Madmax 9,219 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (Mods add the complete nominations list please, I'm on mobile)Courtois, Hazard and Costa among the 23 man shortlist. Only 2 other PL players - Yaya, di Maria.Ronaldo and Simeone have to win, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 http://www.espnfc.com/international-friendly/story/2113523/fifa-unveils-shortlist-of-23-candidates-for-this-years-ballon-dor23 contenders for Ballon d'Or:Gareth BaleKarim BenzemaDiego CostaThibaut CourtoisAngel Di MariaMario GotzeEden HazardZlatan IbrahimovicAndres IniestaToni KroosPhilipp LahmJavier MascheranoLionel MessiThomas MullerManuel NeuerNeymarPaul PogbaSergio RamosArjen RobbenJames RodriguezCristiano RonaldoBastian SchweinsteigerYaya Toure10 contenders for Coach of the Year:Carlo AncelottiAntonio ContePep GuardiolaJurgen KlinsmannJoachim LowJose MourinhoManuel PellegriniAlejandro SabellaDiego SimeoneLouis van Gaal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (Mods add the complete nominations list please, I'm on mobile)Courtois, Hazard and Costa among the 23 man shortlist. Only 2 other PL players - Yaya, di Maria.Ronaldo and Simeone have to win, surely?You're just lazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 You're just lazy! Guilty as charged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Should be Di Maria or Neuer but will be Ronaldo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 And James looks sooo out of place on that list it's not even funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 http://www.espnfc.com/international-friendly/story/2113523/fifa-unveils-shortlist-of-23-candidates-for-this-years-ballon-dor23 contenders for Ballon d'Or:Gareth BaleKarim BenzemaDiego CostaThibaut CourtoisAngel Di MariaMario GotzeEden HazardZlatan IbrahimovicAndres IniestaToni KroosPhilipp LahmJavier MascheranoLionel MessiThomas MullerManuel NeuerNeymarPaul PogbaSergio RamosArjen RobbenJames RodriguezCristiano RonaldoBastian SchweinsteigerYaya Toure10 contenders for Coach of the Year:Carlo AncelottiAntonio ContePep GuardiolaJurgen KlinsmannJoachim LowJose MourinhoManuel PellegriniAlejandro SabellaDiego SimeoneLouis van Gaalweres suarez?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Away being put down by the RSPCA, hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Away being put down by the RSPCA, hopefullyhahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 No Suarez. Ronaldo deserves it. Iniesta!? LMAOOOO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Penaldo will surely win it. should be Neuer even though I hate the one arrogant shithead just as much as the other one, u have to admire their ambition, drive and commitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 James had a great world cup. But it's so unfair to guys like Silva, Suarez that they miss out. Goetze same thing. He's a good player but he wasn't a pivotal player for Bayern or Germany. World cup performances hold too much weight imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Ronaldo and cholo hands down. Not even a competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Has to be Muller, Costa, or Lahm. Simeone wins coach of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Has to be Muller, Costa, or Lahm. Simeone wins coach of the year.You know Ronaldo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 You know Ronaldo?Hue hue hue, u r so funny. A condescending rhetorical question seasoned with a little sarcams. jajajajajajaHe is good but is he even important? Portugal were awful in the world cup, he lost the league, Supercopa de Espana and scored a consolation goal in the CL final. He didn't score or assist in the Copa del Rey final. Not the best player in the world.Bale scored more important goals than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Hue hue hue, u r so funny. A condescending rhetorical question seasoned with a little sarcams. jajajajajajaHe is good but is he even important? Portugal were awful in the world cup, he lost the league, Supercopa de Espana and scored a consolation goal in the CL final. He didn't score or assist in the Copa del Rey final. Not the best player in the world.Bale scored more important goals than him.17 goals in CL. Leading scorer on CL winners and Copa Del Rey winners. Leading goalscorer in La Liga. Got Portugal to the WC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Hue hue hue, u r so funny. A condescending rhetorical question seasoned with a little sarcams. jajajajajajaHe is good but is he even important? Portugal were awful in the world cup, he lost the league, Supercopa de Espana and scored a consolation goal in the CL final. He didn't score or assist in the Copa del Rey final. Not the best player in the world.Bale scored more important goals than him.Same could be said about Costa who you suggested. Spain were awful in the world