club as he sees best ,,,and doing an excellent job at it. robdog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Rodgers has abused his links with the club and the player to get himself a backup option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Rodgers has abused his links with the club and the player to get himself a backup option.sorry Jai ,,I dont see your reasoning . Josh was given subs time when he first arrived there and started in a cup game . He has to prove heis worth his place . Kakuta had the same problem before his current spell in Dijon ...If I was Rodgers I wouldn't be starting Josh robdog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 sorry Jai ,,I dont see your reasoning . Josh was given subs time when he first arrived there and started in a cup game . He has to prove heis worth his place . Kakuta had the same problem before his current spell in Dijon ...If I was Rodgers I wouldn't be starting JoshAt the end of the day, from our perspective, our most promising youngster has ended up swapping our bench for Swansea's. After signing there Josh went on record to say that he expects to start most games till the season's end. I don't think he would make such a claim if he wasn't led to believe so by Rodgers. Rodgers would have been the clinching factor for Swansea in getting Josh, there were others like Villa who were interested as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Rogers is under no obligation to play McEachran. Swansea fans have said McEachran hasn't really done much when he's come on and they would be the best to judge at the moment. What's important, for me, is Rogers is helping the boy progress in training. Rogers has Swansea's midfield playing superbly and I can only hope he's teaching McEachran how to play as Allen & co do.. This will be better in the long-term, so let's wait and see? robdog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Why bother sending him out on loan if he's not even going to get game time?! Might as well just let him rot in our reserves!And can't stand some Swansea fans who are behaving like scumbags towards Josh! Madmax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Rogers is under no obligation to play McEachran. Swansea fans have said McEachran hasn't really done much when he's come on and they would be the best to judge at the moment. What's important, for me, is Rogers is helping the boy progress in training. Rogers has Swansea's midfield playing superbly and I can only hope he's teaching McEachran how to play as Allen & co do.. This will be better in the long-term, so let's wait and see?On-pitch minutes > training, isn't that why they're sent on loan? Even assuming that he's training him their way, it's no use to us. Surely keeping him here, training with the Chelsea squad is the more feasible way to ingrain in him what's expected from a Chelsea midfielder, right? I'm not bothered about whether Rodgers is obliged to play him or not, my simple concern is about Josh getting what he was sent out to get - minutes. We complain (rightly so) when PvA and Kakuta don't get any action at Wigan and Fulham, why any different with Josh? zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 On-pitch minutes > training, isn't that why they're sent on loan? Even assuming that he's training him their way, it's no use to us. Surely keeping him here, training with the Chelsea squad is the more feasible way to ingrain in him what's expected forma Chelsea midfielder, right? I'm not bothered about whether Rodgers is obliged to play him or not, my simple concern is about Josh getting what he was sent out to get - minutes. We complain (rightly so) when PvA and Kakuta don't get any action at Wigan and Fulham, why any different with Josh?Perhaps the problem lays with Josh though, as it did with Kakuta.. Or perhaps it's the usual Chelsea-loan-curse "careful what you wish for" is perhaps the moral here. Anyway there's still a while to go till the end of the season, once Swansea are assured of safety maybe we will see more of the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 On-pitch minutes > training, isn't that why they're sent on loan? Even assuming that he's training him their way, it's no use to us. Surely keeping him here, training with the Chelsea squad is the more feasible way to ingrain in him what's expected forma Chelsea midfielder, right? I'm not bothered about whether Rodgers is obliged to play him or not, my simple concern is about Josh getting what he was sent out to get - minutes. We complain (rightly so) when PvA and Kakuta don't get any action at Wigan and Fulham, why any different with Josh?No difference ...I have always said LOANS are a Fucking mistake ....rarely work ... Cue for everyone to shout Bolton and Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Perhaps the problem lays with Josh though, as it did with Kakuta.. Or perhaps it's the usual Chelsea-loan-curse "careful what you wish for" is perhaps the moral here. Anyway there's still a while to go till the end of the season, once Swansea are assured of safety maybe we will see more of the kid.Waiting to see that next week. With 39 points, they are safe in the Premier League. Lets see what Rodgers does with his MF in the last 9 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Anyway there's still a while to go till the end of the season, once Swansea are assured of safety maybe we will see more of the kid.That's what I'm hoping for too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 No difference ...I have always said LOANS are a Fucking mistake ....rarely work ... Cue for everyone to shout Bolton and DannyBut what's the alternative? Where then do they play? The reserve/youth system is a joke as it is, at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 But what's the alternative? Where then do they play? The reserve/youth system is a joke as it is, at the moment.sort out a decent program of games for the reserves ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 The thing that annoys me is that there were loads of clubs that wanted Josh badly. So why did we loan him to Swansea without an agreement on the number of minutes he should play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 The thing that annoys me is that there were loads of clubs that wanted Josh badly. So why did we loan him to Swansea without an agreement on the number of minutes he should play.No club can GUARANTEE playing time ...If they do they are desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 No club can GUARANTEE playing time ...If they do they are desperate.I think we did that with Thibaut. He's a great keeper but there is no way he managed to push sergio assenjo aside that easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I think we did that with Thibaut. He's a great keeper but there is no way he managed to push sergio assenjo aside that easily.Asenjo's had a lot of problems with injury, I don't think you can make a club play a loan player like, I'd be very surprised if any club even agreed to such a clause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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