🇨🇴 Radamel Falcao

[Sheva. 5,373]

I think he would have gone for about what Aguero went (38m).

I agree we have started a terrible trend (but wasnt because of Torres, it was Roman's money and ambition that brought inflation) and I realise no one is worth 50m (some special ones aside), but we are in need for a striker when he is in top of his form.

Cavani can go for about 35m in August, but do we really wait to gamble a top4 or more competition?

38m is too much for a striker from Marseille imo, but anyway that's not the main point here.

I would say we're in need of a striker who can add 20-25 goals to what we already get from the rest of the squad. Falcao can do this, but so can many other strikers.

They are some good strikers out there, but we won't look at them because they're not big names. Just like we did not look at Falcao when his release clause was much lower at Porto (he then signed a new deal and moved to Atletico 2 weeks later)

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I would say we're in need of a striker who can add 20-25 goals to what we already get from the rest of the squad. Falcao can do this, but so can many other strikers.

Who?

[robdog 2,084]

Who?

Me...Ok, only in my Over 40 Sunday League hell I scored my first goal this past Sunday

[Sheva. 5,373]

Who?

I can't write names like i'm an expert, but that's why we have scouts. I mentioned Suarez in an earlier post, a player we missed out on because we were going after the big name, expensive player - Mario Gomez and Torres.

A player like Soldado has scored 20 or more in his past 3 seasons, i'm sure he will have the same success when he eventually leaves Valencia. Lewandowski scored 30 last season, 6 less than Falcao, another player i'm sure will do well wherever he ends up. Higuain like i mentioned yesterday is a good finisher and scores a lot for a player who's rotated often. That's just 3 names from my limited knowledge of other leagues. (Oh yeah and there's Huntelaar and Llorente who scored close to 30 last season, but they've already been many discussions about them)

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38m is too much for a striker from Marseille imo, but anyway that's not the main point here.

I would say we're in need of a striker who can add 20-25 goals to what we already get from the rest of the squad. Falcao can do this, but so can many other strikers.

They are some good strikers out there, but we won't look at them because they're not big names. Just like we did not look at Falcao when his release clause was much lower at Porto (he then signed a new deal and moved to Atletico 2 weeks later)

Falcao will add more than 20-25 goals per season, his upside is way greater than goals. Now find me someone who will bring it and still costs 20-25m. I will openly accept him!

[Sheva. 5,373]

Falcao will add more than 20-25 goals per season, his upside is way greater than goals. Now find me someone who will bring it and still costs 20-25m. I will openly accept him!

What is this upside that is greater than goals? i don't know, so i can't answer the question.

He brings goals, and there's nothing wrong with that - as that is what you expect when you buy a striker

[kellzfresh 7,229]

The real question is are we willing to buy an average striker(demba ba, papis cisse) and a central midfielder only to find out that the striker can't finish the chances??

Are we underatting how important someone with good finishing brings to the team?? The CWC spoiled chances anyone??

Some statements

1. "Falcao only thrives on opportunities created for him." The fact is every striker needs the chances to be created for him, the difference is falcao is the best finisher.

2. "He doesn't do anything outside the box" please falcao is not messi, no player dribbles 5 pple to score but messi. Not cavani, not lewandoski. Falcao just does the basic things, "receive pass, pass the ball to the AM, make a run, receive the return pass and score". Perfect example is the goal against barcelona.

3. Falcao is scoring 40 goals with average midfielders and some people here are underating that feat?? Mata and hazard are 10times more intelligent than athletico and porto playmakers and yet falcao scores 40goals in 45games. When sturridge made runs, mata found him easily but he missed. Falcao is the master of making runs, and he will score the chances. Infact from most of the posts I'm seeing people are even underatting the runs falcao makes, its funny how people were saying torres doesn't make runs sometime ago.

4. Manure have been shit defensively but are still winning games, are looking better than mancity JUST BECAUSE THEY GOT A GOALSCORER (VANPERSIE) this season. Who has scored against chelsea, arsenal and mancity (BIG GAMES).

We have lost drogba our big game saver and we have a chance to get another and some people are underatting the importance of big games here?? :banghead:

People are only worried because we can use some of the money for falcao to boost other areas of our squad, we all understand. But stop underatting falcao, its getting ridiculous he is among the top 10 best players in the world right now.

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What is this upside that is greater than goals? i don't know, so i can't answer the question.

He brings goals, and there's nothing wrong with that - as that is what you expect when you buy a striker

1. Shirt sales and sponsors.

2. More fans.

3. Pressure off some youngsters.

4. Mental impact on the opposition and space for other attacking players.

5. Assists (how many Torres has?).

There are more a "regular" striker wont bring...

[Kojo 4,676]

If he never scored that hattrick against us, i seriously doubt this thread would of been so popular.

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It seems to me that a lot of people think that any player who would cost under £50m is 'average'. That's just bizarre.

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If he never scored that hattrick against us, i seriously doubt this thread would of been so popular.

It probably helped, but the guy's reputation was simply solidified in that game.

Are there other options? Yes. But Falcao ticks more boxes than the other options and you pay a premium for that sometimes.

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1. Shirt sales and sponsors.

2. More fans.

3. Pressure off some youngsters.

4. Mental impact on the opposition and space for other attacking players.

5. Assists (how many Torres has?).

There are more a "regular" striker wont bring...

I don't buy the first two points at all. How's is Falcao going to do all that? He isn't bloody David Beckham.

[Sheva. 5,373]

1. Shirt sales and sponsors.

2. More fans.

3. Pressure off some youngsters.

4. Mental impact on the opposition and space for other attacking players.

5. Assists (how many Torres has?).

There are more a "regular" striker wont bring...

