Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 What is cr7 really better than messi at? Aerial ability.Cutting in and shooting 10x a game/shot power.Cant think of any other attribute cr7 is better than messi in...Also, i meant the single season recordHeading and step overs. Ronaldo loves them step overs considering they rarely work and just make him look like a mug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 What is cr7 really better than messi at? Aerial ability.Cutting in and shooting 10x a game/shot power.Cant think of any other attribute cr7 is better than messi in...Also, i meant the single season recordHe is better shooting from distance, In the air, physically, defensively.But again i said right now. When both are at their best then you can pick whoever. But right now it's not even close and Ronaldo is in better form than Messi is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Heading and step overs. Ronaldo loves them step overs considering they rarely work and just make him look like a mug. So just aerial ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Courtois Ivanovic---Terry----Varane Matic Fabregas-------Modric James Bale-----------------Hazard Ronaldo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 He is better shooting from distance, In the air, physically, defensively.But again i said right now. When both are at their best then you can pick whoever. But right now it's not even close and Ronaldo is in better form than Messi is.Physically? How many times has Ronaldo been knocked to the ground compared to Messi? Messi's low centre of gravity has him rarely on the ground and even competes with very large footballers in aerial battles. Look at 2010 vs Maicon, completely battered the lad. Again, Ronaldo's form is purely based on goal scoring instincts. Since when has 'insert amount of goals you scored' determine who is the better footballer? This isn't directed at you but you don't need to watch youtube videos or listen to statistics to find a better understanding, just sit down and watch them both. It is ever so blatant that Messi's overall game is on a whole other level. BTW, West ham scored their 2nd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 He is better shooting from distance, In the air, physically, defensively.But again i said right now. When both are at their best then you can pick whoever. But right now it's not even close and Ronaldo is in better form than Messi is.Defensively?Physical? You mean aerial ability because cr7 is not physical. He is one of the best divers in the world. Messi massive lower body is second to none Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Defensively?Physical? You mean aerial ability because cr7 is not physical. He is one of the best divers in the world.Messi massive lower body is second to noneHe is better defensively so i mean defensively. And it depends on your definition. Messi is the better dribbler obviously. It's the same as Hazard as he has the lower centre of gravity enabling him to cut and make turns quicker.He dives to get free kicks like they all do, but in terms of strength he is more physical, which helps with his defensive and ariel ability.Physically? How many times has Ronaldo been knocked to the ground compared to Messi? Messi's low centre of gravity has him rarely on the ground and even competes with very large footballers in aerial battles. Look at 2010 vs Maicon, completely battered the lad. Again, Ronaldo's form is purely based on goal scoring instincts. Since when has 'insert amount of goals you scored' determine who is the better footballer? This isn't directed at you but you don't need to watch youtube videos or listen to statistics to find a better understanding, just sit down and watch them both. It is ever so blatant that Messi's overall game is on a whole other level. BTW, West ham scored their 2nd!I'm arguing on form right now and i would still say ronaldo on form because Messi hasn't performed to the best of his exceptional ability as much recently.And i'm not even sure why i'm even in this debate because i don't really care lol. Both are amazing. Hazard is better than both of them though obv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 ------------Diego Costa----------Ronaldo---Fabregas-----Bale---------Matic-------Modric------Filipe Luis-----------------Ivanovic----------Terry------Varane--------------------------Cech-------------------Hard to leave out Hazard, but this is the ideal team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Modric would always start on every team. Today was a prime example why he is the best cm right now. People can talk about cesc assists, but el clasico is a prime example why modric will always be the better cm than Cesc. And James was a beast... Hazard as cam? Nah, ill take James..Both these guys tactical are fantastic and their work rate along with going forward is amazing... Still think real going to get shitted on in champs league, but thats a different question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I saw a lot of teams without modric. Wow, he's so underrated here. Courtois Ivan pepe varane Luis Matic modric Fabregas Hazard Costa Ronaldo Well even after the classico my team still looks good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Modric would always start on every team. Today was a prime example why he is the best cm right now. People can talk about cesc assists, but el clasico