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  1. 1. Who is your Man of the Match?

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I'll take what TalkChelsea published and complete the weirdest scenario, you're welcome :ph34r:

And yea I really have nothing to do with my life :ph34r:

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Most Complex Scenario : Chelsea draw and Kiev win --> All teams level on 11 pts --> Points gained, then goal difference, then goals scored to rank the three teams, based on the matches played between them exclusively, as stated by the Uefa Rules.

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To sum it up :

  • No matter the score of the draw with Porto, it is 1 pt for each, and it doesn't change the particular goal difference between the teams.
  • If we do draw AND Dynamo fail to beat Maccabi, we qualify automatically second behind Porto, because they own us in th Head to head. -> Porto has been the best in our direct games with them.
  • If we do draw AND Dynamo win, NO MATTER THE SCORE, we qualify second. --> Dynamo have been the best in the games played between the three teams.

It might seem a little complex, but it really isn't.

  • Win, we go first, automatically.
  • Draw, we go second, if Kiev win in this case, they go first, if they fail to win, Porto goes first.
  • Lose, we're out ( it's pretty certain that Kiev will beat Maccabi.. )

Its simple if we win we are first if we draw we are second.

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Was a great experience for the local supporters and it was nice to see us win comfortably. We played some nice football in the first half but still not good enough in the final third, we have to stop trying to walk the ball in, these endless one-twos in the penalty area are really starting to frustrate me personally... In the second half, as Jose said, we fell asleep. They created problems for us with 10 men and it is absolutely shocking the fact that we don't know how to control a game being one man up, a recurring problem for us from last season. Only after we felt some pressure we managed to subdue a really weak opposition which MTA is.

But all in all, a good away win which will probably grant us some needed confidence.

Willian MOTM, Baba is close second.

Up the Chels!

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I watched until the 3-0 yesterday then switched to the thriller Lyon v. Gent.

Now if we win against Porto we finish first.

If we draw and Dynamo win against Maccabi then we qualify as seconds - Dynamo top the group.
If we lose and Dynamo don't win then we are seconds again in the final standings - Porto first.
If we lose we are out - unless Dynamo fail against Maccabi.

Porto cannot afford to settle for the draw. We can, after a fashion, but Porto cannot.

According to clubelo we are level pegging on points, CFC 1798, Porto 1792.

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why do sites have us top of the group ....surely it should be Porto based on H2H so far

When there are two teams at the same points h2h counts - so I 'm told.

In the world cup it was different.

When there are three teams you have to make them into a mini league of three.

With Porto v. CFC the h2h is not over so may be they put us in alphabetical order.

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why do sites have us top of the group ....surely it should be Porto based on H2H so far

I don't know if it's true, but i readed that H2H is working only if MORE than 2 have same anount of points and we have +8 goal difference. OR there's still 1 more game so maybe H2H is not working now
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I don't know if it's true, but i readed that H2H is working only if MORE than 2 have same anount of points and we have +8 goal difference. OR there's still 1 more game so maybe H2H is not working now

Oly v. Arsenal is the talking point now and Arsenal are clearly ahead on goal dif. but they have to win by 2 the pundits say.

So the criterion for two teams is H2H.

There is no H2H with three teams. You make them into mini league. If after you end up with two teams on the level again then you go for the H2H between them.

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Oly v. Arsenal is the talking point now and Arsenal are clearly ahead on goal dif. but they have to win by 2 the pundits say.

So the criterion for two teams is H2H.

There is no H2H with three teams. You make them into mini league. If after you end up with two teams on the level again then you go for the H2H between them.

ohh.. ok, its really complicated sistem. They could just made it with goal difference and then H2H.
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If Kyiv beat MTA and CFC v. Porto is a draw then it is Kyiv - CFV - Porto.

Chelsea4 has got it wrong.

In this case the three team table becomes as follows:

Kyiv = 5 points, goal dif. > 0

CFC = 5 points, goal dif. = 0

Porto = 5 points, goal dif. = -1

I didn't say anythink wrong i said if we win we are first and Porto is second,if we draw we are second and Dynamo is first.

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so who finishes top if all 3 are on 11 points and Porto are eliminated in the table of a mini league....does it then revert to h2h between us and Kiev

If all at 11 pts, take away the Maccabi results from all and it ends up as I say before.

Chelsea4's table says if Kyiv win and Chelsea draws then it's Porto-Chelsea. Wrong. It is Kyiv-Chelsea.

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Fuck permutations. Long story short:

WIN - We'll qualify and secure top spot

DRAW - We'll qualify and finish second

LOSE - We'll finish third and go into the Europa League (assuming Dynamo Kiev beat Maccabi Tel-Aviv. otherwise, we'll qualify)

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Start of the second half untill Willian's goal- probably our worst minutes this season.

If there were any hopes in me that things will get OK (relatively) untill end of the season, maybe 4-5th place, this game just proved me why we are 15th after third of the season and why we are gonna stay there.

Hope to steal a draw vs Porto, they are the favorites to win.

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