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[OhForAGreavsie 6,058]

52 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

However, if his end game is to make money or just break even, it might be time to sell up. He wasn't lacking ambition when he bought the club, but recent events might have curbed his interest and I honestly can't blame him.

I don't know of course but I'd say that this line of criticism is more logical than blaming Marina when we don't know what her operating parameters are.

 

52 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

This entire topic is based on assumptions. There's no weight or value to any point made thus far, as neither of us are Roman.

Can't agree with you here. I think your criticisms have indeed been based on assumptions but the points I've made are an exact description of the situation. I said we don't know what instructions Marina has been given and we don't. I said it's logical to guess that Roman is satisfied with Marina's efforts and it is. After all, not only has she not been sacked, she's actually been given increased responsibility. Why would that happen if the boss wasn't satisfied?

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Can't agree with you here. I think your criticisms have been based on my assumptions but that the points I've made are an exact description of the situation. I said we don't know what instructions Marina has been given and we don't. I said it's logical to guess that Roman is satisfied with Marina's and it is. After all, not only has she not been sacked, she's actually been given increased responsibility. Why would that happen if the boss wasn't satisfied?

 

She's making money for Roman?

 

I stated Roman's displeasure would only be notable if things aren't as rosy come May (as a result of her decisions in the transfer market).

 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,058]

36 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

 

She's making money for Roman?

 

I stated Roman's displeasure would only be notable if things aren't as rosy come May (as a result of her decisions in the transfer market).

 

Firstly there was a typo in my last reply. I've since corrected it but you quoted me while the error was still there. As quoted, my comment says your criticisms were based on my assumptions. It should just say assumptions. Apologies for that.

I've no idea if Marina is making money for Roman. I don't even know if she has been asked to. These are just examples of the kind of things she might have been asked to do, and which would make her priorities a little different to what you seem to have assumed them to be.

That is not what you stated originally but your comment contains more assumptions. How do we know what, if any, decisions Marina is making? How do we know that her task is not simply to carry out the decisions others are making. For example, I'd be shocked if Marina is deciding which players to target in the transfer market. I don't know but I would be shocked.

You say Roman's displeasure would only be detectable if things are not rosy come May. You may be right but I'd have thought if he was going to be unhappy, it would have been visible by now. After all, a lot of posters here think Marina should have been sacked long ago and Roman is not noticeably patient. Let's wait and see.

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Firstly there was a typo in my last reply. I've since corrected it but you quoted me while the error was still there. As quoted, my comment says your criticisms were based on my assumptions. It should just say assumptions. Apologies for that.

I've no idea if Marina is making money for Roman. I don't even know if she has been asked to. These are just examples of the kind of things she might have been asked to do, and which would make her priorities a little different to what you seem to have assumed them to be.

That is not what you stated originally but your comment contains more assumptions. How do we know what, if any, decisions Marina is making? How do we know that her task is not simply to carry out the decisions others are making. For example, I'd be shocked if Marina is deciding which players to target in the transfer market. I don't know but I would be shocked.

You say Roman's displeasure would only be detectable if things are not rosy come May. You may be right but I'd have thought if he was going to be unhappy, it would have been visible by now. After all, a lot of posters here think Marina should have been sacked long ago and Roman is not noticeably patient. Let's wait and see.

 

As long as we don't have a director of football, she's filling that void.

 

Is there someone else behind the scenes that is unbeknown to this board or the vast majority?

 

Time will certainly tell. I just hope someone is appointed to fill the aforementioned position.

 

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21 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Learnt what? How to become an expert transfer market operator by posting on Internet forums?

What makes people think Roman has not already decided what he wants from the club?

What is it about the fact that Marina continues in her post, year after year, which causes people not to accept that her boss must be happy with her work?

What is it about Roman’s history which makes those who push this narrative think that he does not sack people as soon as he looses faith in them?

How do people fail to join these, frankly obvious, dots and realise that Marina must be following her boss’s instructions and working within the parameters he lays down?

Dunno, maybe Roman priority is that the club generates enough money. And here Marina is doing damn great job. Obviously wont be sacked.

But that might be a problem. Our goal should be to get back among best, not generate money. 

Its possible though that we want to go fully legit, self-sufficient club with zero need for owners investment. That however means jack shit if you have competiton that breaks uefa restrictions with no punishment.

Anyway a DoF is absolutely required. Marina can do all those financial obligations great, but I doubt she has any clue how to form a football project. You can have scouts to track players but thats not enough. Yet we are doing exactly that IMO. Track players left and right by scouts, Marina gets recommendations and does the financial part. But there is no vision or project; hence our dismal transfer record and some absolutely ridiculous buys and sales. A quality DoF knows some stuff not to sign Drinkwater for 40 fecking millions. Whoever went ahead with that transfer should get immediate brain check. 

And here we are, still months without Dof. Other teams lose Dof, they appoint new one very soon (Juve or Sevilla comes to mind). 

In another thread I mentioned we have probably worst results next to United in past few years considering the amount of cash spent and transfers done. Woodward is also a fraud and doesnt know what he is doing at all. Appointing Mou in first place, but what is more, they signed 3! #7 in past few years (Di Maria, Depay and Alexis), all turned complete shite. One is a mistake, 3 is pattern of incompetence. Just like at Chelsea with all those weird buys and transfer sales of today world class players that shouldnt be sold in first place.

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Chelsea ‘remain at the window’ for target as Sarri still waits for Fabregas replacement

 

http://sportwitness.co.uk/chelsea-remain-window-summer-target-sarri-still-waits-fabregas-replacement/