LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 And I agree about Cattermole - whenever an average English player has a good game against a bigger side, the media (Sky especially) ask why they're not playing for England. Remember Sky's hype about Delph last year when he scored against us in the away fixture?Yeah exactly lmao. There's always a 'flavour of the month/season/year' or whatever and it's the same calibre of players.. Cattermole, Shawcross, Delph, OSMAN FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Cattermole ,, Scott Parker ,, Sidwell ,,, ... not an ounce of creativity in the threeWhen Scott Parker was England captain facepalm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Only kidding lads, but I was surprised at how few chances you had. I think Mourhinio (sp) wants to go through the season unbeaten so was happy with the draw.Good luck for the rest of the season, hope you win it.good to know you are still alive ... oh Im quite pleased to be alive ( and Coughing ) as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Though, I don't buy into this Lee Cattermole to England nonsense. He's mediocre. The Arabic commentator was calling him "Lee Qatar-Mall"....I realize that that adds nothing to the discussion, just thought I'd throw it in there...Also, :doh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 This was the first real bus test we've had this season in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 This was the first real bus test we've had this season in my opinion.We've done well against teams who park the bus at Stamford Bridge but we did so last year too (mostly anyway).Our biggest test is the matches away to the smaller sides IMO as that's where we lost the league last season. We've had 3 so far - Burnley where we did well after conceding against an admittedly very poor side, Crystal Palace where we were lucky not to concede in the opening 5 minutes and eventually won largely thanks to a moment of individiual brilliance from Oscar (first goal is so, so important) and yesterday's game where we failed.We've got plenty of these types of games to come, including Newcastle away next week which I'm dreading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 We've done well against teams who park the bus at Stamford Bridge but we did so last year too (mostly anyway).Our biggest test is the matches away to the smaller sides IMO as that's where we lost the league last season. We've had 3 so far - Burnley where we did well after conceding against an admittedly very poor side, Crystal Palace where we were lucky not to concede in the opening 5 minutes and eventually won largely thanks to a moment of individiual brilliance from Oscar (first goal is so, so important) and yesterday's game where we failed.We've got plenty of these types of games to come, including Newcastle away next week which I'm dreading.All due respect to Burnley but they don't have the quality of player to be able to defend as well as Sunderland did yesterday. I think there are few more teams in the league capable of defending like that (Newcastle, West Ham, Stoke) so it'll be interesting to see how those games pan out. Newcastle at the weekend is going to be pretty similar to the Sunderland game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee25 1,044 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 All due respect to Burnley but they don't have the quality of player to be able to defend as well as Sunderland did yesterday. I think there are few more teams in the league capable of defending like that (Newcastle, West Ham, Stoke) so it'll be interesting to see how those games pan out. Newcastle at the weekend is going to be pretty similar to the Sunderland game.Yes you're right that those teams are capable of defending as well as Sunderland did yesterday, but I think @The Chels makes a good point that in home games against these teams, we tend to do alright. Last season we breezed past Newcastle and Stoke at the Bridge and against West Ham, we actually created a good number of chances but our finishing was just hilariously poor. Our problem is when we play these teams away from home. That's where we struggled massively last season. Villa away, Crystal Palace away, Stoke away, Newcastle away - those were all fixtures we lost and we would have lost away to Sunderland last season were it not for an inspired performance by Hazard. Whether it's the tactics, the lack of recovery pace in central defence, maybe the mentality - I don't know what it is but there's something about the way the team is setup that isn't conducive to breaking down those sort of teams away from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Yes you're right that those teams are capable of defending as well as Sunderland did yesterday, but I think @The Chels makes a good point that in home games against these teams, we tend to do alright. Last season we breezed past Newcastle and Stoke at the Bridge and against West Ham, we actually created a good number of chances but our finishing was just hilariously poor. Our problem is when we play these teams away from home. That's where we struggled massively last season. Villa away, Crystal Palace away, Stoke away, Newcastle away - those were all fixtures we lost and we would have lost away to Sunderland last season were it not for an inspired performance by Hazard. Whether it's the tactics, the lack of recovery pace in central defence, maybe the