MefiX19 1,092 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 7 hours ago, Sideshow Luiz said: Kenedy is left-footed, no? And Alonso? yeah kenedy is. I would like to bring him back in january for cover the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Shame. I had alot of hope for him http://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premiership/chelsea-set-to-call-time-on-winger-deal/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TransferTavern+(The+Transfer+Tavern+Home+Page) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 11 hours ago, Unionjack said: Shame. I had alot of hope for him http://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premiership/chelsea-set-to-call-time-on-winger-deal/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TransferTavern+(The+Transfer+Tavern+Home+Page) Get him back we are short for wing back cover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 14 minutes ago, the wes said: Get him back we are short for wing back cover I reckon hes got the makings of one too. WSe never had a scooby that he would work as a LB but the fellas nippy and offwnsive minded. Its a shame we dont have Felipe uis too. I think hed make a good LWB maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 23 minutes ago, Unionjack said: Its a shame we dont have Felipe uis too. I think hed make a good LWB maybe. I agree mate it's a shame mourinho sold him ffs Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, the wes said: I agree mate it's a shame mourinho sold him ffs We could make a hellova team from the players he sold eh blueblood22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 My initial hope was that Kenedy could be a good LWB along with Baba but its curious that Conte would send them both away knowing full well we only really had alonso/aina for LWB. Perhaps he could have a moses-esque resurgence and adapt to the role but he will have to really commit to getting back on D and reading the game. I was enthusiastic about his possibilities as a LWB now im a lot more hesitant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I would definately bring him back here in jan. I still have full faith he can make it as LWB. But he needs to play alot. Now his loan is pointless, even if he wont play much here, he can learn from conte and improve for next season. Alonso cant play every game and I certainly prefer Kenedy over Iva. Sastha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood22 50 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 On 11/24/2016 at 2:46 PM, Unionjack said: I reckon hes got the makings of one too. WSe never had a scooby that he would work as a LB but the fellas nippy and offwnsive minded. Its a shame we dont have Felipe uis too. I think hed make a good LWB maybe. only if Mourinho wouldn't sell ryan bertrand we had another home grown player and really great WLB he could have been perfect for this job, still miss this lad. Unionjack and Chelseabluerising 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I think loaning him to Watford was logical because they have an Italian manager who usually sets up with a 3 man defence and wing backs where he could develop and learn the role before maybe being considered for a place here in a similar position... and I'm sure the club thought the same considering Conte always thought about using 3 at the back and wing backs eventually. Shame it's not worked out but would have been a good loan if he could get in to the team in that left wing back role ahead of Holebas. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 23 hours ago, blueblood22 said: only if Mourinho wouldn't sell ryan bertrand we had another home grown player and really great WLB he could have been perfect for this job, still miss this lad. Bertrand doesn't offer anywhere near enough offensively for wing back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood22 50 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 22 hours ago, Tomo said: Bertrand doesn't offer anywhere near enough offensively for wing back. well you wouldn't say Moses have any defensively strengths few months ago, so you cannot know what magic Conte could have done with Bertrand, and even without Conte i believe Bertrand is not that far away offensively form Marcos Alonso . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 8 minutes ago, blueblood22 said: well you wouldn't say Moses have any defensively strengths few months ago, so you cannot know what magic Conte could have done with Bertrand, and even without Conte i believe Bertrand is not that far away offensively form Marcos Alonso . Just because it worked with Moses doesn't mean any Tom, Dick and Harry could. Its like saying give every manager loads of time because well look at Fergie. If Bertrand was to work in this system it would be as a LCB but playing two natural full backs in a back three would probably make us more suseptible down the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 On 24/11/2016 at 2:32 PM, akgw13 said: My initial hope was that Kenedy could be a good LWB along with Baba but its curious that Conte would send them both away knowing full well we only really had alonso/aina for LWB. Perhaps he could have a moses-esque resurgence and adapt to the role but he