Radamel Falcao

[The Skipper 20,593]

No. Torres is amazing on FIFA 13.

[Tricky 301]

Fucking bollocks... I don't deny his abilities but be real two minutes, Falcao's played thanks to two hard working wingers who stretch the opponent and opens him the intervals into the axis. Adrian and Turan aren't expected to hit double figures but just provide Falcao, with crosses, and force the opponent to play through the axis (and allow Falcao to pick every unsure pass).

Not a messiah at all, a very slight part of me expect Chelsea to sign Falcao to read/listen all the people who bashed Torres on "why does a £50m striker needs a specific animation etc..." realizing that if Falcao's a great poacher, he also needs specific service because the ball doesn't come magically onto his feet, it's put into the box whatever happens (reduce the other opportunities)

We just cannot imagine Falcao scoring 20 in half a season coming in January with Mata and Hazard cutting inside and fancy a go at goal to actually score (and not make a player scoring)

Falcao is very pleasant but I don't think he can be as successful in a big club he's been at Porto and especially Madrid. We cannot fall into an one-sided unidimensional animation because we can't rely on one player, it hinders what other players can do "on their own", and because Falcao isn't that all round.

I mean, playing the "unidimensional way" with Drogba is possible considering he was also incredible to shoot from everywhere, on the ball, giving a dozen of assists at least each season, crossing like nobody else... Falcao scored two brilliant goals in Europa Cups finals but he's not that good on the ball, to create chances. Likes to call the ball into the wings as well, suited for fastbreak

In my opinion, an on form Torres is one of the most all round strikers we can find at the moment: can vary his movements, can finish or create chances, can ask through space or back to goal, can play short combinasons or create with a through ball etc...

Not true, according to some on here all Falco has to do is turn up to score a goal. Hell he blows them out of his arse...?

Ps I agree with you.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Prove it.

Dont really need to. Just watch their behaviour.

[Tricky 301]

Dont really need to. Just watch their behaviour.

Easy to appear mentally strong when it's going well for you. Inner strength is tested when you've hit rock bottom.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Easy to appear mentally strong when it's going well for you. Inner strength is tested when you've hit rock bottom.

Some players never hit rock bottom. They do well, get better, play on top form as long their body strenghts allow that and then retire. Torres was done at age of 27, when he joined us or even half year before.

[Tricky 301]

Some players never hit rock bottom. They do well, get better, play on top form as long their body strenghts allow that and then retire. Torres was done at age of 27, when he joined us or even half year before.

You miss the point, you said "Falcao was mentally stonger than Torres" I said you "don't know that as he hadn't hit a major slump in form".

[termninja 5,290]

What I like about Falcao the most is what happens after he scores...he just explodes with his celebratinos and makes whole stadium go crazy!

Man simply shits testosterone

[.Cee 50]

All this guy needs is to hit a slump and it'll be Falcao-haters time. If we pay that much for him. So I say, stay away from us! Stay far away, for your own good.

[Stingray 9,441]

As long as our team will not gel together and have motivation, no striker in world will be good enough to lead the line. There are quality players behind Torres, but not world class. You cant expect from Mata and Hazard to be same like Iniesta and Xavi or Ozil and pass all the way to Torres who will then score from goal line. Also we play in england and our style against defensive teams with fast counters is defeat before game started. Why? Because two things: our defence is so slow that cant return back in time (barca has much faster players to compare). Second; Torres is getting very slow, on our counters he is nowhere, even Iva gets faster to other side. And its not just problem with Torres speed, but also Awarness, Positioning, instinct. He lacks all that. We dont have bad team, but formation and their positioning is realy bad.

I'm sorry, but this is some serious bs. We do have world class players behind him I think, Oscar and Hazard are not just good. Not established values yet,I agree, but there aren't that much of those around are there (messi and ronaldo are simply out of this world category).

Problem remains that Torres doesn't perform in the way you can expect a player like him to perform. Fact.

[.Cee 50]

What I like about Falcao the most is what happens after he scores...he just explodes with his celebratinos and makes whole stadium go crazy!

Man simply shits testosterone

Just for the new members here, I am not a fan-girl. I'm 28 years old, with 2 kids, and that is way too old to be a fan-girl. :blue scalf:

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I'm sorry, but this is some serious bs. We do have world class players behind him I think, Oscar and Hazard are not just good. Not established values yet,I agree, but there aren't that much of those around are there (messi and ronaldo are simply out of this world category).

Problem remains that Torres doesn't perform in the way you can expect a player like him to perform. Fact.

Come on, Oscar is fantastic talent, but not near Iniesta, Ozil, Xavi who I place as world class. I dont know how you rate world class players, but Oscar is not on Iniesta level, yet.

