Two Palestinian Players Shot By Israeli Military

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

Oh really if that were the case palestians arabs would of accepted the 1948 partion plan which had more than land than what is being proposed today.

He should answer you very well

By the way he is a Jew and his parents were put through the misery of the Holocaust

[jasonlol 154]

relatively new mosque on israels cost line http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/PikiWiki_Israel_13519_Kababir_Mosque.jpg

Mosque in south syria http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/25/article-2314459-1976A597000005DC-495_964x617.jpg

So muslims kill muslims in syria, not much reaction from tc commmunity.

But an israeli allegely shoots at feet at people causing trouble at a border place which turns out to be false and tc anti israel crowd go into full meltdown mode.

[Stingray 9,441]

Why.. no one has been name calling anyone.........

Because it is in no way - nor in its intention - a debate, an exchange of ideas. It is just derogation of the outgroup, which never leads to truth, only to further polarisation - check the entire social psychology research in the 60-70-80's. I am serious btw.

[jasonlol 154]

He should answer you very well

By the way he is a Jew and his parents were put through the misery of the Holocaust

LOL filkerstein is a pseudo intellectual who is a self hating jew. Hes a communist and hates self interest and hatred of the good for being the good. This guy has zero credibility.

If you really seek the truth about events leading up to 1948 go read palestine betrayed. It documents village by village what happens and concludes arabs(most egyptians) are to blame.

[jasonlol 154]

He should answer you very well

By the way he is a Jew and his parents were put through the misery of the Holocaust

Palestine pre 48 was an administrive region under british rule(jews and arabs lived there). Never was it an indepedent arab state.

http://ari.aynrand.org/blog/2013/06/07/the-arab-israel-conflict-and-the-palestinian-refugees-podcast-episode-6 here is a 48 minute podcast on some real historical accuracy.

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

Palestine pre 48 was an administrive region under british rule(jews and arabs lived there). Never was it an indepedent arab state.

http://ari.aynrand.org/blog/2013/06/07/the-arab-israel-conflict-and-the-palestinian-refugees-podcast-episode-6 here is a 48 minute podcast on some real historical accuracy.

Naaa Finklestien is a very credible person. Apparently you haven't heard him or hear hi reply to your question

[jasonlol 154]

Naaa Finklestien is a very credible person. Apparently you haven't heard him or hear hi reply to your question

thats why in the u.s and canada hes dubbed the anti semites favourite jew. All serious poli sci professors denounce him. Put in your own writing(you can take his argument) down here and ill counter it.

Naaa Finklestien is a very credible person. Apparently you haven't heard him or hear hi reply to your question

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

thats why in the u.s and canada hes dubbed the anti semites favourite jew. All serious poli sci professors denounce him. Put in your own writing(you can take his argument) down here and ill counter it.

Counter what he said then if you can. But you can't? Or you don't want to listen maybe?

There is no surprise than the U.S would denounce him. And it makes perfect sense that Canada does too

[jasonlol 154]

Counter what he said then if you can. But you can't? Or you don't want to listen maybe?

uggg ok where do I begin. He suggests 6 minitues that israelis want to steal peoples land and control them. If that were true israel never would of returned all the land it conquered from egypt and syria during 67 wars and it would be proposing two states where it give up more lands. And as for controlling peoples live? this is the onion surley. West bank is more free than most arab countires, now yes they are stuff like checkpoints but these are methods of self defense. Im old enough to remember before there was a wall and there was a bomb going off in Israel every weekend. Mr. Finkelsteins also concedes that arab states did not recognize israel. but hes wrong in suggest they do now. Arabs and their leadership today reject Israel more than ever. It is illegal for a lebanese person to even tweet to an israeli. Finkelstein also lives in fantasy world thinking that even writing on a piece of paper that peace will all of the sudden emerge. If two states are created tommrow palestinans still won't stop till they have all of Israel. Thats why they chant "from river to see palestine will be free". Thats kinda calling for israels destruction.

[jasonlol 154]

Counter what he said then if you can. But you can't? Or you don't want to listen maybe?

There is no surprise than the U.S would denounce him. And it makes perfect sense that Canada does too

YOu think iran is ready to recogonize israel as a jewish state, Lebanon lol? Egypt whos populous is convinced everything is a jewish conspiracy.

even Palestinians admit they dont want peace .

[jasonlol 154]

I am wrong Egyptian culture is ready to embrace6 Israel as a jewish state and usher a great future together. This arab lady admits so.

[Stingray 9,441]

thats why in the u.s and canada hes dubbed the anti semites favourite jew. All serious poli sci professors denounce him. Put in your own writing(you can take his argument) down here and ill counter it.

That is simply not true. He got shunned by Israel because he made research that indicated that even the Zionists made 'psychological profit' by abusing sources from the Shoah.

Eg:

This photo seems about shooting an adult and a kid however - the opposing soldiers however are cropped. The Nazi's werent shooting the kid and his patent(?) but it was marketed that way. No matter the atrocities committed, this DOES NOT serve any cause. Only the negationist cause who used this hoaxing to claim the entire Shoah was false. Fucking hell!

This kind of thing is what Finkelstein put to the board. Admirable in terms of historical criticism and science. Too much for some agenda's.

I taught Uni in the States and I teach in Europe. Believe me, the sources are way more objective on the European side when Shoah and the Diaspora is concerned.

