Mufassir08 2,400 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Just imagine in 2 years time, Falcao in his prime + Lukaku the rising star...drolling... Dont know about lukaku tbh.I still think he needs 2 or 3 more years of regular football before returning to chelsea and fight for his place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 The problem with the "he'll sell kits" line is that anybody will sell kits so you have to measure the number of kits sold versus the potential number of kits sold of any other player. Unless the player is incredibly marketable (say, Messi or Ronaldo) or maybe opens up a market the way African and Asian players might (although I am dubious on that front as well) it doesn't really factor in for two reasons.1) Would they have bought the shirt with a different name? In most cases, yes.The vast majority of Chelsea supporters are due to their success rather than to any individual players being bought. How many new fans will Chelsea attract because of Falcao? I'd have to think...very few. This isn't a game-changer or anything.2) If Chelsea bought a cheaper player who has still successful, would they sell the same number of shirts? Let's say Chelsea bought Demba Ba and he scored goals for us, would he sell us any fewer shirts than Falcao? People were using the same argument for Hulk. I've never bought it. All I said was that we don't know and its correct. We don't know how many kits and stuff he will sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Chelsea officials have already flown to Madrid to open negotiations with Atletico over the transfer of Falcao #CFC (London Evening Standard)http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/falcao-in-and-sturridge-out-as-chelsea-plan-massive-transfer-spree-8425357.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,903 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Chelsea officials have already flown to Madrid to open negotiations with Atletico over the transfer of Falcao #CFC (London Evening Standard)http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/falcao-in-and-sturridge-out-as-chelsea-plan-massive-transfer-spree-8425357.htmlI wish I could enter a medically induced coma until the end of the window. I see articles like this and get my hopes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadenza666 221 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 But IMPORTANTLY the player has told the club that he wants to stay till the end of the season. Ideally he wants to decide where to move next by February or March, and he has told some team mates Madrid or London are his preferred destinations. the text we like to skip lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 You're just making stuff up. Liverpool MAY(don't trust quotes like this) have known about his knees. You didn't. Nobody did. Torres had scored 65 goals in 102 games at Liverpool including 18 in 22 the year before. . He started slowly for Liverpool after his surgery which was to be expected, but he was starting to come on well before we signed him. He scored 1 goal in his first 8 games in the Premier League and then 8 in 15 afterwards including killing us with two. He looked fabulous against us. His runs, his touches, his finishing. It looked like he was just coming back from surgery and was back to where he was before it.This idea that everyone knew that Torres was going to fail is revisionist nonsense. In fact, Torres was much more likely to succeed at that point than Falcao would be coming in as Torres had already proven himself in the Premier League-was PFA team of the year 2 of his 3 years at Liverpool. I never liked the signing because I hate January signings and huge dollar signings have a very high chance of failing, but Torres was still thought of as en elite striker at that point. I didn't have to know about his degenerative knees thats the job of our medical staff! I didn't want him because he looked slow and wasn't banging in goals. I'm not talking about 2-3 years before we bought him, I'm talking about the summer before we got him the the subsequent season that followed... HE WAS BRUTAL. Certainly not world class! What sense did it make to buy a striker who is coming off major knee surgery who isn't scoring at all? and for £50M at that???! It made no sense! Falcao is an entirely different beast all together he's scoring at a pace that rivals Messi and Ronaldo RIGHT NOW! He is singlehandedly lifting Atleti into a position where they could supplant a world beater in Real Madrid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I don't get it. People are getting excited about us paying 50m and 200k/wk for one player? We have the thinnest squad in the top 6 of our league. We could use that money to get 3-4 good players and solve a lot of problems. Besides don't we already have a striker that cost the same and with similar wages?!Funny how many people saying that Torres was done when we bought him because I don't remember a single person saying that back then. Same goes for Shevshencko who was a much better striker and all around player than Falcao.Point is Falcao can flop here and I don't think, we can afford that risk tbh. No we don't have any strikers. We have a loser whose being paid like a top striker and producing like a league one player. We need elite level talent not more middling depth, that is the difference between the top teams and the second tier which you'd like us to be strong in. Look at the top teams in the world and try and find one team that doesn't have an elite level player on high wages! Yes we fucked up massively on signing Torres but does that