cup. Didn't score in the CL final. Didn't score in the Semi's of Copa Del Rey over 2 legs. Didn't score in Supercopa De Espana. Not the best player in the world.Ronaldo is more deserving than Costa or Muller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 James had a great world cup. But it's so unfair to guys like Silva, Suarez that they miss out. Goetze same thing. He's a good player but he wasn't a pivotal player for Bayern or Germany. World cup performances hold too much weight imo.As it should IMO. Performances in the highest stage of football should be worth more than in domestic leagues or, let's say, friendlies. Even if, the whole package considered, you are individually worse than player X, if you performed better than X when it mattered and led your team to victory, you should be held in higher regard.It's like Kaka in 2007. Kaka is a great player but he was not individually the best player in the world in 2007, he was the player that performed the best in matches of the highest importance that year, he was the player that showed up the most when the team really needed him, there's a slight difference if that makes sense. When everything was at stake he absolutely destroyed Manchester United and Cristiano Ronaldo, who was the strongest contender IMO. Kaka and also Seedorf who played out of his mind in the latest stages of that UCL.I believe the prize should put even greater emphasis on team success in important tournaments than it does as of now, because it encourages team work. You must play in a way that improves the chances of leading your side to victory whether you bag loads of goals and assists or not. Winning as a team should be of the utmost importance even for individual prizes, just so even the CR7's and Messi's care about team balance, about defending, about marking, and not only about being flashy or hitting 3 digits of goals and assists. A Ballon D'Or winner should come from at least one of the finalists in UCL or World Cup, with rare exceptions. Continuing this train of thought, I honestly find it a disgrace to the game that CR7 takes so many shots per game, it's simply not possible that every single one of those attempts were the best option available for him at the time he made them. IMO that kind of overly selfish attitude should be discouraged from football and one of the ways in doing that is not giving individual awards to players performing like that. I also think players who dive/cheat too much should not even make the list. The prize should be used to improve the sport more so than for awarding individual prowess which worsen it. But that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 As it should IMO. Performances in the highest stage of football should be worth more than in domestic leagues or, let's say, friendlies. Even if, the whole package considered, you are individually worse than player X, if you performed better than X when it mattered and led your team to victory, you should be held in higher regard.It's like Kaka in 2007. Kaka is a great player but he was not individually the best player in the world in 2007, he was the player that performed the best in matches of the highest importance that year, he was the player that showed up the most when the team really needed him, there's a slight difference if that makes sense. When everything was at stake he absolutely destroyed Manchester United and Cristiano Ronaldo, who was the strongest contender IMO. Kaka and also Seedorf who played out of his mind in the latest stages of that UCL.I believe the prize should put even greater emphasis on team success in important tournaments than it does as of now, because it encourages team work. You must play in a way that improves the chances of leading your side to victory whether you bag loads of goals and assists or not. Winning as a team should be of the utmost importance even for individual prizes, just so even the CR7's and Messi's care about team balance, about defending, about marking, and not only about being flashy or hitting 3 digits of goals and assists. A Ballon D'Or winner should come from at least one of the finalists in UCL or World Cup, with rare exceptions. Continuing this train of thought, I honestly find it a disgrace to the game that CR7 takes so many shots per game, it's simply not possible that every single one of those attempts were the best option available for him at the time he made them. IMO that kind of overly selfish attitude should be discouraged from football and of the ways in doing that is not giving individual awards to players performing like that. I also think players who dive/cheat too much should not even make the list. The prize should be used to improve the sport more so than for awarding individual prowess which worsen it. But that's just me.Bale it is then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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