will have to really commit to getting back on D and reading the game. I was enthusiastic about his possibilities as a LWB now im a lot more hesitant. As an offensive option, I never had any hope for Kennedy from the moment I first saw his YouTube videos. Not enough quality of touch. I love his hussle around the pitch but I do not think this qualifies him as a wingback. Indeed, I'd say he has a better chance as an out-and-out left back. The key component of a wingback is to be a good possession player. This is why a rather ordinary defender like Alonso, and a converted attacker like Moses, have nevertheless made good contributions to our general improvement. Kennedy is not a good possession player. He's more about making explosive and spectacular contributions. Minute by minute, game by game, moving the ball around calmly and accurately is not his thing. That is Alonso's thing however, and I love him for it. Even so, I want us to find an upgrade to Marcos. I want a player who can give us the stability in possession which Alonso provides but with a more powerful defensive performance at the same time. Kennedy is not that player. Learning to be an excellent defender who can provide an overlapping threat is his main chance. A threat which comes from getting on the end of passing combinations, rather than being involved in them. This is a huge task for Kennedy. He has spent virtually all his life as an attacker yet he has not become an excellent one. To change to a new position now, and to excel at it, is almost certainly too much to hope for. akgw13 and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 7 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: As an offensive option, I never had any hope for Kennedy from the moment I first saw his YouTube videos. Not enough quality of touch. I love his hussle around the pitch but I do not think this qualifies him as a wingback. Indeed, I'd say he has a better chance as an out-and-out left back. The key component of a wingback is to be a good possession player. This is why a rather ordinary defender like Alonso, and a converted attacker like Moses, have nevertheless made good contributions to our general improvement. Kennedy is not a good possession player. He's more about making explosive and spectacular contributions. Minute by minute, game by game, moving the ball around calmly and accurately is not his thing.that is Alonso's thing however, and I love him for it. Even so, I want us to find an upgrade Marcos. I want a player who can give us the stability in possession which Alonso provides but with a more powerful defensive performance at the same time. Kennedy is not that player. We will see how he develops. I think he could be absolutely brilliant sub if we need to get back in the game. He is a direct and not afraid to try things. Also very quick and decently strong which is great against tired defences. akgw13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 9 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: We will see how he develops. I think he could be absolutely brilliant sub if we need to get back in the game. He is a direct and not afraid to try things. Also very quick and decently strong which is great against tired defences. Yes, I think that's an excellent point. It does depend on his getting a better understanding of what he can and cannot do, and on being willing to accept such a role as a career choice. Becoming a starting defender is almost impossible for Kennedy, but becoming a starting attacker at Chelsea's level is even less likely. The role you suggest is a potential solution for him. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 @OhForAGreavsie @BlueLyon I agree with both of you. Kenedy just seems to lack the necessary skillset of the position(at the moment) there is always the off off off very slim chance Conte can work his magic on him. But worst case I agree that he can be a super sub if we are behind and need a little more direct attack from the LWB role. It is a shame as I had high hopes for him initially and am not willing to completely right him off but it does look like a steep up hill climb for him. I am still holding out hope that Baba can come back with some confidence and be a good depth option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 http://www.101greatgoals.com/news/chelseas-cesc-fabregas-drops-kenedy-news-instagram/ Seem like kenedy back training at chelsea I wonder if hes getting a recall back to Chelsea and I wonder conte can work his magic and turn kenedy into a solid wing-back like he did with moses TheIceMan and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Well it seems hes home so it might be the case Conte can work with him Chelsea’s Cesc Fabregas drops Kenedy news on Instagram http://www.101greatgoals.com/news/chelseas-cesc-fabregas-drops-kenedy-news-instagram/ kellzfresh and the wes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky 739 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Good to hear his back. I want to see him given a shot as LWB. I think he could do well for us. Him and Moses would be a fanatic pair of WB's King11Didier, Svita 10 and Chelseabluerising 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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