Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Could you please list me the amount of quality chances we created in the Norwich game? I can only think of the Schurrle chance where he hit the post, and that's just one. Not good enough. We didn't even create one clear cut chance for our striker in that game. I don't think we even created the best chance in that game. Of course we aren't going to win every game, but to say it's naive to expect us to beat the likes of Norwich, WBA, Sunderland, Crystal Palace etc. is surely overstating it a bit?-Schurrle off the post-Luiz off the bar-Schurrle pen appeal-Hazard shot in the box Torres rebound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Seems logical ..Doesn't he have a release clause though? which is supposed to mean they have to sell if we offer 32 m ?£32m. €35m translates into £28.5m so if that is true the latter would be the fee we pay for Diego Costa. £28.5m is a very good price but I think I'd rather keep that extra £4m and bring back Courtois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 -Schurrle off the post-Luiz off the bar-Schurrle pen appeal-Hazard shot in the box Torres rebound.I guess here is where we disagree on what a "quality" chance is. Sure, those are chances, but apart from Schurrle's chance which was well worked with Matic's superb ball, none of those are clear cut chances that you'd definitely expect us to score. Luiz's (speculative shot) and Hazard's shots were more down to individual brilliance. It wasn't due to us cutting them open via a good, calculated build up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steagles 70 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 He is really fond of the run up the left flank, cutting in and curling it with his right I noticed. About 5/8 to 2/3 were of that sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 £32m. €35m translates into £28.5m so if that is true the latter would be the fee we pay for Diego Costa. £28.5m is a very good price but I think I'd rather keep that extra £4m and bring back Courtois.I know everyone is excited to see Courtois in goal, but £4m is a big player's wages i.e. it could mean we've kept JT for another year.It'd be great to have Courtois here, but I've always said that if we get Costa for such a low price it's because Courtois will go there for another year. That's a price I'd happily pay. No way am I worried when we have Cech and Schwarzer. Courtois will most likely sign an extension anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I guess here is where we disagree on what a "quality" chance is. Sure, those are chances, but apart from Schurrle's chance which was well worked with Matic's superb ball, none of those are clear cut chances that you'd definitely expect us to score. Luiz's (speculative shot) and Hazard's shots were more down to individual brilliance. It wasn't due to us cutting them open via a good, calculated build up.Luiz left alone at the top of the 18 is speculative? hmm... Hazard dancing in alone doesn't count as a chance creation? hmmm...Ya agree to disagree we didn't have a fabulous game but like I said we did enough to win had we been more clinical. Torres is just never alive in the box, he seems to always be on his heels, the Hazard rebound is a good example of that, but ya agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I know everyone is excited to see Courtois in goal, but £4m is a big player's wages i.e. it could mean we've kept JT for another year.It'd be great to have Courtois here, but I've always said that we're most likely getting Costa for such a low price because Courtois will go there for another year. That's a price I'd happily pay. No way am I worried when we have Cech and Schwartzer. Courtois will most likely sign an extension anyway.That's fair. Cech is obviously still a WC goalkeeper and Schwarzer is an excellent deputy - I wouldn't mind either way tbh, as long as Courtois signs a new contract I'm fine with Cech being our undisputed number 1 for another year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Luiz left alone at the top of the 18 is speculative? hmm... Hazard dancing in alone doesn't count as a chance creation? hmmm...Ya agree to disagree we didn't have a fabulous game but like I said we did enough to win had we been more clinical. Torres is just never alive in the box, he seems to always be on his heels, the Hazard rebound is a good example of that, but ya agree to disagree.The Luiz shot was brilliant but not something I would count as a chance that you'd expect him to score. Sure, it was a chance but it was pretty speculative in my opinion.Hazard's obviously counts as a chance but again, it would've been a brilliant individual goal had he scored, not a chance created through good build up play. You can't keep relying on brilliant individual goals to win you games as they're rare. Again, I'm not saying it wasn't a chance but it wasn't a clear, clear chance that you'd expect Eden to 100% score. On Torres, the less said the better lol. But yeah, respectfully agree to disagree. It's nice to have a debate with someone who doesn't constantly act childish or tries to insult you when you don't agree on things. Cheers pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Isn't there a rule that states that we can't loan Courtois to Atletico again?I think that rule is for PL clubs, i'm not too sure about the rules but i know Atletico can have him for one more year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Chelsea have offered Lukaku to Atletico Madrid as part of the deal to sign Costa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Chelsea have offered Lukaku to Atletico Madrid as part of the deal to sign Costa!please stop posting this unsubstantiated bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Martinez is shite compared to Diego Costa mate. He sure is overrated, that Jackson guy. He's no better than the Loic Remy's of this world. A little bit like how Mandzku is overrated on here too.C.Ronaldo: 31 goals from 216 shots. Messi: 27 goals from 158 shots. Diego Costa: 27 goals from 108 shots.Diego Costa's goal scoring record (last 3 season) : 66 goals in 110 games.Luis Suarez's goal scoring record (last 3 season) : 65 goals in 102 games.That's Diego "one season wonder" Costa for you. And why the fuck will you want Khedira when we have Matic? Hmm, bro? I really appreciate you quoting my post from October last year. My perspective about Costa and Maetinez has changed quite a lot since then. Hmm, and Matic too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I honestly haven't seen him play other than the games against us and he really didn't shine but I've heard stats etc. Can he help us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 If he doesn't score on his debut, this forum will crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I honestly haven't seen him play other than the games against us and he really didn't shine but I've heard stats etc. Can he help us?Big, strong, nasty, has an edge, dangerous and can mix it up.Everything we have lacked for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 If he doesn't score on his debut, this forum will crash. If he DOES score on his debut, this forum will crash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 If he doesn't sign, well errr I dunno!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Are you serious?? Surely you're only referring to his form this season!?! Bagging Lampard is considered sacrilegious around these parts. The man will go down in history as one of the greatest ever Chelsea players, IMO, the best!been watching for 9 years. aside from the goals and a few passes here and there, I'm not too impressed. excellent player for a 4-3-3 where is expected to run into the box or to the edge of the 18, but never a choice player for me. 2004-2005 was his best season. I don't care if it's sacrilege; I'm not religious and football isn't a religion. just opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1chelsea 864 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 If he doesn't score on his debut, this forum will crash. If he sign he will surely do score in "my" first three match or I will skin his living boot alive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary gordon 1,777 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 been watching for 9 years. aside from the goals and a few passes here and there, I'm not too impressed. excellent player for a 4-3-3 where is expected to run into the box or to the edge of the 18, but never a choice player for me. 2004-2005 was his best season. I don't care if it's sacrilege; I'm not religious and football isn't a religion. just opinions.You do know that sacrilege has nothing to do with religion right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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