Hazard looks realy promising, but the big games will come and lets see how he and the rest play then. We cant place our opponent out of game by passing like barca does. Maybe few times, but not on regular basis like catalans.

[zolayes 14,489]

Just for the new members here, I am not a fan-girl. I'm 28 years old, with 2 kids, and that is way too old to be a fan-girl. :blue scalf:

NO youre never too old ... Im going to really start backing him so I can be called a "fangirl" what a pity Kalou has gone

[.Cee 50]

NO youre never too old ... Im going to really start backing him so I can be called a "fangirl" what a pity Kalou has gone

LOL. Let's start a TC Torres Fan-girl club...

[zolayes 14,489]

LOL. Let's start a TC Torres Fan-girl club...

your first day back and causing trouble ...

[termninja 5,290]

Just for the new members here, I am not a fan-girl. I'm 28 years old, with 2 kids, and that is way too old to be a fan-girl. :blue scalf:

Shame we see that once in a few months

And you missed my point, even when he scores he doesn't look like he used to in Liverpool or Atletico...only time I could see it it was for his first goal, Camp Nou goal and the one against Newcastle.

I don't want this to be taken the wrong way, I pretty much don't give a fuck what he does after he scores but I get annoyed when he doesn't score at all

[Las7 951]

Fucking bollocks... I don't deny his abilities but be real two minutes, Falcao's played thanks to two hard working wingers who stretch the opponent and opens him the intervals into the axis. Adrian and Turan aren't expected to hit double figures but just provide Falcao, with crosses, and force the opponent to play through the axis (and allow Falcao to pick every unsure pass).

Falcao also played next to Hulk, he played all types of games and with all types of teams - even against teams who parked the bus against Atletico and Porto whether it was in the League or the Europa League.

Not a messiah at all, a very slight part of me expect Chelsea to sign Falcao to read/listen all the people who bashed Torres on "why does a £50m striker needs a specific animation etc..." realizing that if Falcao's a great poacher, he also needs specific service because the ball doesn't come magically onto his feet, it's put into the box whatever happens (reduce the other opportunities)

If Falcao fails to score in his first 9 games and than fails to score in 24 hours of football this might become an issue - what the Torres saga has taught me is that fans back "particular" players for an infinite amount of time even though they obviously are not performing the duties which they were signed for. I don't know if it's golden hair or his price tag but the amount of support that Torres has received and continues to receive and the amount of excuses I hear here and in other forums is just starting to drive me mad. No other striker has been cut as much slack as Torres in my footballing life and I've been watching football since 1994 when I was 8 years old. Drogba a Chelsea Legend deserved this type of support, yet it's given to some mercenary who isn't doing what we bought him for, he isn't doing what is expected from a World Class striker, he isn't even taking shots or getting into position where a lucky ricochet might just allow him to put the ball in the back of the net. How many times have we crossed the ball with Torres either being marked out or not even in the box? I've personally lost count. Now I know crosses isn't the thing that Torres is looking for but for a player being paid 14 million pounds per year he better be in the box trying to beat his marker to the ball.

We just cannot imagine Falcao scoring 20 in half a season coming in January with Mata and Hazard cutting inside and fancy a go at goal to actually score (and not make a player scoring)

I can imagine Falcao scoring more winners in 6 months than Torres has done in 1 and half years at Chelsea FC - Torres has ONE winner, there is no excuse for such a pathetic statistic, you would expect such a thing from a guy like Mikel not from our FIRST CHOICE striker.

Falcao is very pleasant but I don't think he can be as successful in a big club he's been at Porto and especially Madrid. We cannot fall into an one-sided unidimensional animation because we can't rely on one player, it hinders what other players can do "on their own", and because Falcao isn't that all round.

Torres has had a chance at a big club and woopty do - him and Andy Carroll are the laughing stock of the Footballing World. At least Andy Carroll isn't the 7th highest paid footballer in the World and Liverpool will probably make back 50% of their investment - Torres is a footballing and financial void for this club and the sooner it's realized the better.

I mean, playing the "unidimensional way" with Drogba is possible considering he was also incredible to shoot from everywhere, on the ball, giving a dozen of assists at least each season, crossing like nobody else... Falcao scored two brilliant goals in Europa Cups finals but he's not that good on the ball, to create chances. Likes to call the ball into the wings as well, suited for fastbreak

Are you saying Torres is creating chances for himself?

Falcao must be quite fortuned play with the best teams ever since he is scoring for Colombia(0.4 goals per match); River Plate(0.44 goals per match); Porto(0.89 goals per match) and Atletico(0.82 goals per match); without making any chances for himself.

