Kezza 1,965 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Mm yeah does sound like a product commercial of some sort where the person presenting the commercial knows fuck all about the product other than what they're told to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr123 167 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Gosh. Have we actually started forcing our new signings to say they have been supporting Chelsea? Nearly all of our signings these days seem to be saying "I love Chelsea", "My favorite player is Lampard", "I have watched Chelsea a lot" or things along those lines. What they say may be genuine but on the other hand, it kinda feel like WTH!Quite possibly. I suspect its the same as Liverpool where every player bangs on about their 'great history' and how amazing those deluded scouse fans are. Personally I'd prefer a bit of honesty. Anyway, really pleased with Luis, bit disappointed with his age but at least 3 good years in him. Interested to see what this does to Hazard's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Rather interested in what he does for the team Hazard can take care of himself moreover costa was brought in to get on the end of things which will be the focus of our team I think, the rest are to create, keep stability and contribute their fair quota of goals. If costa scores as much as he has been scoring the league is totally ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Terrible curious. It could change the entire dynamics of our game imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I remember the brazilians saying Luis is the worse attacking fullback in the ranks...Alves, maicon, maxwell, marcelo, danilo, etc.People can talk about how Eden needs someone to overlap, etc, but if Jose plays luis the same way he plays dave last season, its going to be the same for hazard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacika 188 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I remember the brazilians saying Luis is the worse attacking fullback in the ranks...Alves, maicon, maxwell, marcelo, danilo, etc.People can talk about how Eden needs someone to overlap, etc, but if Jose plays luis the same way he plays dave last season, its going to be the same for hazard. This... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I remember the brazilians saying Luis is the worse attacking fullback in the ranks...Alves, maicon, maxwell, marcelo, danilo, etc.People can talk about how Eden needs someone to overlap, etc, but if Jose plays luis the same way he plays dave last season, its going to be the same for hazard. Just because he's not a headless chicken like Marcelo who can only attack while neglecting his duties in defense doesn't mean Luis is not good going forward. We all saw at the World Cup how good Brazil's full-backs actually were...Luis IMO is a complete player, great balance between attack / defense and I consider him to be perfect for Hazard. If we only had a full-back who's a complete liability at the back we could see Hazard's role being even more restricted as last season because he'd have to cover for the LB a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Just because he's not a headless chicken who can only attack while neglecting his duties in defense like Marcelo doesn't mean he's not an attacking full-back. We all saw at the World Cup how good Brazil's full-backs actually were...Luis IMO is a complete player, great balance between attack / defense and I consider him to be perfect for Hazard. If we only had a full-back who's a complete liability at the back we could see Hazard's role being even more restricted as last season because he'd have to cover for the LB a lot.That's not the point.The point is if Jose gives specific directions to luis to play a certain way, than hazard is going to be in the same position/situation as last year. If anything, Dave is a solid all around full back, not a purely defensive one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I remember the brazilians saying Luis is the worse attacking fullback in the ranks...Alves, maicon, maxwell, marcelo, danilo, etc.People can talk about how Eden needs someone to overlap, etc, but if Jose plays luis the same way he plays dave last season, its going to be the same for hazard. When Cole played, he didn't act as 3rd CB like Azpi - who let's not forget, was very limited because of playing on the wrong side.On the other side Ivanovic got forward every time. So i believe Luis will be the more attacking fullback, and Azpi will play moderately like Cole did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 People can talk about how Eden needs someone to overlap, etc, but if Jose plays luis the same way he plays dave last season, its going to be the same for hazard. Erm if that were the case then why would we spend up to £20m on him when we could have just kept Azpi there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 When Cole played, he didn't act as 3rd CB like Azpi - who let's not forget, was very limited because of playing on the wrong side.On the other side Ivanovic got forward every time. So i believe Luis will be the more attacking fullback, and Azpi will play moderately like Cole did.Hopefully, Mourinho allows the fullbacks to attack much more than last season and hopefully Ivan starts at cb or backup to both cb/rb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Erm if that were the case then why would we spend up to £20m on him when we could have just kept Azpi there?Well, who is our 3rd cb? IMO, no way does zouma or omero get that position and ivan or whomever, would be the perfect utility player that chelsea needs for depth. This is kind of the same reason why I never wanted luke shaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Well, who is our 3rd cb? IMO, no way does zouma or omero get that position and ivan or whomever, would be the perfect utility player that chelsea needs for depth. This is kind of the same reason why I never wanted luke shaw. Ivanovic hopefully, with Azpi starting at RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 That's not the point.The point is if Jose gives specific directions to luis to play a certain way, than hazard is going to be in the same position/situation as last year. If anything, Dave is a solid all around full back, not a purely defensive one.I agree, at the moment there's really no way to know for sure how Jose is going to set up the team. However, a fair assumption can be made that if Mourinho has identified the left-back position to be a problem enough for him to spend a massive amount of money on a player who was arguably the best in the world at his position last season, he would then at least be played in a role best suited to him and that is definitely a more attacking role than we saw Azpilicueta play last season. Azpilicueta, being a right footed player playing on the left, was forced to play a more restricted role while Ivanovic who is most certainly not known for his attacking contributions other than set-pieces was always allowed to bomb forward. I would hazard a guess that now with Luis who's much better offensively than Ivanovic the roles would be reversed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hopefully, Mourinho allows the fullbacks to attack much more than last season and hopefully Ivan starts at cb or backup to both cb/rb.One thing is for sure, Mou cares too much about defense to allow both fullbacks to bomb forward like Alves and Alba.1 player will be very attacking like Ivanovic last season, and the other will go forward when needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Since when is Filipe Luis not good at going forward? Sure, he isn't as cavalier as let's say Marcelo (not a lot are tbh) but he's still very good at going forward, overlapping his winger and putting in a good cross. He's the complete fullback. Good at attacking, good at defending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I remember the brazilians saying Luis is the worse attacking fullback in the ranks...Alves, maicon, maxwell, marcelo, danilo, etc.People can talk about how Eden needs someone to overlap, etc, but if Jose plays luis the same way he plays dave last season, its going to be the same for hazard. Again I completely disagree with you. Luis wasn't bought to give Hazard on option on the flank(though I think he will help a bit), he was bought to alleviate the defensive responsibility Hazard has on the left flank. Having a solid, veteran defender in behind Hazard will allow him to focus most on what he does best.Luis can overlap but his main function is providing sufficient cover for Eden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I have a feeling attacking wise its gonna be similar to last season.Back 4 and Matic stay home, Fabregas and top 4 attack(in most games anyway) We haven't yet moved from being a counter attacking team in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Again I completely disagree with you. Luis wasn't bought to give Hazard on option on the flank(though I think he will help a bit), he was bought to alleviate the defensive responsibility Hazard has on the left flank. Having a solid, veteran defender in behind Hazard will allow him to focus most on what he does best.Luis can overlap but his main function is providing sufficient cover for Eden.My comments was based on what people wrote concerning hazard +lb.Hazard already had dave and cole, which are as solid as lbs in the epl a team can have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 My comments was based on what people wrote concerning hazard +lb.Hazard already had dave and cole, which are as solid as lbs in the epl a team can haveCole was past his best and Azpi was playing out of position. Luis is the kind of vet that will allow Hazard to flourish. He's smart... Also, I never rated Azpi until Jose worked with him, if his impact on Azpi can be similar to that of Luis we're golden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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