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Absolutely.

If Mourinho's main concern was offering cover to Hazard's advances, he wouldn't have gone for a Brazilian LB of all possible.

No matter how less impressive in the attack he is compared to other Brazilians, he's still a Brazilian FB and as I said here in Brazil (and he played plenty of time still in Brazil) FB are rated more about their offensive game rather than their defensive game. We still play a lot through the flanks, it's our style and while we've incorporated wings (we were the ones who invented them in the first place in the 70's), even the smallest side here will have a FB bombing forward, it's how we play the game.

If Mourinho wanted to offer only defensive stability in the left flank he had two options 1) keep Azpili there (he's a beast defending) or 2) in case he wanted to restore Azpili to his original position he would have gone to the same profile for a LB (and there were a few available, even if not as good as Luís), not for Luís.

All that said, I do think Luís is better defending rather than attacking and overlapping, although of course he isn't shy in the latter.

This particular Brazilian actually likes to put in a tackle.

If any of you could find me another LB who wins the ball up field with 4.1 tackles and nearly 2 interceptions then you may be onto something. Azpi was great out of position but now with Luis we have proper balance down both flanks, two guys capable of winning the ball in dangerous areas and initiating the counter.

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Luis is a very balanced LB in the terms of attacking and defending. If Jose was not going to let him attack a lot, he would have just kept Dave there who does the defensive work amazingly well but lacks quality going forward because he is a right-footed player.

I don't think Jose would mind Filipe going forward more than Dave as long as he does his defensive work perfectly which he did at Atletico. Same thing applies to whoever plays on the right.

I guess in time we will see... Really don't get this argument about playing a guy out of position, yes Azpi was great there so why not get the guy who actually plays that position and allow Azpi to be great in his natural position?

There will be times our FB's get forward but for the most part they will sit deep and provide a platform for our attackers to build from

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There will be times our FB's get forward but for the most part they will sit deep and provide a platform for our attackers to build from

I disagree. I think for the majority of times (against inferior teams which we'll face more often than not) they'll support our attackers to build play, and not only provide a solid platform.

I'm very certain our fullbacks will be more involved in general play next season. Mou will not be as conservative next season as he was in the last.

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I disagree. I think for the majority of times (against inferior teams which we'll face more often than not) they'll support our attackers to build play, and not only provide a solid platform.

I'm very certain our fullbacks will be more involved in general play next season. Mou will not be as conservative next season as he was in the last.

Nah... that usually happens if we haven't scored and we're searching for it. 70mins or so.

You guys are hoping Mourinho changes his stripes but he knows how to win and his methods don't variate all that much.

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You guys are hoping Mourinho changes his stripes but he knows how to win and his methods don't variate all that much.

Now which stripes are these? The ones where he played Marcelo as a very attacking left-back or the ones where he was last season pretty much forced to play a right-back out of position on the left?

I get it, you have this agenda against Mourinho but let's not still be ignorant. To even talk about 'stripes' with Mourinho is wrong, the man's more like a chameleon who can adapt to work with what he's got (to some extent).

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Now which stripes are these? The ones where he played Marcelo as a very attacking left-back or the ones where he was last season pretty much forced to play a right-back out of position on the left?

I get it, you have this agenda against Mourinho but let's not still be ignorant. To even talk about 'stripes' with Mourinho is wrong, the man's more like a chameleon who can adapt to work with what he's got (to some extent).

I LOVE MOURINHO! Have no idea what you're talking about!

Oh and by the way I know a bit more about Mourinho's methods than most, I actually know a guy who took his coaching badges with him. I've actually SEEN one of Jose's dossiers.

Marcelo also lost his job to Coentrao, Azpi played left back for defending purposes not attack.

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Marcelo also lost his job to Coentrao, Azpi played left back for defending purposes not attack.

Actually no he didn't. Marcelo played pretty much every game when fit, including the important games, but in Mourinho's last year at Real Madrid he was injured for much of the season. Either way, Coentrao is not exactly what you'd describe a defending full-back either and he was mostly deployed in pretty much the same role as Marcelo whenever he played.

Azpilicueta played as a defending full-back last season, that much is clear. However, I would assume that if Mourinho was fully satisfied with his performances there he would just continue with Azpilicueta and not spend a lot of money on a left-back who is known to be excellent both in defense and attack. When buying such a specialist for the position, the ideal thing would then be to actually play him in a role where we can get the most out of him on both ends of the pitch. If the plan was to keep playing a defending left-back who rarely goes forward, why would we not have just bought someone like Marcus Rojo who, like Ivanovic, is a CB by trade but can still play perfectly well as a defending left-back?

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Go check out which games Coentrao played in. The big games, until he got injured, featured Coentrao....

A lost place is what happened to Ash last season his total numbers equal 1 full season and 8 games may lost his job was a poor phrase to use to try and prove your point about Luis

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Actually no he didn't. Marcelo played pretty much every game when fit, including the important games, but in Mourinho's last year at Real Madrid he was injured for much of the season. Either way, Coentrao is not exactly what you'd describe a defending full-back either and he was mostly deployed in pretty much the same role as Marcelo whenever he played.

The season I'm speaking of specifically was 2011-2012 where Coentrao played in more of the Champs league games and also the clasico. I can't remember if Marcelo was injured though to be honest.

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Pointless argument. Even if Mou loves his defensive fullbacks, at least one of them will be allowed to attack in the lesser games - which Ivanovic always did.

Not even an argument really. I just don't think we're gonna see much variation from what we've seen in the past, there may be more quality but nota complete abandonment from what Jose normally does.

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The season I'm speaking of specifically was 2011-2012 where Coentrao played in more of the Champs league games and also the clasico. I can't remember if Marcelo was injured though to be honest.

Oh, you mean the season where Marcelo started 31 league games compared to Coentrao's 12. At least in one of the El Clasico's they both played, Marcelo at LB and Coentrao in midfield.

In the Champions League they pretty much shared the games. Don't remember either if one of them was injured for some of the games but at least in the knockout stages there looks to have been a trend of Coentrao starting the first leg and then Marcelo starting the decisive second leg. Happened each round against CSKA, APOEL and Bayern.

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Not even an argument really. I just don't think we're gonna see much variation from what we've seen in the past, there may be more quality but nota complete abandonment from what Jose normally does.

Discussion would have been a better word.

Bold part: This is the key thing though. If we play exactly the same but with Luis replacing Ivanovic as the more attacking fullback, then there's a better chance of breaking down a bus.

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Oh, you mean the season where Marcelo started 31 league games compared to Coentrao's 12.

In the Champions League they pretty much shared the games. Don't remember either if one of them was injured for some of the games but at least in the knockout stages there looks to have been a trend of Coentrao starting the first leg and then Marcelo starting the decisive second leg. Happened each round against CSKA, APOEL and Bayern.

I can't argue something I'm not sure about makes no sense. Even still its clear Marcelo was in Jose's dog house, what do you think that was all about?

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Nah... that usually happens if we haven't scored and we're searching for it. 70mins or so.

You guys are hoping Mourinho changes his stripes but he knows how to win and his methods don't variate all that much.

Think you're forgetting the fact that last season Ivanovic was constantly allowed to move forward and join the attack, even against the top teams.

It makes sense that Filipe Luis would take over that role on the opposite side and Azpi then coming in on the right and taking a similar (defensive) role as he did on the left last season.

We'll probably see Terry moving to the right CB position aswell so he can still get the extra protection from his closest fullback.

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