Stats 7,142 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 19 hours ago, Tomo said: I don't know what was worse, his performance vs Cardiff or the fact i wasn't evenΒ remotely surprised. Absolutely tragic player. Think you are being really harsh Tomo. He is more times than not, there most dangerous player which is emphasized why Benitez usually plays him for the whole game. He was arguably their best player since arriving there on loan last season, which even drew rumours of teams such as PSG and Bayern being interested. He has flaws but also good qualities. Then you also have to remember he is only 22 and playing regular football for a PL team. He still has a lot of room to grow and I think he will get better, albeit not with us but another top flight team. If you were saying this if he was 27 or so I could understand but man he is 22 and has shown more signs of promise than not at Newcastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Absolute tragic last night v Forest. Got done with ease for the first goal, looked like he didn't care or couldn't be arsed and the 3rd goal a big heavy touch, got robbed of the ball and they conceded a third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Bad couple of games. He must push upwards if he wants to maintain Rafa's trust. He is a loan player so Rafa will be fast to take him out of the team if he isn't performing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Kenedy still dreams of winning the Premier League with Chelsea https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2018/9/11/17843676/kenedy-still-dreams-of-winning-the-premier-league-with-chelsea Yeah me tooΒ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Just scored against United. Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Kenedy should never play ever again for Newcastle United after that β Send him straight back to Chelsea https://www.themag.co.uk/2019/01/kenedy-should-never-play-ever-again-for-newcastle-united-after-that-send-him-straight-back-to-chelsea/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Rafael Benitez issues update on Kenedy's Newcastle and Chelsea future https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/rafael-benitez-issues-update-kenedys-15747013 lol problem with his ...wait 4it...toenailΒ Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, mccg said: Rafael Benitez issues update on Kenedy's Newcastle and Chelsea future https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/rafael-benitez-issues-update-kenedys-15747013 lol problem with his ...wait 4it...toenailΒ I am so sick (NOTHING to do with you posting, nor anyone else, please keep it up!) of hearing about all these fucking dregs we have out on loan its a fucking joke SELL THEM THE FUCK OFF and buy decent players, ffs mccg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Vesper said: I am so sick (NOTHING to do with you posting, nor anyone else, please keep it up!) of hearing about all these fucking dregs we have out on loan its a fucking joke SELL THEM THE FUCK OFF and buy decent players, ffs Here is list of our loan players https://www.chelseafc.com/en/teams/on-loan-playersΒ barring afew ,how much approx do you think if we were to have a fire saleΒ now, we wouldΒ reasonably get in the current market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, mccg said: Here is list of our loan players https://www.chelseafc.com/en/teams/on-loan-playersΒ barring afew ,how much approx do you think if we were to have a fire saleΒ now, we wouldΒ reasonably get in the current market? Β£250-275m, (counting final sale of Morata, as well as the 2 on main who should be on loan and sold, Piazon and Van Ginkel),Β Β Β and that is keeping MainΒ squad next year Tammy Pulisic Reece James Β 8 out on loan (if that is the max) Mount Tomori Sterling Clarke-Salter Chalobah Palmer Dasilva Brown mccg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: Β£250-275m, (counting final sale of Morata, as the 2 on main who should be on loan and sold, Piazon and Van Ginkel),Β Β Β and that is keeping MainΒ squad next year Tammy Pulisic Reece James Β 8 out on loan (if that is the max) Mount Tomori Sterling Clarke-Salter Chalobah Palmer Dasilva Brown So giving that dosh ...who would you get ?, and get yourself something out of da change lol...ps why the fuck the board are not thinking along these lines now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, mccg said: So giving that