mean we shouldn't keep with the club's ambitions? Because we shit the bed on Torres everything should stop until he's gone? That's ludicrous! Chelsea's ambition as a club is bigger than a £50m investment. You say we can't afford him flopping, I say we can't afford to keep playing with a recognized in form striker. And with this notion of spreading the money around on other parts on the pitch isn't there a risk that those lesser investments could flop too? wouldn't we be in the exact same predicament now? The difference is if Falcao works out we could have the biggest match winner at CF on our team, a guy capable of winning matches on his own. That is invaluable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 You say we can't afford him flopping, I say we can't afford to keep playing with a recognized in form striker. And with this notion of spreading the money around on other parts on the pitch isn't there a risk that those lesser investments could flop too? wouldn't we be in the exact same predicament now? The difference is if Falcao works out we could have the biggest match winner at CF on our team, a guy capable of winning matches on his own. That is invaluable to me.Or we can invest that 50m and 200,000p/w into a bunch of quality players.We have a serious depth issue, as well as a striker issue. We can solve the striker issue without Falcao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Well, we know what the board are like. They see a world-class striker, a high asking price, get all starry-eyed and, well, we know the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Or we can invest that 50m and 200,000p/w into a bunch of quality players.We have a serious depth issue, as well as a striker issue. We can solve the striker issue without Falcao.I'm not sure depth is what we need right now. We don't have a single player in their prime... We need to acquire elite level talent to help our younger starlets mature at a reasonable pace. Currently there's just too much pressure on them.We don't need more Ramireses we need a big time performer to get us over the hump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 530 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Falcao and pjanic would be enough for us I believe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Pipi Estrada: "Falcao is signed for Chelsea" ( VIDEO!)http://www.intereconomia.com/noticias-/punto-pelota/pipi-estrada-falcao-fichado-por-chelsea-20121218 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valdo 583 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Is there a translation for that video ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDRECHO 432 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I`m sorry but to me falcao,fellaini,moutinho, in january is impossible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I'm not sure depth is what we need right now. We don't have a single player in their prime... We need to acquire elite level talent to help our younger starlets mature at a reasonable pace. Currently there's just too much pressure on them.We don't need more Ramireses we need a big time performer to get us over the hump.Every club needs depth. Splashing out on Falcao (and not buying any other players) isn't going to solve our midfield problems. Right now I think we need someone like Moutinho, whether we're going to continue with 4-2-3-1 or make the change to 4-3-3, he would be perfect. We someone who is going to link the defence to attack, someone who can control the tempo of the game. I think Oscar would be able to do this perfectly, but his positioning isn't yet good enough to perform the defensive aspect of that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Pipi Estrada: "Falcao is signed for Chelsea" ( VIDEO!)http://www.intereconomia.com/noticias-/punto-pelota/pipi-estrada-falcao-fichado-por-chelsea-20121218Sorry, this is just BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Every club needs depth. Splashing out on Falcao (and not buying any other players) isn't going to solve our midfield problems. Right now I think we need someone like Moutinho, whether we're going to continue with 4-2-3-1 or make the change to 4-3-3, he would be perfect. We someone who is going to link the defence to attack, someone who can control the tempo of the game. I think Oscar would be able to do this perfectly, but his positioning isn't yet good enough to perform the defensive aspect of that role.We won't have an attack without a striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 We won't have an attack without a striker.Yes, I know. I never said we shouldn't sign a striker. I just said that buying only a striker won't solve our problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Yes, I know. I never said we shouldn't sign a striker. I just said that buying only a striker won't solve our problems.Again, what makes you think buying Falcao means we won't get a midfielder? We have no clue where our financial outlook is at. I'm operating under the guise that the Board, if anything, are bean counters and will know if this is an investment we can handle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Again, what makes you think buying Falcao means we won't get a midfielder? We have no clue where our financial outlook is at. I'm operating under the guise that the Board, if anything, are bean counters and will know if this is an investment we can handleNothing makes me think that. I was just replying to when you said we don't need depth, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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