GodZola 630 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 what a load of bullshit!!what a load of bullshit!!Thanks for your input - very enlightening! Now fuckoff back under that mushroom you just crawled away from, in other words they keep you in the dark & feed you shit - clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Here we go funny season has arrived. He is there to make those saves, is he not? What do want him to do to earn his corn, pick his arse? As I already stated Joe hart has had some similar performances good & bad but where do you see him now? Ridiculous? The only thing ridiculous mate is the fact that some of you lot cant see your head from your arse.Look, if Jose sticks with him I will trust his judgement but I much prefer how City are handling their own goalkeeping crisis.Funny season has arrived indeed. To even compare Cech's situation to Hart's who has been poor for the majority of the season is ludicrous IMO. Again I say, I love how you disregard the fact that he's made match winning saves in the some of the games that you did mention just because it's what goalkeepers are meant to do, which is again ludicrous again IMO, as that's like me saying one of the outfield players need to be dropped because he missed an open goal despite scoring 2 goals in the game. Look, I agree that Cech has made some mistakes this season and does need to work on rectifying them but equally, he's made plenty of world class saves this season and he isn't in bad form. One game where one mistake has truly cost the team (WBA) doesn't mean he's in bad form and needs to be dropped. Unbelievable how you're pretty much calling Cech's situation a "goalkeeping crisis". We'll just have to agree to disagree because you've obviously completely made your mind up that Cech needs to be benched for whatever reason. Rmpr, OneMoSalah and Blue Armour 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 To compare Hart to Cech is totally clueless, in my view.Most of us would love to see both Courtois & Cech playing next year. As we all know, that´s not possible.Since we still have about 8 months to go, I assume this thread will go on & on...Cech supporters on one side vs Courtois ones on the other. Where do you assign yourself, then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Can't believe Cech's season is being compared to Hart's. That is just ridiculous.Agreed, he hasn't been in his best of form but Hart's having a fucking nightmare of a season especially in the WC year.And 'goalkeeper crisis'??? That is just bollocks.We don't have a steady performing LB, our first choice RB can't cross the ball, we have a leaky defense with our CB making tons of mistakes, our pivot sucks and Jose hasn't found him best attacking trio yet and our strikers are not prolific enough and yet we are in a goalkeeping crisis.... We have a truly world-class goalkeeper with all the experience in the world and a young lad who is even better. There is no reason to give him so much stick just cause the team is performing badly as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Funny season has arrived indeed. To even compare Cech's situation to Hart's who has been poor for the majority of the season is ludicrous IMO.Again I say, I love how you disregard the fact that he's made match winning saves in the some of the games that you did mention just because it's what goalkeepers are meant to do, which is again ludicrous again IMO, as that's like me saying one of the outfield players need to be dropped because he missed an open goal despite scoring 2 goals in the game.Look, I agree that Cech has made some mistakes this season and does need to work on rectifying them but equally, he's made plenty of world class saves this season and he isn't in bad form. One game where one mistake has truly cost the team (WBA) doesn't mean he's in bad form and needs to be dropped.Unbelievable how you're pretty much calling Cech's situation a "goalkeeping crisis". We'll just have to agree to disagree because you've obviously completely made your mind up that Cech needs to be benched for whatever reason.I am little surprised by the fact it is you that I am disagreeing with, actually you are one of the few that has a some decent knowledge & understanding of the game but i suppose these things will happen.....Sometimes you have to see the bigger picture not just what's happening throughout one game, however Cech being rested will make him realize he has to improve, we may differ in opinion but the bottom line is that he has played better, far better. If he is selected Saturday I will be fully behind him and Jose but we simply cannot afford to keep giving away cheap goals & I include the defence in that too, if Cech performs well over number games then that will justify that decision but if not & he continues making mistakes, where are you & the Cech brigade stand then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 To compare Hart to Cech is totally clueless, in my view.Most of us would love to see both Courtois & Cech playing next year. As we all know, that´s not possible.Since we still have about 8 months to go, I assume this thread will go on & on...Cech supporters on one side vs Courtois ones on the other. Where do you assign yourself, then ? Not again...The Mata- Oscar comparison didn't do any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 1. Bayern2. Villa3. City4. West BromLOL, absolutely pathetic! 