Survey - who should we keep and who should we let go?

[Starman60 1,343]

The players that I feel need to be shipped out from the first team are

Ivanovich

Oscar

Remy

Mikel

Moses and Coutrado on loan should also be sold to generate funds. But too many new faces could upset the balance of the side as they would take time to settle in. That said, it took the current team over half a season to settle this season!!!!!!!

 

[the wes 7,212]

7 hours ago, Starman60 said:

The players that I feel need to be shipped out from the first team are

Ivanovich

Oscar

Remy

Mikel

Moses and Coutrado on loan should also be sold to generate funds. But too many new faces could upset the balance of the side as they would take time to settle in. That said, it took the current team over half a season to settle this season!!!!!!!

 

What about Cahill he needs to go as well??

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

18 hours ago, the wes said:

Pajnic can play the deep playmaker role  I would love to see kante Allan pajnic has are midfield trio next season I would have kante and Allan breaking up the play and have pajnic in the deep playmaker role 

 I  like that midfield too but i don't think Fabregas is going anywhere. There have been no reports of him leaving so i'm failry certain Fabregas will be part of our midfield next season.

19 hours ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

All that was needed to be said, really.

This club right now needs defensive stability. You can't have a Kenedy in big games making silly mistakes, i'm all for taking him as second choice though, him or Aké.

The club need both defensive stability and offensive stability. I felt Mourinho made a mistake by focusing too much on the defensive stability and neglecting our offense.(Oscar on the 10, Azpi as left fullback, Ivanovic as rightback)

He sacrificed our offense for defensive stability and had our offense rely way too much on individual brilliance. I hope we don't make that same mistake next season and Conte finds the right balance.

I would be dissapointed if we didn't, at the very least, have one offensive minded fullback starting for us next season and i can't see us buying another fullback as i think centre midfield and central defence are in more dire need of a quality injection. 4 new starters is probably the maximum we're going to get for next season.

So i turn to Kenedy as like i said i have high hopes for him and think he could really add another dimension to our attack. Again i understand it would be a risk but i feel it's a risk worth taking.

 

[manpe 10,861]

OUT:

Cahill, Ivanovic, Matic, Mikel, Oscar, Pato, Remy, Falcao

 

Rest keep.

[the wes 7,212]

1 hour ago, manpe said:

OUT:

Cahill, Ivanovic, Matic, Mikel, Oscar, Pato, Remy, Falcao

 

Rest keep.

Snap mate I agree with that

Which loanees would u bring into the sq for next season???

[manpe 10,861]

Just now, the wes said:

Snap mate I agree with that

Which loanees would u bring into the sq for next season???

Christensen and Ake provided they will be afforded proper game time. I am also willing to give Cuadrado another chance under Conte. Christensen saves us signing another CB and Ake gives solid options for LB and DM as cover if nothing else. Both are home-grown too afaik, so I see why not start bedding them in. They are going 20+ already, are not sucking on mummy's titties anymore and have proven they can play with men like men.

[the wes 7,212]

2 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

 I  like that midfield too but i don't think Fabregas is going anywhere. There have been no reports of him leaving so i'm failry certain Fabregas will be part of our midfield next season.

I think we should bring Lewis Baker back into the sq next season for cover  for fabregas what I have seen of Lewis Baker he has potential to play the deep playmaker role 

[manpe 10,861]

1 minute ago, the wes said:

I think we should bring Lewis Baker back into the sq next season for cover  for fabregas what I have seen of Lewis Baker he has potential to play the deep playmaker role 

Baker is a good shout, I've always rated him. But there is so much silence around him, it seems the fans are the only ones talking about him from time to time. There have been no signs from the club that they are looking to continue with him.

[lucio 5,418]

cahill, oscar , pedro , mikel , falcao , pato- kennedy traore on loan.

that's 8 spaces in the squad...

[the wes 7,212]

25 minutes ago, lucio said:

cahill, oscar , pedro , mikel , falcao , pato- kennedy traore on loan.

that's 8 spaces in the squad...

I would sign 5 New players and bring 3 loanees back 

[the wes 7,212]

36 minutes ago, manpe said:

Christensen and Ake provided they will be afforded proper game time. I am also willing to give Cuadrado another chance under Conte. Christensen saves us signing another CB and Ake gives solid options for LB and DM as cover if nothing else. Both are home-grown too afaik, so I see why not start bedding them in. They are going 20+ already, are not sucking on mummy's titties anymore and have proven they can play with men like men.