Meanwhile Torres with his much better chance creating skills plays at far worse teams

Spain(0.31 goals per match) the poster child of under performing National Teams, all strikers struggle there so much so that their coach plays some midfielder up top to keep possession.

Atletico(0.37 goals per match) - they couldn't even win a Europa League back when Torres played there, signed jokers like Forlan; Aguero and Faclao to replace Torres but they all failed there;

Liverpool(0.57 goals per match) waited for Torres to leave before winning a trophy;

Chelsea(0.21 goals per match) we kept him on the bench instead of starting him, otherwise we would have surely dominated Barca and Bayern.

In my opinion, an on form Torres is one of the most all round strikers we can find at the moment: can vary his movements, can finish or create chances, can ask through space or back to goal, can play short combinasons or create with a through ball etc...

In summery after reviewing the facts I completely agree, Torres is the best striker ever - as the last 2 years clearly prove. Even with limited opportunities to score and making only 79 appearances - Torres has set the World on Fire.

We clearly don't need to sign another striker because Torres is better than Rooney; RvP; Aguero; Tevez combined.

[Tricky 301]

Shame we see that once in a few months

And you missed my point, even when he scores he doesn't look like he used to in Liverpool or Atletico...only time I could see it it was for his first goal, Camp Nou goal and the one against Newcastle.

I don't want this to be taken the wrong way, I pretty much don't give a fuck what he does after he scores but I get annoyed when he doesn't score at all

At Looserpool The fans worshiped him, at Chelsea they mostly complain about the chance he missed ( well this forum anyway) rather than the goal he scored.

Seriously, have we got to the point where we complain about his goal celebration?

[Tricky 301]

Falcao also played next to Hulk, he played all types of games and with all types of teams - even against teams who parked the bus against Atletico and Porto whether it was in the League or the Europa League.

If Falcao fails to score in his first 9 games and than fails to score in 24 hours of football this might become an issue - what the Torres saga has taught me is that fans back "particular" players for an infinite amount of time even though they obviously are not performing the duties which they were signed for. I don't know if it's golden hair or his price tag but the amount of support that Torres has received and continues to receive and the amount of excuses I hear here and in other forums is just starting to drive me mad. No other striker has been cut as much slack as Torres in my footballing life and I've been watching football since 1994 when I was 8 years old. Drogba a Chelsea Legend deserved this type of support, yet it's given to some mercenary who isn't doing what we bought him for, he isn't doing what is expected from a World Class striker, he isn't even taking shots or getting into position where a lucky ricochet might just allow him to put the ball in the back of the net. How many times have we crossed the ball with Torres either being marked out or not even in the box? I've personally lost count. Now I know crosses isn't the thing that Torres is looking for but for a player being paid 14 million pounds per year he better be in the box trying to beat his marker to the ball.

I can imagine Falcao scoring more winners in 6 months than Torres has done in 1 and half years at Chelsea FC - Torres has ONE winner, there is no excuse for such a pathetic statistic, you would expect such a thing from a guy like Mikel not from our FIRST CHOICE striker.

Torres has had a chance at a big club and woopty do - him and Andy Carroll are the laughing stock of the Footballing World. At least Andy Carroll isn't the 7th highest paid footballer in the World and Liverpool will probably make back 50% of their investment - Torres is a footballing and financial void for this club and the sooner it's realized the better.

Are you saying Torres is creating chances for himself?

Falcao must be quite fortuned play with the best teams ever since he is scoring for Colombia(0.4 goals per match); River Plate(0.44 goals per match); Porto(0.89 goals per match) and Atletico(0.82 goals per match); without making any chances for himself.

Meanwhile Torres with his much better chance creating skills plays at far worse teams

Spain(0.31 goals per match) the poster child of under performing National Teams, all strikers struggle there so much so that their coach plays some midfielder up top to keep possession.

Atletico(0.37 goals per match) - they couldn't even win a Europa League back when Torres played there, signed jokers like Forlan; Aguero and Faclao to replace Torres but they all failed there;

Liverpool(0.57 goals per match) waited for Torres to leave before winning a trophy;

Chelsea(0.21 goals per match) we kept him on the bench instead of starting him, otherwise we would have surely dominated Barca and Bayern.

In summery after reviewing the facts I completely agree, Torres is the best striker ever - as the last 2 years clearly prove. Even with limited opportunities to score and making only 79 appearances - Torres has set the World on Fire.

We clearly don't need to sign another striker because Torres is better than Rooney; RvP; Aguero; Tevez combined.

Check out Drogbas PL history, he is not the Dogs... That some make him out to be.