mentality - I don't know what it is but there's something about the way the team is setup that isn't conducive to breaking down those sort of teams away from home.It could be all those things and a few more (lack of width particularly). We start quite slow too - the opening 30 minutes at Anfield was awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballover 222 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I think it's early to judge our away form against the smaller sides just yet, because as Styles has said - it was our real first test this season against a kind of team that cost us our last one. Actually, it was our real first blooper in the league this season and only the second in all competitions if you count the Maribor game. It can still be a one time thing.I really think that the fact that we had an away CL fixture in midweek was crucial, add to that the great form of Sunderland yesterday and I think that not many teams would have gotten away with more than we have. It's a fair result and a win against the Spuds will certainly put things back in order. We will have a similar test next weekend and we will see what we are made of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu35_army 551 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 After getting hammered 8 nil at Southampton we've had to start our season again, at the moment it's just important that we don't get beat. Chelsea will win the title and looking back this will be an decent point for you lot as we'll probably take points off other top sides at the SOL. Lets just hope we don't need to win the last game of the season to stay up BTW - over 45,000 there today and I was impressed by how many you brought.your black cats have a great game mate. my wishes you can take points from city too,,maybe 3 points...[emoji9] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Same game we were with 10 men and 2 goals down in a Champions league semi final. Hardly comparable.What about the first leg? The cl final? Anfield last season? OT last season? Vincente calderon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Has a semi final 3 days later? Most of the squad was subs. You had your full team at home in the league during the first third of the season. Id be disgusted is Chelsea played like that at home. Is this supposed to be a joke? What did we do against barca in the semi at the bridge!!!???Also, the difference in class of teams we have "parked the bus" against (barca, bayern, liverpool, united, city) is far far less than the difference in class of chelsea and sunderland currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackredandWhite 171 Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 Is this supposed to be a joke? What did we do against barca in the semi at the bridge!!!???Also, the difference in class of teams we have "parked the bus" against (barca, bayern, liverpool, united, city) is far far less than the difference in class of chelsea and sunderland currently.Which is the reason why Jose is probably the best manager in the world, other great managers struggle to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Which is the reason why Jose is probably the best manager in the world, other great managers struggle to do this. Could you park the bus against City ,, but also get a couple of goals as well ... remember the old Roker Roar . Incidentally you were called the original Bank of England Club ,,, ask your Dad about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 We have absolutely no right to criticize any side parking the bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Von Doom 258 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Only kidding lads, but I was surprised at how few chances you had. I think Mourhinio (sp) wants to go through the season unbeaten so was happy with the draw.Good luck for the rest of the season, hope you win it.Congrats. U earned a well deserved point w/ a gr8 def performanceYeah exactly lmao. There's always a 'flavour of the month/season/year' or whatever and it's the same calibre of players.. Cattermole, Shawcross, Delph, OSMAN FFS Last ssn: Adam Johnson LOLWe have absolutely no right to criticize any side parking the bus. Parking the bus >It gets other club's fans so mad LOL. I love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackredandWhite 171 Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 Could you park the bus against City ,, but also get a couple of goals as well ... remember the old Roker Roar . Incidentally you were called the original Bank of England Club ,,, ask your Dad about itI know, we used to be good a long time ago...Mind we've won the title 6 times, which puts us 6th successful club of all time (ahead of Chelsea ). Pity the last of them was in the 30's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Yeah exactly lmao. There's always a 'flavour of the month/season/year' or whatever and it's the same calibre of players.. Cattermole, Shawcross, Delph, OSMAN FFS Cattermole does what he needs to well though. Not very dynamic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackredandWhite 171 Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 Cattermole does what he needs to well though. Not very dynamic.He's been brilliant for us for a while now and he's nowhere near as dirty as is made out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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