Tomo 21,751 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 1 hour ago, DDA said: We didn't get everyone we went for but it felt like we had alot more pulling power before now. The start of Romans Era, the revolution was an exciting prospect for any aspiring footballer. I'm sure players look at how we hire and fire thus resulting in instability in the dressing room,ย then look at what others are doing and would prefer their projects. We attracted the young hungry players , but we never attracted a superstar bang in his prime and we tried (Ronaldinho, Deco, Vieri). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 36 minutes ago, Tomo said: We attracted the young hungry players , but we never attracted a superstar bang in his prime and we tried (Ronaldinho, Deco, Vieri). What we seem to attract are youth team fodder. They see our accademy teams doing well so thats what they want. But they dont wonder what happens after the accademy. Its sad that we never attract the class of player e need even IF we paid out for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 5/12/2018 at 2:46 AM, El P. said: Too good to be true... His football IQ is imposing. Both game dictating, predicting open spaces and positioning himself while defending. He is not the strongest or the fastest, but workrate is there, running is there, and really big footballing brain is there. I think he is good enough to play in midfield two. Hell, even Cesc sometimes played in midfield two, why couldn't this guy? Miles ahead of Cesc. And also, why the hell we have three CB-s if we cannot afford one midfielder like this? (And, as far as I know, he is playing with Hamsik and some other DMF in midfield. You think Hamsik is helping more in defense than Willian or Pedro? Really doubt it.) Hamsik does help more in defence yeah, and Jorginhoย doesn't play with another DMF. Allan is the other guy. Jorginho drops deep in defence to start the build upย for Sarri ball. Think of the role Busquets plays at Barca or Fernandinho at City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 50 minutes ago, Tomo said: We attracted the young hungry players , but we never attracted a superstar bang in his prime and we tried (Ronaldinho, Deco, Vieri). Except for defensive superstars in Maka and Cole, and then there's Sheva. Yes, we know what happened but he scored 26 and 28ย goalsย in his final two seasons for Milan (in 80 games in total,ย which was extremely impressive pre-MessiRonaldo times). It was a mega signing and an extremely expensive one in those times. Even Torres was a superstar in terms of status, although his fitness and form was already waning prior to the transfer. Crespo was aย very big signing as well btw. I agree with what you're trying to say but Chels have definitelyย lost pulling power though.ย And that's because the money they offer simply isn't as impressive as it once was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Tomo said: We attracted the young hungry players , but we never attracted a superstar bang in his prime and we tried (Ronaldinho, Deco, Vieri). Not so much us getting players bang in their prime but more us getting players who were hot on the market like Hazard, Cole, Robben ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 If the recent coaching carousel is any indication this man is our new #1 target for Sarri. City is tempting for him but I have got to assume a top team in the PL with the coach who made him is equally tempting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 4 hours ago, the wes said: ย Who is this clown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 On 18/05/2018 at 8:04 PM, DYC. said: Except for defensive superstars in Maka and Cole, and then there's Sheva. Yes, we know what happened but he scored 26 and 28ย goalsย in his final two seasons for Milan (in 80 games in total,ย which was extremely impressive pre-MessiRonaldo times). It was a mega signing and an extremely expensive one in those times. Even Torres was a superstar in terms of status, although his fitness and form was already waning prior to the transfer. Crespo was aย very big signing as well btw. I agree with what you're trying to say but Chels have definitelyย lost pulling power though.ย And that's because the money they offer simply isn't as impressive as it once was. As is often the case, Shevaโsย stats were misleading.ย Anyone who watched himย at the 2006 World Cup knew he had nothing to offer Chelsea. There were special circumstances involved in his capture, one of which was that no club with a sensible recruitment policy would have spent big-money and big wages on him at that stage of his career. Not a difficultย signing to complete. Inter were prepared to let Crespo go. Contrast their attitude on that deal with their absolute refusal to do business on Vieri at more than twice the price. Look at Hernanโs career and youโll see evidence that clubs were always more enthusiastic about buying him, than they were about keeping him once he was on the books.ย Not a difficultย signing to complete. Nandoโs output in the first part of his Liverpool contract was the only high performing period of his career. I never believed in him even while he was scoring heavily for the scousers.