Gilvorak 3,734 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Your right, they had so much faith in Sterling they splashed out on Coutinho, Alberto, Aspas, Sturridge and got Moses in on loan.He's made 42 appearances for Liverpool over the last 2 years while still only being 18.How many have Josh, Nat and the rest made for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 He's made 42 appearances for Liverpool over the last 2 years while still only being 18.How many have Josh, Nat and the rest made for us?Most of them in the first half of last season when they had hardly no other option's, as soon as Sturridge and Coutinho put pen to paper he was back on the sidelines.So apart from a 6 month spell Liverpool have been just as bad with young players as us in the last decade. I can understand criticism of our youth system because it's left a lot to be desired but Liverpool haven't done much better since the millenium. Duppy Conqueror 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 He's made 42 appearances for Liverpool over the last 2 years while still only being 18.How many have Josh, Nat and the rest made for us?We'd bet on them if we didn't win shit Duppy Conqueror 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah 200 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Watford and Wigan are both reportedly interested in signing him, Wigan are playing in the Europa League this season and Nate could James McCarthy who went to Everton.http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-transfer-news-watford-wigan-2251886 CHOULO19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Watford and Wigan are both reportedly interested in signing him, Wigan are playing in the Europa League this season and Nate could James McCarthy who went to Everton.http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-transfer-news-watford-wigan-2251886Coyle's the manager there now, right? His Bolton played some excellent football at times and were incredibly unlucky to go down. If he keeps Wigan playing in a similar manner that Martinez had them playing, I'd love to see Nate go there; he would learn so much there. I worship Zola, but let's be honest, he's no tactical genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 i dint know there was a youth CL which was starting from this year. dont want him to go on loan now. should stay here and lead us to CL glory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Coyle's the manager there now, right? His Bolton played some excellent football at times and were incredibly unlucky to go down. If he keeps Wigan playing in a similar manner that Martinez had them playing, I'd love to see Nate go there; he would learn so much there. I worship Zola, but let's be honest, he's no tactical genius.Coyle is a terrible manager. No idea why this myth of him being a tactically astute manager who plays eye pleasing football carries on.He would be in better hands with Zola. Wonder if we can send Josh there as well. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Coyle is a terrible manager. No idea why this myth of him being a tactically astute manager who plays eye pleasing football carries on.He would be in better hands with Zola. Wonder if we can send Josh there as well.Coyle's Bolton played some very good football in his first season, that's undeniable. Add to that the fact that Sturridge and Wilshere did extremely well under him and their loans to Bolton were vital to them becoming regulars at better teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 i dint know there was a youth CL which was starting from this year. dont want him to go on loan now. should stay here and lead us to CL glory. Youth CL is basically cause the NextGen series was cancelled due to shortage of funding. Our boys dud well last time around, losing just to Villa in the finals. Expect them to be much better this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Youth CL is basically cause the NextGen series was cancelled due to shortage of funding. Our boys dud well last time around, losing just to Villa in the finals. Expect them to be much better this time around.i know. even our youth players beat barca with 10 men in their own backyard. plus i think its time we kept a few young players at our own academy too, so that they can qualify as academy-trained. right now we have only JT who satifies that criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 i know. even our youth players beat barca with 10 men in their own backyard. plus i think its time we kept a few young players at our own academy too, so that they can qualify as academy-trained. right now we have only JT who satifies that criteria.true , surprising that hasn't been a serious question yet.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 i know. even our youth players beat barca with 10 men in their own backyard. plus i think its time we kept a few young players at our own academy too, so that they can qualify as academy-trained. right now we have only JT who satifies that criteria.true , surprising that hasn't been a serious question yet..Funny you should say that: http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/13372-57-nathan-ake/?p=759242 didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Funny you should say that: http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/13372-57-nathan-ake/?p=759242Hmm never knew that. Were the rules changed in between ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Hmm never knew that. Were the rules changed in between ?I'm too lazy to search it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 I'm too lazy to search it Haha, it's okay. Probably never was , I didn't know much about it anyways . Thanks though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 I'm too lazy to search it Haha, it's okay. Probably never was , I didn't know much about it anyways . Thanks though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Haha, it's okay. Probably never was , I didn't know much about it anyways . Thanks though. i dont think so. the uefa rules have always been a little tougher than PL rules. 8 HG players out of which 4 should be club trained while 4 can be association trained (i was wrong about JT being our only club trained player, bertrand also comes under the same category). i think it was implemented in 08/09. CHOULO19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 i dont think so. the uefa rules have always been a little tougher than PL rules. 8 HG players out of which 4 should be club trained while 4 can be association trained (i was wrong about JT being our only club trained player, bertrand also comes under the same category). i think it was implemented in 08/09.Yeah, that's what I remember as well. And a player should spend at least 3 seasons with the club between the age of 17 and 21 to be considered as "club trained" IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Yeah, that's what I remember as well. And a player should spend at least 3 seasons with the club between the age of 17 and 21 to be considered as "club trained" IIRC. ya, thats what i thought too but it does not seem to fit so for bertrand. he was always on loan from 17 to 21, but still makes the cut as club trained. or does it simply mean that the player should be in the clubs' books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 ya, thats what i thought too but it does not seem to fit so for bertrand. he was always on loan from 17 to 21, but still makes the cut as club trained. or does it simply mean that the player should be in the clubs' books.No I don't think so because I remember that one of our youngsters once couldn't be registered for the CL squad because he had spent too much time on loan. Was it PVA? I can't quite remember. Maybe local short term loans (the ones that are usually under 3 months) don't count? I'm sure there is a clear explanation in the CL rules. I'll look them up tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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