CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Can't help but feel that people are building incredibly high false hopes and that he's getting loaned out after preseason. I hope I am wrong, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhanaBoy 104 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 yep... you are probably wrong. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 If he impresses in pre season Jose could be convinced to keep him the the team and use him in cup games. Before or fans start going crazy we should remain patient and follow his progress in the pre season and then we'll see.Does he count as homegrown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Can't help but feel that people are building incredibly high false hopes and that he's getting loaned out after preseason. I hope I am wrong, though. He likely will. I don't think we aren't interested in Pedro... it would be stupid to pass up a chance to sign him to give Traore a chance I think. Still needs a bit of developing, he had a good year last season but still obviously another loan would be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 This year we do not have anxiety / obsession to win trophies like last season WHY NOT??We should always be trying to win at all costs. Always be trying to improve the squad. We are a long shot from being anywhere near perfect. I just dont understand why so many of us are content with how we are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 If he impresses in pre season Jose could be convinced to keep him the the team and use him in cup games. Before or fans start going crazy we should remain patient and follow his progress in the pre season and then we'll see.Does he count as homegrown?In FM he does, but I doubt he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 WHY NOT??We should always be trying to win at all costs. Always be trying to improve the squad. We are a long shot from being anywhere near perfect. I just dont understand why so many of us are content with how we are now.I agree with him. Jose had gone 2 years without a trophy, i feel like he was feeling the pressure. Now, while he still wants to win, has more leeway and can afford to take more risks, i.e playing youngsters. Can Bertrand Traoré seize his chance on Chelsea’s pre-season tour? Link. http://metro.co.uk/2015/07/20/can-bertrand-traore-seize-his-chance-on-chelseas-pre-season-tour-5303174/#ixzz3gSiwLb9G-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Maybe Jose wants to bet on Traore as right-winger along this season.For me, I prefer to bet on Traore than sing Pedro Rodriguez.This year we do not have anxiety / obsession to win trophies like last season and maybe we can bet on the youth to regenerate our team.Players like Zouma, Ruben Loftus-Cheek (maybe Stones) and Traore can be our surprise for this season, with Cahill (or John Terry), Ramires (maybe Witsel) and Willian as veteran solution for the matches where Jose prefers to bet on veteran players. The season is long and to fight for every trophy we need to use all our squad.Maybe this preseason is a good time to see how they can or can not play with us. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I agree with him. Jose had gone 2 years without a trophy, i feel like he was feeling the pressure. Now, while he still wants to win, has more leeway and can afford to take more risks, i.e playing youngsters.In a perfect world my friend yes I could agree with you. To not spend a penny, to bring in kids to spend their entire career as a Blue, retire as a Chelsea legend and to be replaced by yet another of our kids, To be self sufficient would be ideal.But unfortunately this is not a perfect world - yet - or maybe never will be.I dont have the faith in starting a kid that doesn't have a hours PL time. It might be ok for 10 minutes on a cold monday night in Stoke but in a top half of the table clash or in Europe it would be crazy. Thats why Mou hasn't done it.I know its a big Catch 22 that they cant get experience without playing but its a very big gamble to play them and I would rather them take it very slowly or we sign a much more complete player than us not compete at the highest level.IF we was a mid table club with no hopes of Europe or winning the PL then yes I agree we should experiment and put in loadsa our academy but we are now a product of our achievments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I think traore is like a new signing and going forward he is a much better fit than pedro for the EPL and chelsea. Let's not forget pedro is quite small and will be mostly used against smaller clubs to provide penetration and not in big games therefore we do not really need him since we found several ways of winning small clubs last season.Mourinho has been looking for a player like traore for the right wing and I think he is happy we have such a player now. You only have to see how much man utd signed memphis depay(£25m?) to really appreciate that we have him. He is younger than depay and was a class act for vitesse a team with less talented players than PSV.Traore has better attributes than most of the wingers we are linked with. He is very strong, tall, skillful, left footed, scores goals and is quite fast. He is built to specification and I think he can play in the very big games as well such as against mancity because he already plays for his national team (burkina faso). To be honest there are not many wingers or forwards that are this complete, he will be a special player for us for a long time and he is ready to compete. I also think we are really strong with him in the team as below. This is another genius buy from mourinho just like drogba.