1. Bayern - Cech kept us in the game, we would have lost way before if not for him.2. Villa - Ok, although I disagree it was a mistake, he could have saved it.3. City - No one would have saved that, no one!4. WBA - The only horrible goal he has concedes this season, I grant you that.Now, look up at the other top keepers in the world and tell me one that has fewer mistakes than Cech.... Sidzeret 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Not again...The Mata- Oscar comparison didn't do any good.Does any comparison do any good here ? Just read some of those postings. It´s all there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Here we go funny season has arrived. He is there to make those saves, is he not? What do want him to do to earn his corn, pick his arse? As I already stated Joe hart has had some similar performances good & bad but where do you see him now? Ridiculous? The only thing ridiculous mate is the fact that some of you lot cant see your head from your arse.Look, if Jose sticks with him I will trust his judgement but I much prefer how City are handling their own goalkeeping crisis.Name a goalkeeper who is still playing and has been as consistent as Cech has for the last 10 years in the whole of Europe? There is nobody except Buffon and Casillas who are regarded as the best. He went through a bad period a few years back, like what Joe Hart is going through but he bounced back and in my eyes with Lloris is probably the best keeper in the PL. Sure with Courtois out on loan, any mistake Cech makes people can just say aw sell him and let Thibaut be #1 but still its fucking ridiculous to say so after ONE mistake.Anyway regarding Courtois, he has rejected a new contract apparently as he wants to be #1 next year? Do yous think Cech will be gone next season then or what? I mean the cycle has to come to an end at some point, with a 22(?) year old as good as Courtois we need to let him play sooner or later or he'll leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Of course Chelsea must let Courtois to play, soon.He is good with the ball, his feet & a great overall goalie. Soon, he will be like no other in his post. Many players already said so.Chelsea must not make a mistake here & bring him in next year. Apparently, Chelsea even offered him a new & improved deal, but the kid is smart & is silent, wait & see.His football future is on line here. He can not sit on the bench & watch Jose taking notes next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 LOL, absolutely pathetic! 1. Bayern - Cech kept us in the game, we would have lost way before if not for him.2. Villa - Ok, although I disagree it was a mistake, he could have saved it.3. City - No one would have saved that, no one!4. WBA - The only horrible goal he has concedes this season, I grant you that.Now, look up at the other top keepers in the world and tell me one that has fewer mistakes than Cech....Pathetic? Yet you agree with 2 of them, very bright thing to say. I suggest you go to specsavers mate if you don't think he could of saved Aguero's strike, intriguing that it is not just me that feels that way.I've said my peace & stand by it, now I will sit back & see what the next few weeks brings us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Name a goalkeeper who is still playing and has been as consistent as Cech has for the last 10 years in the whole of Europe? There is nobody except Buffon and Casillas who are regarded as the best. He went through a bad period a few years back, like what Joe Hart is going through but he bounced back and in my eyes with Lloris is probably the best keeper in the PL. Sure with Courtois out on loan, any mistake Cech makes people can just say aw sell him and let Thibaut be #1 but still its fucking ridiculous to say so after ONE mistake.Anyway regarding Courtois, he has rejected a new contract apparently as he wants to be #1 next year? Do yous think Cech will be gone next season then or what? I mean the cycle has to come to an end at some point, with a 22(?) year old as good as Courtois we need to let him play sooner or later or he'll leave.I'm not getting into who or what happened over the last 10 years, Cech imho was the best on the planet bar none pre head injury & its testament to him that he has came back at all least alone winning us the CL along with Didier, again my view is that people are over looking the obvious just because he is a legend.I have made my feelings pretty clear regarding Courtois in that thread, if I had my way he would be at the club now ala Cudicini v Cech situation, it worries me that we have the best young keeper in the world that will only have 2 years on his contract to run. I get the decision to allow him to stay AM & that we still have Cech & now a decent back up keeper but I would of much preferred the club tie down Courtois before making any decisions last summer. The boy could leave in 2 years time & there is nothing we can do about it, I just hope that because the club have looked after him by letting him stay in Madrid thus giving him CL experience etc & more importantly he gets to keep his place & plays in the world cup then he stays loyal to the club for doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Pathetic? Yet you agree with 2 of them, very bright thing to say. I suggest you go to specsavers mate if you don't think he could of saved Aguero's strike, intriguing that it is not just me that feels that way.I've said my peace & stand by it, now I will sit back & see what the next few weeks brings us.Wow, I agree a goalkeeper made 2 mistakes in 15 appearances!It obviously proves he is a shit player and should be benched... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I am little surprised by the fact it is you that I am disagreeing with, actually you are one of the few that has a some decent knowledge & understanding of the game but i suppose these things will happen.....Sometimes you have to see the bigger picture not just what's happening throughout one game, however Cech being rested will make him realize he has to improve, we may differ in opinion but the bottom line is that he has played better, far better. If he is selected Saturday I will be fully behind him and Jose but we simply cannot afford to keep giving away cheap goals & I include the defence in that too, if Cech performs well over number games then that will justify that decision but if not & he continues making mistakes, where are you & the Cech brigade stand then?I'm not disagreeing with you that if he does perform poorly over the next few weeks that he should be dropped (as with any player) as we do have a very capable