dosh ...who would you get ?, and get yourself something out of da change lol...ps why the fuck the board are not thinking along these lines now? Number one, I would have bought PiΔ tek. 31m and we OWN HIM. 27m to loan an ageing Higs for 18 months. With the 275m from loan army sales Barella 45m MilitΓ£o 45m Tonali 25m Lozano 40m Ben Chilwell 45m Nicolas Pepe 60m (Lille would take that) Sarabia 15m release clause Total 275m Zero net spend Β Then sell (we have no choice) on 2 CHO 45m Eden 80m plus Hakimi Willian 45m AC 30mΒ Pedro 15m Alonso 45m Giroud 10m Barkley 25m Drinkwater 20m Zappacosta 15m Emerson 20m 350m total in sales Β I then buy JovicΒ 50m Mbappe 265m Junior Firpo 45m Ake 40m Gunn 15m 65m net spend For all Β LOOK at that team We have for 65m NET spend It includes MBAPPE FFS And HG is fine GK Kepa GK Angus GunnΒ HG GK Bulka HG CB Rudiger CB MilitΓ£o CB Ake HG CB Azpi CB Ampadu HG LB ChilwellΒ HG LB Junior Firpo RB Achraf Hakimi RB Reece JamesΒ HG DH DMF Jorginho DH DMF Sandro Tonali CMF Kante CMF Nicolo Barella AMF Pablo Sarabia AMF RLCΒ HG LW Mbappe LW Hirving LozanoΒ RW Nicolas Pepe RW Pulisic CF Jovic CF PiΔ tek CF TammyΒ HG Β THAT TEAM COULD WIN THE TREBLE no way anyone wouldΒ be able to convince me it couldn'tΒ It is so deep so versatile Zero weaknesses So young too Dynasty timeΒ mccg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 OBVIOUSLY this will NEVER happens (and cannot as Piatek is now gone as well) I just wanted to answer fully what I would do IF the loan army was also liquidated (all but 11) that is the first side I have made with Mbappe on it, btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 35 minutes ago, Vesper said: Number one, I would have bought PiΔ tek. 31m and we OWN HIM. 27m to loan an ageing Higs for 18 months. With the 275m from loan army sales Barella 45m MilitΓ£o 45m Tonali 25m Lozano 40m Ben Chilwell 45m Nicolas Pepe 60m (Lille would take that) Sarabia 15m release clause Total 275m Zero net spend Β Then sell (we have no choice) on 2 CHO 45m Eden 80m plus Hakimi Willian 45m AC 30mΒ Pedro 15m Alonso 45m Giroud 10m Barkley 25m Drinkwater 20m Zappacosta 15m Emerson 20m 350m total in sales Β I then buy JovicΒ 50m Mbappe 265m Junior Firpo 45m Ake 40m Gunn 15m 65m net spend For all Β LOOK at that team We have for 65m NET spend It includes MBAPPE FFS And HG is fine GK Kepa GK Angus GunnΒ HG GK Bulka HG CB Rudiger CB MilitΓ£o CB Ake HG CB Azpi CB Ampadu HG LB ChilwellΒ HG LB Junior Firpo RB Achraf Hakimi RB Reece JamesΒ HG DH DMF Jorginho DH DMF Sandro Tonali CMF Kante CMF Nicolo Barella AMF Pablo Sarabia AMF RLCΒ HG LW Mbappe LW Hirving LozanoΒ RW Nicolas Pepe RW Pulisic CF Jovic CF PiΔ tek CF TammyΒ HG Β THAT TEAM COULD WIN THE TREBLE no way anyone wouldΒ be able to convince me it couldn'tΒ It is so deep so versatile Zero weaknesses So young too Dynasty timeΒ Felix Magath would be the perfect manager for you, Vesper!^^ Make him manager,Β dof and main negotiator for transfers like he was at Wolfsburg and the door would never stand still Β The guy wasΒ crazy on the transfer market. He brought in 113 players between 2007 and 2012, almost 6 per window. At Wolfsburg he had two spells of 2 and 1.5 years bringing in 23 players in each of them. And he did that with a very modest net spend, brought players no one ever heard of before, some hits some failures c'est la vie. Also an absolute grinder on the training ground too. Players would either follow him or he would just sell and find a replacement in an instant. Biggest success surely when they absolutely smashed Bayern for the title in 2009, humiliating them 5-1 in the deciding game. Shame he lost his touch with both transfers and tactics/training methods but surely I would love to have a guy like him in charge who knows the market inside out, knows how to get deals done fast. Someone who can transform a whole squad in a matter of weeks.Β Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Felix Magath would be the perfect manager for you, Vesper!