-------Ramires----MaticTraore-----Fabregas----Hazard---------Costa/Falcao------Fabregas---MaticTraore-----Oscar-------Hazard-------Costa/Falcao-------Fabregas----MaticTraore-----Willian-----Hazard---------Costa/Falcao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 WHY NOT??We should always be trying to win at all costs. Always be trying to improve the squad. We are a long shot from being anywhere near perfect. I just dont understand why so many of us are content with how we are now.Hi friend!What I wanted to say is that we do not have the anxiety of last year because we do not carry two years without winning a trophy in the last two seasons. In a team like Chelsea go two years without winning trophies is an eternity.But not having anxiety or obsession does not mean that we do not have the ambition to win every trophy we can. This year we have the ambition to win five trophies and we will try, but without obsessing or have anxiety because that can hurt us. Only ambition of winning. We are not a desperate team.Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Hi friend!What I wanted to say is that we do not have the anxiety of last year because we do not carry two years without winning a trophy in the last two seasons. In a team like Chelsea go two years without winning trophies is an eternity.But not having anxiety or obsession does not mean that we do not have the ambition to win every trophy we can. This year we have the ambition to win five trophies and we will try, but without obsessing or have anxiety because that can hurt us. Only ambition of winning. We are not a desperate team.Regards.I get ya bud - was just playing devils advocate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I think traore is like a new signing and going forward he is a much better fit than pedro for the EPL and chelsea. Let's not forget pedro is quite small and will be mostly used against smaller clubs to provide penetration and not in big games therefore we do not really need him since we found several ways of winning small clubs last season.Mourinho has been looking for a player like traore for the right wing and I think he is happy we have such a player now. You only have to see how much man utd signed memphis depay(£25m?) to really appreciate that we have him. He is younger than depay and was a class act for vitesse a team with less talented players than PSV.Traore has better attributes than most of the wingers we are linked with. He is very strong, tall, skillful, left footed, scores goals and is quite fast. He is built to specification and I think he can play in the very big games as well such as against mancity because he already plays for his national team (burkina faso). To be honest there are not many wingers or forwards that are this complete, he will be a special player for us for a long time and he is ready to compete. I also think we are really strong with him in the team as below. This is another genius buy from mourinho just like drogba.-------Ramires----MaticTraore-----Fabregas----Hazard---------Costa/Falcao------Fabregas---MaticTraore-----Oscar-------Hazard-------Costa/Falcao-------Fabregas----MaticTraore-----Willian-----Hazard---------Costa/FalcaoMourinho didn't buy Traore... He was unofficially under our books for ages before Jose arrived. And why is Costa not our number 1 striker? Why is it between him and Falcao for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Mourinho didn't buy Traore... I don't think he said he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I don't think he said he did I think you should learn how to read smarty pants. This is another genius buy from mourinho just like drogba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Mourinho didn't buy Traore... He was unofficially under our books for ages before Jose arrived.And why is Costa not our number 1 striker? Why is it between him and Falcao for you?Unofficially isn't binding...anyway mourinho gave him his debut and regards him highly or he would be on loan. Costa is undoubtedly first Choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Can't wait to see him play in pre season. Such an exciting player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 The guy has the hair to succed thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I for one think he is better than Salah and Moses. He will definitely be the one to watch this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I for one think he is better than Salah and Moses. He will definitely be the one to watch this season.You must be among a very small minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Can Bertrand Traoré seize his chance on Chelsea’s pre-season tour? Link. http://metro.co.uk/2015/07/20/can-bertrand-traore-seize-his-chance-on-chelseas-pre-season-tour-5303174/#ixzz3gSiwLb9G-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Maybe Jose wants to bet on Traore as right-winger along this season.For me, I prefer to bet on Traore than sing Pedro Rodriguez.This year we do not have anxiety / obsession to win trophies like last season and maybe we can bet on the youth to regenerate our team.Players like Zouma, Ruben Loftus-Cheek (maybe Stones) and Traore can be our surprise for this season, with Cahill (or John Terry), Ramires (maybe Witsel) and Willian as veteran solution for the matches where Jose prefers to bet on veteran players. The season is long and to fight for every trophy we need to use all our squad.Maybe this preseason is a good time to see how they can or can not play with us. Regards.At this point I don't think we have a choice. Its clear to me Chelsea want to start integrating youth and recalling loanees. They can't all just be assets for generating revenue because if that continues we won't have an academy and young promising talents won't come to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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