ย The day we bought Nandoย I was deeply depressed at our stupidity. As you imply that was not a difficultย signing to complete. Maka himself said he came toย Chelsea because no club he preferred to join was prepared to pay his fee or his wages.ย Not a difficultย signing to complete. We never had the pulling power to attract genuinely high status players. The ones we were able to sign wereย those whose status was not as high as itย might have seemed. Even then we were forced to overcome the reluctance of even that level of player by wildly overpaying fees and wages. Now that we are no longer doing that we are bound to suffer at the top end of the market but our record of recruiting young talent is not so bad.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share Posted May 25, 2018 I dearly hope we will sign him but I'm not holding my breath. We expected to see an influx of top Italians following The Don. Still waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Napoli reporter claiming Jorginho is in the home stretch with Man City. Will be tough to overtake them even if we announceย Sarri.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 4 hours ago, akgw13 said: Napoli reporter claiming Jorginho is in the home stretch with Man City. Will be tough to overtake them even if we announceย Sarri.ย Iโd say impossible. Iโm afraid weโve manoeuvred ourselves into a place where some players would even accept lesser contracts to play elsewhere rather than join us. It was always like thatย but billions of pounds of spending later things could, and should, have been better. Instead, if anything, it is worse than ever. So what do you do? Stay patient, accept that it will take time to change our image and set off on a long termย plan to establish a new perception of our club. Itโll take a commitment to positive football of quality. Stability would be nice too, but itโs less important than erasing the perception people have of CFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Iโd say impossible. Iโm afraid weโve manoeuvred ourselves into a place where some players would even accept lesser contracts to play elsewhere rather than join us. It was always like thatย but billions of pounds of spending later things could, and should, have been better. Instead, if anything, it is worse than ever. So what do you do? Stay patient, accept that it will take time to change our image and set off on a long termย plan to establish a new perception of our club. Itโll take a commitment to positive football of quality. Stability would be nice too, but itโs less important than erasing the perception people have of CFC. Indeed, but with current board I'd say thats impossible. The club needs heart and soul to create something meaningful. Our board consists of people who are there to turn money around and make everything in balance, but no one knows jackshit how to create something, like SAF did back with United. I hate that word, but board is bunch of plastic people with exception of Roman. but he himself sadly doesnt have knowledge how to operate football club in sporting ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Manchester City have had their first official bid of โฌ45million (ยฃ39.5million) for Napoli midfielderย Jorginhoย rejected by the Serie A club, according toย Rai Sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Come on chelsea grow a set and put a bid inย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 minute ago, the wes said: Come on chelsea grow a set and put a bid inย Would he be your 1st choice as a Kante partner? I'm leaning toward Savic but APPARENTLY Manure had a ยฃ96Mill bid knocked back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Just now, Unionjack said: Would he be your 1st choice as a Kante partner? I'm leaning toward Savic but APPARENTLY Manure had a ยฃ96Mill bid knocked back Im big fan of Jorginho I love his Pirlo style of play I would happy with Kante Jorginho RLC/barkley trio in midfield KK Jorginho and Icardi or martial would be a good transfer window for usย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, the wes said: Im big fan of Jorginho I love his Pirlo style of play I would happy with Kante Jorginho RLC/barkley trio in midfield KK Jorginho and Icardi or martial would be a good transfer window for usย I would emit sex wee if we managed that window mate. Its so important for us to bring in creativity all over the pitch, front to back.And thise are all fit for the job. With the dippers looking like they got Naby Keรฏta, and manure hell for learther after Savic (imagine him with Pog!) we really have to get Kante a proper partner. Its entered my mind that Roman MIGHT be thinking about selling us. With visa probs, money market, relocating to Israel, he might want toย get rid of us??? We would be in proper shit then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 54 minutes ago, Unionjack said: ย manure hell for learther after Savic (imagine him with Pog!)ย I heard reports utd looking to sell pogba to get savic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 40 minutes ago, the wes said: I heard reports utd looking to sell pogba to get savic Noooo. I man imagine them togetther. ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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