is a prime example why modric will always be the better cm than Cesc. And James was a beast... Hazard as cam? Nah, ill take James..Both these guys tactical are fantastic and their work rate along with going forward is amazing... Still think real going to get shitted on in champs league, but thats a different question.Oscar can't do what James does? Modric was fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Oscar can't do what James does?Modric was fantastic.Oscar can, but James is the politcally correct choice, since this board would tell me how if oscar starts as cam, than hazard should start in the combined 11 instead because he is "better."Realistically, I would choose oscar or james over hazard as cam to provide balance and modric over cesc because modric can handle the press and tactically is probably one of the best players in the world... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 You really can't deny an in form Marcelo. Looked like his usual self today and he was amazing.Modric is brilliant. Such class and intelligence on the ball combined with such a huge engine. Made Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets look like some fat dudes on mobility scooters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Oscar can, but James is the politcally correct choice, since this board would tell me how if oscar starts as cam, than hazard should start in the combined 11 instead because he is "better."If you're making an XI of the best, Hazard makes it. If the goal is to find an XI that would play together in a system, Oscar or James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 You really can't deny an in form Marcelo. Looked like his usual self today and he was amazing.Modric is brilliant. Such class and intelligence on the ball combined with such a huge engine. Made Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets look like some fat dudes on mobility scooters.exactly.. Luis would not start over an inform marcelo. Marcelo inform is the best lb in the world, attacking wise at least. Nor would cesc start over Modric...Cesc improved chelsea tremendously, but Modric would of made chelsea even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Oscar can't do what James does?Modric was fantastic.James has the stronger offensive contribution though. Oscar is not there yet.exactly.. Luis would not start over an inform marcelo. Marcelo inform is the best lb in the world, attacking wise at least. Nor would cesc start over Modric...Cesc improved chelsea tremendously, but Modric would of made chelsea even better.I think the team needed Cesc more than they would need Modric though. With Oscar at #10 (Willian/Schurrle on the wing), a chance creator like Cesc was really needed in the team. And his long-range passing is very important as well.R. Madrid is a different case (different playing style, different players). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 James has the stronger offensive contribution though. Oscar is not there yet.I think the team needed Cesc more than they would need Modric though. With Oscar at #10 (Willian/Schurrle on the wing), a chance creator like Cesc was really needed in the team. And his long-range passing is very important as well.R. Madrid is a different case (different playing style, different players).true. However, Modric is no slouch with chances created and his longshot ability is world class...He would also do set pieces... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 You really can't deny an in form Marcelo. Looked like his usual self today and he was amazing.Modric is brilliant. Such class and intelligence on the ball combined with such a huge engine. Made Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets look like some fat dudes on mobility scooters.It's just one game and he was up against a tactically disorganised Barcelona side. No one tracked back to help Dani Alves, (a player on decline). Marcelo for all his brilliance going forward is still a very poor man to man defender. I won't get excited over one game against a tactically poor defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 It's just one game and he was up against a tactically disorganised Barcelona side. No one tracked back to help Dani Alves, (a player on decline). Marcelo for all his brilliance going forward is still a very poor man to man defender. I won't get excited over one game against a tactically poor defense.It's not just this game though. Marcelo was strong under Mourinho, bar the first year, and the same last season. Though he struggled a bit with injuries. Remember his performance when he came in against Atletico in the CL final? He was fantastic. He was poor at the World Cup though.Marcelo will never be the strongest defender but in his usual form, he's more than decent. Couple that with his offensive abilities and you have a great fullback. Of course, if you're looking for a strong defender, you're not going with Marcelo. But for an attacking team, a player like Marcelo is an huge asset.Besides, Marcelo doesn't have it easy either. For years, Cristiano was in front of him and he hardly tracks back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 CourtoisIva varane Jt coentraoCesc matic modricBale costa CRThe most balanced formation would be 4-3-3 and hence hazard won't make the cut (sadly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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