Combined Real Madrid/Chelsea XI

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

What is cr7 really better than messi at?

Aerial ability.

Cutting in and shooting 10x a game/shot power.

Cant think of any other attribute cr7 is better than messi in...

Also, i meant the single season record

Heading and step overs. Ronaldo loves them step overs considering they rarely work and just make him look like a mug.

[Hutcho 8,443]

What is cr7 really better than messi at?

Aerial ability.

Cutting in and shooting 10x a game/shot power.

Cant think of any other attribute cr7 is better than messi in...

Also, i meant the single season record

He is better shooting from distance, In the air, physically, defensively.

But again i said right now. When both are at their best then you can pick whoever. But right now it's not even close and Ronaldo is in better form than Messi is.

[Nike 373]

Heading and step overs. Ronaldo loves them step overs considering they rarely work and just make him look like a mug.

So just aerial ability.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

Courtois

Ivanovic---Terry----Varane

Matic

Fabregas-------Modric

James

Bale-----------------Hazard

Ronaldo

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

He is better shooting from distance, In the air, physically, defensively.

But again i said right now. When both are at their best then you can pick whoever. But right now it's not even close and Ronaldo is in better form than Messi is.

Physically? How many times has Ronaldo been knocked to the ground compared to Messi? Messi's low centre of gravity has him rarely on the ground and even competes with very large footballers in aerial battles. Look at 2010 vs Maicon, completely battered the lad.

Again, Ronaldo's form is purely based on goal scoring instincts. Since when has 'insert amount of goals you scored' determine who is the better footballer? This isn't directed at you but you don't need to watch youtube videos or listen to statistics to find a better understanding, just sit down and watch them both.

It is ever so blatant that Messi's overall game is on a whole other level.

BTW, West ham scored their 2nd!

[Nike 373]

He is better shooting from distance, In the air, physically, defensively.

But again i said right now. When both are at their best then you can pick whoever. But right now it's not even close and Ronaldo is in better form than Messi is.

Defensively?

Physical? You mean aerial ability because cr7 is not physical. He is one of the best divers in the world.

Messi massive lower body is second to none

[Hutcho 8,443]

Defensively?

Physical? You mean aerial ability because cr7 is not physical. He is one of the best divers in the world.

Messi massive lower body is second to none

He is better defensively so i mean defensively. And it depends on your definition. Messi is the better dribbler obviously. It's the same as Hazard as he has the lower centre of gravity enabling him to cut and make turns quicker.

He dives to get free kicks like they all do, but in terms of strength he is more physical, which helps with his defensive and ariel ability.

Physically? How many times has Ronaldo been knocked to the ground compared to Messi? Messi's low centre of gravity has him rarely on the ground and even competes with very large footballers in aerial battles. Look at 2010 vs Maicon, completely battered the lad.

Again, Ronaldo's form is purely based on goal scoring instincts. Since when has 'insert amount of goals you scored' determine who is the better footballer? This isn't directed at you but you don't need to watch youtube videos or listen to statistics to find a better understanding, just sit down and watch them both.

It is ever so blatant that Messi's overall game is on a whole other level.

BTW, West ham scored their 2nd!

I'm arguing on form right now and i would still say ronaldo on form because Messi hasn't performed to the best of his exceptional ability as much recently.

And i'm not even sure why i'm even in this debate because i don't really care lol. Both are amazing. Hazard is better than both of them though obv.

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

------------Diego Costa----------

Ronaldo---Fabregas-----Bale

---------Matic-------Modric------

Filipe Luis-----------------Ivanovic

----------Terry------Varane---------

-----------------Cech-------------------

Hard to leave out Hazard, but this is the ideal team.

[Nike 373]

Modric would always start on every team. Today was a prime example why he is the best cm right now. People can talk about cesc assists, but el clasico is a prime example why modric will always be the better cm than Cesc.

And James was a beast... Hazard as cam? Nah, ill take James..

Both these guys tactical are fantastic and their work rate along with going forward is amazing... Still think real going to get shitted on in champs league, but thats a different question.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

I saw a lot of teams without modric. Wow, he's so underrated here.

Courtois

Ivan pepe varane Luis

Matic modric

Fabregas

Hazard Costa Ronaldo

Well even after the classico my team still looks good

[iseah100 5,612]

Modric would always start on every team. Today was a prime example why he is the best cm right now. People can talk about cesc assists, but el clasico is a prime example why modric will always be the better cm than Cesc.

And James was a beast... Hazard as cam? Nah, ill take James..

Both these guys tactical are fantastic and their work rate along with going forward is amazing... Still think real going to get shitted on in champs league, but thats a different question.

Oscar can't do what James does?

Modric was fantastic.

[Nike 373]

Oscar can't do what James does?

Modric was fantastic.

Oscar can, but James is the politcally correct choice, since this board would tell me how if oscar starts as cam, than hazard should start in the combined 11 instead because he is "better."

Realistically, I would choose oscar or james over hazard as cam to provide balance and modric over cesc because modric can handle the press and tactically is probably one of the best players in the world...

[DYC. 7,542]

You really can't deny an in form Marcelo. Looked like his usual self today and he was amazing.

Modric is brilliant. Such class and intelligence on the ball combined with such a huge engine. Made Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets look like some fat dudes on mobility scooters.

[iseah100 5,612]

Oscar can, but James is the politcally correct choice, since this board would tell me how if oscar starts as cam, than hazard should start in the combined 11 instead because he is "better."

If you're making an XI of the best, Hazard makes it. If the goal is to find an XI that would play together in a system, Oscar or James.

[Nike 373]

You really can't deny an in form Marcelo. Looked like his usual self today and he was amazing.

Modric is brilliant. Such class and intelligence on the ball combined with such a huge engine. Made Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets look like some fat dudes on mobility scooters.

exactly.. Luis would not start over an inform marcelo. Marcelo inform is the best lb in the world, attacking wise at least.

Nor would cesc start over Modric...Cesc improved chelsea tremendously, but Modric would of made chelsea even better.