back up in Schwarzer now, but my point is is that you're trying to make it seem like Cech has been a liability this season when that's simply not true. Apart from a few isolated moments like you've pointed out, Cech has been pretty good this season. We're not giving away cheap goals (which we've barely given away to begin with, I can only recall 2 or 3 right now) because of Cech tbh, that's more to do with the way the team has been playing in general. Cech has been one of the most consistent performance in comparison to the rest of the team IMO.If he's been as poor as you're trying to make him out to be, he would've been dropped for Schwarzer ages ago. 2/3 mistakes in 15 odd appearances doesn't warrant dropping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I'm not getting into who or what happened over the last 10 years, Cech imho was the best on the planet bar none pre head injury & its testament to him that he has came back at all least alone winning us the CL along with Didier, again my view is that people are over looking the obvious just because he is a legend.I have made my feelings pretty clear regarding Courtois in that thread, if I had my way he would be at the club now ala Cudicini v Cech situation, it worries me that we have the best young keeper in the world that will only have 2 years on his contract to run. I get the decision to allow him to stay AM & that we still have Cech & now a decent back up keeper but I would of much preferred the club tie down Courtois before making any decisions last summer. The boy could leave in 2 years time & there is nothing we can do about it, I just hope that because the club have looked after him by letting him stay in Madrid thus giving him CL experience etc & more importantly he gets to keep his place & plays in the world cup then he stays loyal to the club for doing so.I get your point about this whole Cech-Courtois situation but is there really any need to exaggerate Cech's mistakes when it has only been 2-3 because of that?! It's not like he has been making mistakes in every game.And people here are acting like the media these days. Make 1-2 mistakes, suddenly everything is being blown out of proportion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Wow, I agree a goalkeeper made 2 mistakes in 15 appearances!It obviously proves he is a shit player and should be benched... Yes like I really said he was a shit player?!I can too - be sarcastic but then I would be lowering myself to yours & the other muppets that can't hold a candle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I'm not disagreeing with you that if he does perform poorly over the next few weeks that he should be dropped (as with any player) as we do have a very capable back up in Schwarzer now, but my point is is that you're trying to make it seem like Cech has been a liability this season when that's simply not true. Apart from a few isolated moments like you've pointed out, Cech has been pretty good this season. We're not giving away cheap goals (which we've barely given away to begin with, I can only recall 2 or 3 right now) because of Cech tbh, that's more to do with the way the team has been playing in general. Cech has been one of the most consistent performance in comparison to the rest of the team IMO.If he's been as poor as you're trying to make him out to be, he would've been dropped for Schwarzer ages ago. 2/3 mistakes in 15 odd appearances doesn't warrant dropping.Look, I never got on his back for any of his mistakes up until now, never said anything of the sort of him being a liability just that he has now made too many mistakes, I've also stated that its not just him that is culpable, however this is his thread so my comments are in the appropriate section where the fact is we disagree. The problem is I believe its 4 mistakes some are saying one (unbelievably) others are saying its 2 & within that they have different opinions on the second mistake, which tells you there is arguably more than 2, no? Now because my opinion is that it is 4 mistakes in a short'ish period, I believe its time Cech had a rest, nothing more nothing less, as already stated if he is selected I will support the decision but it doesn't mean I concur with the it.Now I have no problem with members disagreeing with me but instead of having a civil debate you get ambushed by sarcasm, stupid remarks & because you state something that the masses don't agree with they are on you like a pack of wolf's, the facts are the alarm bells are ringing, that is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,274 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 1. Bayern2. Villa3. CityLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL WTF Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I get your point about this whole Cech-Courtois situation but is there really any need to exaggerate Cech's mistakes when it has only been 2-3 because of that?! It's not like he has been making mistakes in every game.And people here are acting like the media these days. Make 1-2 mistakes, suddenly everything is being blown out of proportion.Tbh it wasn't my intention to comment on Courtois it was only due to another member quoting me & asking me a question.Imho its not an exaggeration - its fact, just read what I stated to the skipper. I very rarely read too much into what the twats in the media spout off, I trust my own judgement, I've been involved in football at different levels for long enough to feel confident enough in that, nonetheless it doesn't mean I'm correct. In a few months time when the dust settles & Cech pulls out consistent performances without the mistakes I will apologize & say I got it wrong, which is unlike many on here. It maybe enough that Jose has had a few words because someone that is as meticulous as him wouldn't let it slip his notice & believe it or not I hope I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL WTFI rest my case!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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