Most of these are not important mate. And as for assists lol, Falcao rarely even passes in the box. Torres is the same, except for last season when he had double digits assists.

Also 4: Mental impact? people will actually love to face him and "welcome" him to the league. And every decent striker can create space, Torres does this.

[Kojo 4,676]

It probably helped, but the guy's reputation was simply solidified in that game.

Are there other options? Yes. But Falcao ticks more boxes than the other options and you pay a premium for that sometimes.

Cavani would be better for us.

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Cavani would be better for us.

I think Cavani would've been better for us last year and that Falcao will be better for us now, and especially next season if we actually get the guy we know Roman wants. I really like Cavani, but I look at what our club wants to do and Falcao really does seem the best choice.

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I don't buy the first two points at all. How's is Falcao going to do all that? He isn't bloody David Beckham.

Most of these are not important mate. And as for assists lol, Falcao rarely even passes in the box. Torres is the same, except for last season when he had double digits assists.

Also 4: Mental impact? people will actually love to face him and "welcome" him to the league. And every decent striker can create space, Torres does this.

The first two points are completely true for casual and abroad fans. Dont try to deny the increase in marketing revenue big sigings have. The sponsor aspect is more of better deals due to the increase in media impact. The fans we get are the plastic ones (that usually follow the trend), but they still bring money. I am experiencing it with Oscar, our shirt sales and media exposure has almost double because of him.

The "mental impact" is true, in any sport. For instance, dont you think RG3 worries his opposition and cheers his teammates?

[Kojo 4,676]

I think Cavani would've been better for us last year and that Falcao will be better for us now, and especially next season if we actually get the guy we know Roman wants. I really like Cavani, but I look at what our club wants to do and Falcao really does seem the best choice.

Cavani is a team player who works hard, Falcao has many asects of his game which is incredibly average, such as his passing, his link up play isn't special.

Our work rate in the team overall isn't really that good enough either, so what's Falcao going to do?, you think he is really going to solve all of our problems?. I know for a fact people are looking at this so one dimensional and thinking that the chances Torres missed Falcao would've scored them. Coming to the premier league is going to be extremely different for him, he's been in Portugal and Spain for most parts of his life, where it is a similar degree of football.

And we will soon find out that our team aint exaclty all that creative afterall. I think this team will take time in all honesty. And we should be looking to build our spine first, but a new striker should definitely be on the cards, and i don't think a poacher is the answer.

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Cavani is a team player who works hard, Falcao has many asects of his game which is incredibly average, such as his passing, his link up play isn't special.

Our work rate in the team overall isn't really that good enough either, so what's Falcao going to do?, you think he is really going to solve all of our problems?. I know for a fact people are looking at this so one dimensional and thinking that the chances Torres missed Falcao would've scored them. Coming to the premier league is going to be extremely different for him, he's been in Portugal and Spain for most parts of his life, where it is a similar degree of football.

And we will soon find out that our team aint exaclty all that creative afterall. I think this team will take time in all honesty. And we should be looking to build our spine first, but a new striker should definitely be on the cards, and i don't think a poacher is the answer.

I agree that Cavani is a good team player and is better than Falcao in certain regards. I just look at what our team needs and think Falcao is the best available option right now. We need a guy who stretches the field, finishes moves and makes good runs - it sounds simple but it's where we've struggled all season. You seem to be looking for another Drogba, but everything seems to suggest we're moving away from that.

It won't solve all our problems, but the effect of having a guy who fits your system can be dramatic. Sure there's the culture shock, but that would be the case with Cavani too. Like I said earlier this isn't an exact science but when I look at all the things we want in a striker at this point in time and going forward, Falcao seems to tick most boxes.

If this was one year ago, I'd agree that Cavani would be the best choice.

[Sheva. 5,373]

The "mental impact" is true, in any sport. For instance, dont you think RG3 worries his opposition and cheers his teammates?

He will need several top performances for this to happen, won't just be a given immediately he puts on the shirt.

[Kojo 4,676]

I agree that Cavani is a good team player and is better than Falcao in certain regards. I just look at what our team needs and think Falcao is the best available option right now. We need a guy who stretches the field, finishes moves and makes good runs - it sounds simple but it's where we've struggled all season. You seem to be looking for another Drogba, but everything seems to suggest we're moving away from that.

It won't solve all our problems, but the effect of having a guy who fits your system can be dramatic. Sure there's the culture shock, but that would be the case with Cavani too. Like I said earlier this isn't an exact science but when I look at all the things we want in a striker at this point in time and going forward, Falcao seems to tick most boxes.

If this was one year ago, I'd agree that Cavani would be the best choice.

Stop the comparrison with Drogba, I'm not comparing I'm using an example.No one is like Drogba, but Drogba fits a certain catagory as a team playing forward, just like Schurle for Laverkusen or whatever his name is, and Cavani is a team playing forward. And what do you mean tick most boxes?, it doesn't matter who is better, what matters is who fits into the team. Grant Holt would've scored more goals than Torres last season if he was in our team, doesn't mean he's better than Torres, however if he did better then by all means it's a better choice to of had Grant Holt. That's just an example don't be getting that caught up into a comparison.

Cavani will help the team, Falcao will turn into another Torres if he doesn't do well here, because that's all goal poachers can do. We aren't such a creative team like you think we are, we need more people to track back and stay level headed, instead of people who are going to be setting up camp upfront all day.

I'm going to quote myself from the other thread to you "We can't just have Falcao and think everythings going to be all right cause it wont, our team needs a leader and a fighter up there right now, like Suarez is with Liverpool, the main man. At the moment we are lacking that main man in attack, Cavani is the right person and he could handle playing with quality with the likes of Lavezzi who he linked up with very well."

You haven't answered that yet, you keep bringing up about well one year ago i would've agreed.