I read that Cuadrado does want to come back to Chelsea if that the case I would sell him theres no point bring a player back who doesn't want to be at the bridge 

[manpe 10,861]

1 minute ago, the wes said:

I read that Cuadrado does want to come back to Chelsea if that the case I would sell him theres no point bring a player back who doesn't want to be at the bridge 

No worries, we also have Salah

[lucio 5,418]

nathan ake is a must, simply looks a far better left back than baba

[the wes 7,212]

2 minutes ago, lucio said:

nathan ake is a must, simply looks a far better left back than baba

I agree ake has been a solid left back for Watford this season I would loan out baba to a PL side next season 

[the wes 7,212]

10 minutes ago, manpe said:

we also have Salah

Remember him lol 

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

4 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

 I  like that midfield too but i don't think Fabregas is going anywhere. There have been no reports of him leaving so i'm failry certain Fabregas will be part of our midfield next season.

The club need both defensive stability and offensive stability. I felt Mourinho made a mistake by focusing too much on the defensive stability and neglecting our offense.(Oscar on the 10, Azpi as left fullback, Ivanovic as rightback)

He sacrificed our offense for defensive stability and had our offense rely way too much on individual brilliance. I hope we don't make that same mistake next season and Conte finds the right balance.

I would be dissapointed if we didn't, at the very least, have one offensive minded fullback starting for us next season and i can't see us buying another fullback as i think centre midfield and central defence are in more dire need of a quality injection. 4 new starters is probably the maximum we're going to get for next season.

So i turn to Kenedy as like i said i have high hopes for him and think he could really add another dimension to our attack. Again i understand it would be a risk but i feel it's a risk worth taking.

 

Defensively is the only way this team can play successfully, or at least could play successfully until a year ago.
Similarly to what you say, sacrificing our defensive stability for our offensive would be an even bigger mistake. Hence why Kenedy won't cut it as a regular starter.
We need a proper lb, one able to defend as well as attack if that wasn't clear enough.

[nyikolajevics 2,707]

 keep: Courtois, Begovic, Azpilicueta, Zouma, Baba, Terry, Fábregas, Mikel, Loftus-Cheek, Willian, Kenedy, Traoré, Costa, Pato

let go: Falcao, Oscar, Pedro, Rémy, Cahill, Matic, Hazard

[Tomo 21,751]

Here is something I would like to get general opinion on? Who else would happily sign up for another season of Ivanovic and Baba getting significant minutes if we sort out central defense and midfield? And I mean truly sort it out.

Ivanovic, Azpi, Baba and Ake is no worse than our fullback combo in the back to back title years when we broke defensive records. 

[manpe 10,861]

3 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Here is something I would like to get general opinion on? Who else would happily sign up for another season of Ivanovic and Baba getting significant minutes if we sort out central defense and midfield? And I mean truly sort it out.

Ivanovic, Azpi, Baba and Ake is no worse than our fullback combo in the back to back title years when we broke defensive records. 

No question I would sign that deal. With proper midfield and central defence everything else will fall in place too. I have given him a lot of stick this season, but I have a feeling Ivanovic would become his solid self again in a team that will not isolate him 1-on-1 every attack. Ideally he would be backup to Azpilicueta and the left spot will be fought between Baba and Ake. The competition between Baba and Ake would be something to behold, two unproven youngsters giving their all to win that place - I definitely want to see that! I miss the days when we had competition in the squad.

[Tomo 21,751]

7 minutes ago, manpe said:

No question I would sign that deal. With proper midfield and central defence everything else will fall in place too. I have given him a lot of stick this season, but I have a feeling Ivanovic would become his solid self again in a team that will not isolate him 1-on-1 every attack. Ideally he would be backup to Azpilicueta and the left spot will be fought between Baba and Ake. The competition between Baba and Ake would be something to behold, two unproven youngsters giving their all to win that place - I definitely want to see that! I miss the days when we had competition in the squad.

If we make loads of changes in CB and CM I can see Conte starting the season with Ivan and Azpi, not because he will nesseserily want to, but too many new arrivals (which Ake technically will be) will probably mean problems with gelling, like we saw with Spurs.

If we have the two new centre mids and two new centre halfs (one being Christensen recall) we all want, I can see everything else remaining the same at least for the first few months.