^^ Make him manager,Β dof and main negotiator for transfers like he was at Wolfsburg and the door would never stand still Β The guy wasΒ crazy on the transfer market. He brought in 113 players between 2007 and 2012, almost 6 per window. At Wolfsburg he had two spells of 2 and 1.5 years bringing in 23 players in each of them. And he did that with a very modest net spend, brought players no one ever heard of before, some hits some failures c'est la vie. Also an absolute grinder on the training ground too. Players would either follow him or he would just sell and find a replacement in an instant. Biggest success surely when they absolutely smashed Bayern for the title in 2009, humiliating them 5-1 in the deciding game. Shame he lost his touch with both transfers and tactics/training methods but surely I would love to have a guy like him in charge who knows the market inside out, knows how to get deals done fast. Someone who can transform a whole squad in a matter of weeks.Β I know!!! always loved him in the aughties!! I am a deal maker in my professional career and have to think 10 steps ahead I get paid pretty decent to cut out deadwood and make reccos on both under-performing and new speculative high-growth potential assets I will advise to dump a dog inΒ heartbeat and ALWAYS on the lookout for the hidden remote gems Β Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Felix Magath would be the perfect manager for you, Vesper!^^ Make him manager,Β dof and main negotiator for transfers like he was at Wolfsburg and the door would never stand still Β The guy wasΒ crazy on the transfer market. He brought in 113 players between 2007 and 2012, almost 6 per window. At Wolfsburg he had two spells of 2 and 1.5 years bringing in 23 players in each of them. And he did that with a very modest net spend, brought players no one ever heard of before, some hits some failures c'est la vie. Also an absolute grinder on the training ground too. Players would either follow him or he would just sell and find a replacement in an instant. Biggest success surely when they absolutely smashed Bayern for the title in 2009, humiliating them 5-1 in the deciding game. Shame he lost his touch with both transfers and tactics/training methods but surely I would love to have a guy like him in charge who knows the market inside out, knows how to get deals done fast. Someone who can transform a whole squad in a matter of weeks.Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, Vesper said: I know!!! always loved him in the aughties!! I am a deal maker in my professional career and have to think 10 steps ahead I get paid pretty decent to cut out deadwood and make reccos on both under-performing and new speculative high-growth potential assets I will advise to dump a dog inΒ heartbeat and ALWAYS on the lookout for the hidden remote gems Β and that's what you need. Someone who is rutheless. who kicks the shit out and brings quality in. Who sees players for what they are and not what they are hyped up to be. Someone who knows the market inside out. If you can't get the absolute top players, you come up with a viable alternative. Keeping the deadwood is just as bad as not brininging in quality as it costs tons of money and blocks space.If a gamble does not work out fine, get the fuck out and a new one in.Β If a player you want is available at a price, shut up and pay up. Not rocket science. But you need both, business and football knowledge.Β Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: and that's what you need. Someone who is rutheless. who kicks the shit out and brings quality in. Who sees players for what they are and not what they are hyped up to be. Someone who knows the market inside out. If you can't get the absolute top players, you come up with a viable alternative. Keeping the deadwood is just as bad as not brininging in quality as it costs tons of money and blocks space.If a gamble does not work out fine, get the fuck out and a new one in.Β If a player you want is available at a price, shut up and pay up. Not rocket science. But you need both, business and football knowledge.Β hell you sound like DoF material!!! RUTHLESS is my middle name Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vesper said: hell you sound like DoF material!!! RUTHLESS is my middle name Ha thanks Ves! Working in investmwnt banking myself i usually know a deal when i see one. In an other life we'd run the club together Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said: Ha thanks Ves! Working in investmwnt banking myself i usually know a deal when i see one. In an other life we'd run the club together I truly want to own a footie team some day, obviusly not an EPL one, unless I had a shit tonne of other investors IF Germany ever changed the 50% plus 1 rule here is the one!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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