🇧🇷 Filipe Luís

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

I dont think there is anything in this story. I'd expect to see a similar story concerning Moreno soon, thats how the tabloids work isn't it?

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

Rumours that Miranda is off to United too. That Atletico team is being decimated.

As a short-term option then he fits what we need, a bit like the Tiago deal. Not expensive, immediate upgrade, fits the system and gives us a chance to develop some of the young guys.

Bertrand and van Aanholt will be out. Even the Vitesse manager said himself PVA is not good enough to play for Chelsea. So sense would be to sign a younger left back than 29 to save having to buy another in 2-3yrs or so

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Bertrand and van Aanholt will be out. Even the Vitesse manager said himself PVA is not good enough to play for Chelsea. So sense would be to sign a younger left back than 29 to save having to buy another in 2-3yrs or so

Bertrand and Van Aanholt are done. I was talking more about the guys coming through like Aina and Dasilva.

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Rumours that Miranda is off to United too. That Atletico team is being decimated.

As a short-term option then he fits what we need, a bit like the Tiago deal. Not expensive, immediate upgrade, fits the system and gives us a chance to develop some of the young guys.

Except in Tiago's case, there actually are youngsters in line behind him, so the short term plan makes sense. Not in the case of our LB. There is no sense in a short term purchase because the next LB, will also be a purchase and not a youngster.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Bertrand and Van Aanholt are done. I was talking more about the guys coming through like Aina and Dasilva.

Do you honestly think Ola or Jay will be ready to be first choice LBs in 3/4 years?

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Except in Tiago's case, there actually are youngsters in line behind him, so the short term plan makes sense. Not in the case of our LB. There is no sense in a short term purchase because the next LB, will also be a purchase and not a youngster.

How exactly do you know this?

Do you honestly think Ola or Jay will be ready to be first choice LBs in 3/4 years?

Do I think someone aged 19/20 could be our left-back?

Good point. Definitely not. Quick let's buy Luke Shaw.

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He's 29 though... I was honestly expecting us to offer something in the region of £5-7 million and if they decline, we move on to someone younger.

It looks like we're going to be the new and improved Atletico , Courtois, Costa and Tiago are nailed on, and we are also being linked with Luis and Koke.

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

How exactly do you know this?

Do I think someone aged 19/20 could be our left-back?

Good point. Definitely not. Quick let's buy Luke Shaw.

Because there aren't really any great talents in youth / reserve set up for that LB spot as opposed to plenty for the CM spot.

Aina is a RB, or a CB. He's played LB, but not his best position.

And Jay is 15, he has talent, but he's way too young to be ready in 3 years.

Nditi isn't good enough to make it here.

Aziz deen-conteh is gone already.

Mou doesn't rate Bertrand and I don't think PVA will ever be Chelsea first choice material.

So you tell me who else is there other than another purchase?

[Fernando 6,585]

He's 29 though... I was honestly expecting us to offer something in the region of £5-7 million and if they decline, we move on to someone younger.

It looks like we're going to be the new and improved Atletico , Courtois, Costa and Tiago are nailed on, and we are also being linked with Luis and Koke.

Changing from Atletico Madrid to Chelsea FC. Just missing the coach.

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Because there aren't really any great talents in youth / reserve set up for that LB spot as opposed to plenty for the CM spot.

Aina is a RB, or a CB. He's played LB, but not his best position.

And Jay is 15, he has talent, but he's way too young to be ready in 3 years.

Nditi isn't good enough to make it here.

Aziz deen-conteh is gone already.

Mou doesn't rate Bertrand and I don't think PVA will ever be Chelsea first choice material.

So you tell me who else is there other than another purchase?

I've heard rumours that Jay Dasilva (actually aged 16) has plans to 'age'. Quite a controversial move but he's hoping to be at least 18 in three years time, possibly pushing to be 19 if time allows. I don't know if you've heard of the Curious Case of Bejamin Button but apparently it's something like that, but in reverse.

And you're correct that Aina has featured at left-back this season, as has Ake. Maybe the club think that a proven top-level player is a better bet right now than a gamble on a youngster.

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

I've heard rumours that Jay Dasilva (actually aged 16) has plans to 'age'. Quite a controversial move but he's hoping to be at least 18 in three years time, possibly pushing to be 19 if time allows. I don't know if you've heard of the Curious Case of Bejamin Button but apparently it's something like that, but in reverse.

And you're correct that Aina has featured at left-back this season, as has Ake. Maybe the club think that a proven top-level player is a better bet right now than a gamble on a youngster.

So you're telling me the club who isn't playing the current 18-20 year old huge talents in our youth reserve teams will finally take that chance with the current LB prospects?

