Tiwaz 539 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 As far as I know the Ballon d'or is an individual award, not an award for a player of the best team. I do agree that team results should be taken into account, as helping your team win the champions league for example is a very good accomplishment. But when another player just towers above any other player with his individual results, than in my opinion that player deserves is 100%.Congrats Ronaldo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 i dont get this argument... since RM as a team failed to win anything it should mean that CR as a player who plays the same position as ribery and has scored 7 times the no. of goals in the year does not deserve the ballon dor? what the fuck!!!!bayern munich won the CL and the bundesliga and the german cup and the super cup and the club world cup. ribery was a part of that team but INDIVIDUALLY CR thulped it. its like saying that if messi/CR go to fulham, score 50 goals, win jack squat, then their performances mean nothing since the their team has not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 You'd think the best player of the year, playing for the most expensive team ever assembled would be able to win a few trophies. Apparently not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 well if the "most expensive" team assembled is done by using the logic of sell ozil and buy bale inspite of having 2 world class wingers in CR and di maria but just a 21 year old kid as a CAM (who by the way is sitting on the bench now), then u can hardly expect them to win something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 well if the "most expensive" team assembled is done by using the logic of sell ozil and buy bale inspite of having 2 world class wingers in CR and di maria but just a 21 year old kid as a CAM (who by the way is sitting on the bench now), then u can hardly expect them to win something. Yes a team comprised of CRonaldo, Bale, Benzema, Di Maria, Isco, Alonso, Marcelo, Varane, Khedira, Casillas, Ramos, Modric can hardly be expected to win a single trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Yes a team comprised of CRonaldo, Bale, Benzema, Di Maria, Isco, Alonso, Marcelo, Varane, Khedira, Casillas, Ramos, Modric can hardly be expected to win a single trophy.last season they were the finalists of copa del ray, gathered a MASSIVE 85 points in the league but still lost the league to barca, and were the semi-finalists of CL. u would hardly call it a "poor season" but thats the expectations that come with RM.also it was a team which was in dispute with its manager who had totally lost the dressing room. there seemed no cohesion in the team.but seems perfectly fair to deny CR the ballon d'or cos of shitty defensive performances by pepe and ramos against BVB to let in 4 goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 last season they were the finalists of copa del ray, gathered a MASSIVE 85 points in the league but still lost the league to barca, and were the semi-finalists of CL. u would hardly call it a "poor season" but thats the expectations that come with RM.also it was a team which was in dispute with its manager who had totally lost the dressing room. there seemed no cohesion in the team.but seems perfectly fair to deny CR the ballon d'or cos of shitty defensive performances by pepe and ramos against BVB to let in 4 goals. I agree that CR deserve balon d'or but last year he was one of the main problem for RM.I haven't watched Real at all this season so I don't know about this season, but last year one of RM main problems was their left side, every team knows that you want to attack CR side because he does not really want to defend ( I remember Jurgen Klopp even mentioned it in his interview).Against poorer side, it is not a problem but against good team like BVB it was a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (Mods add the complete nominations list please, I'm on mobile)Courtois, Hazard and Costa among the 23 man shortlist. Only 2 other PL players - Yaya, di Maria.Ronaldo and Simeone have to win, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 http://www.espnfc.com/international-friendly/story/2113523/fifa-unveils-shortlist-of-23-candidates-for-this-years-ballon-dor23 contenders for Ballon d'Or:Gareth BaleKarim BenzemaDiego CostaThibaut CourtoisAngel Di MariaMario GotzeEden HazardZlatan IbrahimovicAndres IniestaToni KroosPhilipp LahmJavier MascheranoLionel MessiThomas MullerManuel NeuerNeymarPaul PogbaSergio RamosArjen RobbenJames RodriguezCristiano RonaldoBastian SchweinsteigerYaya Toure10 contenders for Coach of the Year:Carlo AncelottiAntonio ContePep GuardiolaJurgen KlinsmannJoachim LowJose MourinhoManuel PellegriniAlejandro SabellaDiego SimeoneLouis van Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (Mods add the complete nominations list please, I'm on mobile)Courtois, Hazard and Costa among the 23 man shortlist. Only 2 other PL players - Yaya, di Maria.Ronaldo and Simeone have to win, surely?You're just lazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 You're just lazy! Guilty as charged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Should be Di Maria or Neuer but will be Ronaldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 And James looks sooo out of place on that list it's not even funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 http://www.espnfc.com/international-friendly/story/2113523/fifa-unveils-shortlist-of-23-candidates-for-this-years-ballon-dor23 contenders for Ballon d'Or:Gareth BaleKarim BenzemaDiego CostaThibaut CourtoisAngel Di MariaMario GotzeEden HazardZlatan IbrahimovicAndres IniestaToni KroosPhilipp LahmJavier MascheranoLionel MessiThomas MullerManuel NeuerNeymarPaul PogbaSergio RamosArjen RobbenJames RodriguezCristiano RonaldoBastian SchweinsteigerYaya Toure10 contenders for Coach of the Year:Carlo AncelottiAntonio ContePep GuardiolaJurgen KlinsmannJoachim LowJose MourinhoManuel PellegriniAlejandro SabellaDiego SimeoneLouis van Gaalweres suarez?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Away being put down by the RSPCA, hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Away being put down by the RSPCA, hopefullyhahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 No Suarez. Ronaldo deserves it. Iniesta!? LMAOOOO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Penaldo will surely win it. should be Neuer even though I hate the one arrogant shithead just as much as the other one, u have to admire their ambition, drive and commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 James had a great world cup. But it's so unfair to guys like Silva, Suarez that they miss out. Goetze same thing. He's a good player but he wasn't a pivotal player for Bayern or Germany. World cup performances hold too much weight imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Ronaldo and cholo hands down. Not even a competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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