CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I don't think we need "one for the future", we have plenty of those in the CB department. CB is the only position where I felt we weakened over the summer. JT is not getting any younger, the new system makes it impossible for Cahill to have as good a season as last, and we sold David Luiz without getting a replacement (no, Zouma is Kalas' replacement in the squad, at least for this season).Hence, I think we need a CB who is a finished article and who will be ready to lead our defense (don't mean captain, but rather organize) in a year or two. I like Jones, but he'll need a lot of work to get his career back on track and is a bit of a gamble. Of course it would be great if we can get an established CB, but since not a lot of those are available on the market, I'd give a shout to Ranocchia. I've always admired him and I think he would be great value for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Omeruo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdb2005 12 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 We have plenty of outstanding young CB's, I hope one of them will make it here: Zouma, Kalas, Omeruo, Christensen maybe Chalobah and Aké.I thought kalas was outstanding at anfield last season , IMO he is certainly talented enough to make it with us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,710 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I thought kalas was outstanding at anfield last season , IMO he is certainly talented enough to make it with usThat's right but he hasn't played a single minute in Cologne... I thought he would be a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boshman 1,073 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Don't think we need to go looking for a replacement. Kalas and Zouma are perfectly capable to cover JT when the time comes. Although as somebody else said. JT will never be replaced, we will just have to fill the hole left as best we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I don't think we need "one for the future", we have plenty of those in the CB department. CB is the only position where I felt we weakened over the summer. JT is not getting any younger, the new system makes it impossible for Cahill to have as good a season as last, and we sold David Luiz without getting a replacement (no, Zouma is Kalas' replacement in the squad, at least for this season).Hence, I think we need a CB who is a finished article and who will be ready to lead our defense (don't mean captain, but rather organize) in a year or two. I like Jones, but he'll need a lot of work to get his career back on track and is a bit of a gamble. Of course it would be great if we can get an established CB, but since not a lot of those are available on the market, I'd give a shout to Ranocchia. I've always admired him and I think he would be great value for money. Most Inter fans don't really want Ranocchia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Most Inter fans don't really want Ranocchia.I know and it completely boggles my mind. I genuinely believe he has all the technical and physical abilities to become a top CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Caulker> Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballackstothat 43 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Caulker> Jonesi am right in understanding you mean phil "rubber face" jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 i am right in understanding you mean phil "rubber face" jonesYou ARE right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 JT's replacement will have to be a world class or very very good defender just approaching his prime. unfortunately this new era is the worst it's ever been for defenders. It's like finding needle in haystack. if you remove Silva,Hummels,Benatia, varane and Komapany who are all not available then you struggle to find a worthy defender from there on.Finding his replacement will be much harder than some people think as defenders who are good enough to take on the mantle won't be available. We should have competed much harder with Munich for Benatia's signature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballackstothat 43 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 You ARE right.he's jank, one of the reasons why man u finished 7th last year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballackstothat 43 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 we've got a replacement for terry in zouma, why do you think we was after him for so long, fast,unbelievable leap in the air, good spatial awareness. and more importantly crunching in the tackle, timing is very good aside from the broken leg tackle alltho he did get ball, man and nearly hoarding. that is what you call a livener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 Kalas / Zouma.kalas cant never get on fc koln team what chance does he have getting on the chelsea team mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I still maintain that Omeruo and Kalas are better than Zouma and I have seen nothing to convince me otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 JT's replacement will have to be a world class or very very good defender just approaching his prime. unfortunately this new era is the worst it's ever been for defenders. It's like finding needle in haystack. if you remove Silva,Hummels,Benatia, varane and Komapany who are all not available then you struggle to find a worthy defender from there on.Finding his replacement will be much harder than some people think as defenders who are good enough to take on the mantle won't be available. We should have competed much harder with Munich for Benatia's signature.Agreed Benatia would have been perfect, however as Chile showed if you have a good system then you can relitevely easily help centre halfs, Chile thrashed Spain with Jara and Medel in their back line.This probably sounds crazy but I could see Mou thinking outside the box and doing something like turning Azpi into a centre half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 The thing about JT is could he still go for a few years yet?Obviously he isn't as good as his mid twentys but he is showing no real signs of decline yet. Carvalho declined when he hit 30, Lamps slowed down at 32, Malouda at 30, Alex in his last 6 months lost the plot yet Terry at nearly 34 is still playing at a high level and showing no serious signs of decline yet.Obviously we have to be wary and keep a close eye on him, however he could surprise a few by just how long hes still got especially as Mous system will protect him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Agreed Benatia would have been perfect, however as Chile showed if you have a good system then you can relitevely easily help centre halfs, Chile thrashed Spain with Jara and Medel in their back line.This probably sounds crazy but I could see Mou thinking outside the box and doing something like turning Azpi into a centre half.I could see it working. Azpi has all the qualities of a CB bar aerial dominance which is understandable considering his height but then again Canavaro,Ayala,Puyol et al have shown that height shouldn't be a disadvantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Caulker> JonesCaulker is shit. And according to your 'the team they play for determines how good they are' logic, Caulker is one of the worst CB's in the country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Caulker is shit. And according to your 'the team they play for determines how good they are' logic, Caulker is one of the worst CB's in the countryLloris is shit. Cavani is shit. Phil Jones is shit. Now go home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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