If you believe that, then fair enough, but I don't see Chelsea giving 18 year old chances to become a first choice LB, not because Chelsea is evil but because it's very unlikely and 18 year old is physically ready to be first choice at a club who plays 60 matches every year.

If so then why are you for Tiago? Surely Chalobah, Loftus Cheek and Baker are at the age you consider they should become first choice players.

You seem to be taking both sides of the argument.

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So you're telling me the club who isn't playing the current 18-20 year old huge talents in our youth reserve teams will finally take that chance with the current LB prospects?

If you believe that, then fair enough, but I don't see Chelsea giving 18 year old chances to become a first choice LB, not because Chelsea is evil but because it's very unlikely and 18 year old is physically ready to be first choice at a club who plays 60 matches every year.

If so then why are you for Tiago? Surely Chalobah, Loftus Cheek and Baker are at the age you consider they should become first choice players.

You seem to be taking both sides of the argument.

Say Luis is here for three years, then we can start blooding someone like Dasilva in his final year or look at other young prospects we might acquire. Or we might simply look to bring someone else in when Luis leaves.

With the Tiago situation I think he gives us a safety net to maybe start blooding some of the youngsters from this upcoming season. Chalobah should be in the first team squad, Baker needs a loan in all likelihood and Loftus-Cheek could go either way.

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Say Luis is here for three years, then we can start blooding someone like Dasilva in his final year or look at other young prospects we might acquire. Or we might simply look to bring someone else in when Luis leaves.

With the Tiago situation I think he gives us a safety net to maybe start blooding some of the youngsters from this upcoming season. Chalobah should be in the first team squad, Baker needs a loan in all likelihood and Loftus-Cheek could go either way.

That's exactly my point. Why spend money on buying Luis, a short term option when most likely we'll have to make another purchase (short term is our prospects are close or long term if they aren't) soon.

Why not just spend the 30M on Shaw then?

The only argument against Shaw is that we can get as good if not better first choice LB that can give us close to the same number of years he could.

Spending 15m every 3 years, I rather pay over the top for Shaw instead.

Tiago and Luis are completely different scenarios because it feels as a youngster will most likely replace Tiago but that won't be the case with Luis. You're looking at another acquisition before the current LB youngsters can be relied upon. Financially, a short term purchase doesn't make sense for the LB position, while it does for CM.

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That's exactly my point. Why spend money on buying Luis, a short term option when most likely we'll have to make another purchase (short term is our prospects are close or long term if they aren't) soon.

Why not just spend the 30M on Shaw then?

The only argument against Shaw is that we can get as good if not better first choice LB that can give us close to the same number of years he could.

Because Shaw costs more in both wages and transfer fees and might not actually be as good as Luis. Shaw is a MASSIVE gamble. Luis is less so.

Spending 15m every 3 years, I rather pay over the top for Shaw instead.

Well that's something we don't know yet. We could uncover another young gem in that time or even develop our own in-house.

Tiago and Luis are completely different scenarios because it feels as a youngster will most likely replace Tiago but that won't be the case with Luis. You're looking at another acquisition before the current LB youngsters can be relied upon. Financially, a short term purchase doesn't make sense for the LB position, while it does for CM.

Again you're discounting the young players from making that step up which I'm not quite prepared to do yet. How purchasing Luis doesn't make sense I don't know. He's a good player. He's proven at the top-level and he costs quite a lot less than Shaw would.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for us to sign Shaw but it's a massively expensive gamble. Over the next couple of seasons we'd be set at left-back with Luis.

[dee25 1,044]

He's 29 though... I was honestly expecting us to offer something in the region of £5-7 million and if they decline, we move on to someone younger.

It looks like we're going to be the new and improved Atletico , Courtois, Costa and Tiago are nailed on, and we are also being linked with Luis and Koke.

We'd have to amend the club name. Chelsea de Madrid.

[xPetrCechx 13,571]

We'd have to amend the club name. Chelsea de Madrid.

Atletico De London.

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

Atletico De London.

Los Chelseaneros.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Lol, funny how it turns out now, because last year, I believe we tried to build a mini Belgium National Team.

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

This transfer window is shaping up to be a really stupid one, why on earth would u pay 19.5 million for a 29 year old leftback who is only 3-4 years younger than A Cole?? when there is luke shaw, alberto moreno and rodriguez on the market for just abt the same amount??

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

This transfer window is shaping up to be a really stupid one, why on earth would u pay 19.5 million for a 29 year old leftback who is only 3-4 years younger than A Cole?? when there is luke shaw, alberto moreno and rodriguez on the market for just abt the same amount??

To be honest, all the media here are jumping on the Marca report. Wouldn't get too worried at the moment.[if you dont want filipe luis that is..]