Ps: seeing you like to enter youtube one shots, i have no doubt you will dismiss any kind of evidence, however strong.

[Fernando 6,488]

Well what do you think about the orthodox Jews who are persecuting the Messianic Jews?

[jasonlol 154]

That is simply not true. He got shunned by Israel because he made research that indicated that even the Zionists made 'psychological profit' by abusing sources from the Shoah.

Eg:

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This photo seems about shooting an adult and a kid however - the opposing soldiers however are cropped. The Nazi's werent shooting the kid and his patent(?) but it was marketed that way. No matter the atrocities committed, this DOES NOT serve any cause. Only the negationist cause who used this hoaxing to claim the entire Shoah was false. Fucking hell!

This kind of thing is what Finkelstein put to the board. Admirable in terms of historical criticism and science. Too much for some agenda's.

I taught Uni in the States and I teach in Europe. Believe me, the sources are way more objective on the European side when Shoah and the Diaspora is concerned.

Ps: seeing you like to enter youtube one shots, i have no doubt you will dismiss any kind of evidence, however strong.

Im just exposing the insanity in the arab world and their primitive way of thinking. Now you show me this random photo of god knows what and claim it as strong. And to say Zionists profited physiologically from from abusing sources of the Shoah is insane. Inherent in your post you suggest zionists are nazi's but lets not forget who was allied with the nazi's in ww2. this is haj amin all husseni(probaly spelled it wrong). http://www.think-israel.org/nov09pix/hajamin.hitler.jpg

he was leader of arabs in the british mandate of Palestine, he was well documented as meeting hitler several times and preparing his own final solution for jews living in than manadate of palestine. If were going to accuse people of being nazi's lets start with the Palestinians arabs who conclusively were.

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

uggg ok where do I begin. He suggests 6 minitues that israelis want to steal peoples land and control them. If that were true israel never would of returned all the land it conquered from egypt and syria during 67 wars and it would be proposing two states where it give up more lands. And as for controlling peoples live? this is the onion surley. West bank is more free than most arab countires, now yes they are stuff like checkpoints but these are methods of self defense. Im old enough to remember before there was a wall and there was a bomb going off in Israel every weekend. Mr. Finkelsteins also concedes that arab states did not recognize israel. but hes wrong in suggest they do now. Arabs and their leadership today reject Israel more than ever. It is illegal for a lebanese person to even tweet to an israeli. Finkelstein also lives in fantasy world thinking that even writing on a piece of paper that peace will all of the sudden emerge. If two states are created tommrow palestinans still won't stop till they have all of Israel. Thats why they chant "from river to see palestine will be free". Thats kinda calling for israels destruction.

Nice try, but you were suppose to counter it. He asks a perfect question, Why do you people go back to 1948 where the Arabs didn't recognise Isreal and why ignore the two state solution in the 1970, not his accusations of Isreal First of all Isreal didn't willingly give the land it took from Egypt back. It was through a war in 1973 that forced negotiations. Land in Syria " Golan Heights"....you better check, still ain't Syrian.

I don't know how you can claim that the West Bank is more free than the Arab countries. We are not occupied by other forces.

The fact that you stated that the Arab world doesn't recognize Israel is absolutely non sense. Egypt has trade with Israel. I think you are confusing the fact that they do not like Israel. Big difference between not recognizing a country and not liking it.

About predicting what the Palestinians would do if there was a two state solution makes me wonder if you are a fortune teller mate . I know the Egyptians said they will never stop till Israel is gone, but that was during war time. I don't see any wars igniting between Egypt and Israel.

YOu think iran is ready to recogonize israel as a jewish state, Lebanon lol? Egypt whos populous is convinced everything is a jewish conspiracy.

even Palestinians admit they dont want peace .

Why are you bringing Iran in now? First Egypt the Iran

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

I am wrong Egyptian culture is ready to embrace6 Israel as a jewish state and usher a great future together. This arab lady admits so.

LOL, post a video for some unknown and suggest she represents the entire Egyptian opinion.

Now that was funny

[jasonlol 154]

Nice try, but you were suppose to counter it. He asks a perfect question, Why do you people go back to 1948 where the Arabs didn't recognise Isreal and why ignore the two state solution in the 1970, not his accusations of Isreal First of all Isreal didn't willingly give the land it took from Egypt back. It was through a war in 1973 that forced negotiations. Land in Syria " Golan Heights"....you better check, still ain't Syrian.

I don't know how you can claim that the West Bank is more free than the Arab countries. We are not occupied by other forces.

The fact that you stated that the Arab world doesn't recognize Israel is absolutely non sense. Egypt has trade with Israel. I think you are confusing the fact that they do not like Israel. Big difference between not recognizing a country and not liking it.

About predicting what the Palestinians would do if there was a two state solution makes me wonder if you are a fortune teller mate . I know the Egyptians said they will never stop till Israel is gone, but that was during war time. I don't see any wars igniting between Egypt and Israel.

Why are you bringing Iran in now? First Egypt the Iran

Ok your point on recogonzing and not liking is a fair and accurate one. Although egypt and jordan are the two friendliest countries toward israel. Lebanon has no trade for example. And there was an arab boycott after 67. I do not view the west bank as occupied. Since arabs started the 48 war and than lost and in 67 again this is land conquered through self defense. Any giving back is at the mercey of israel. Also arabs in west bank dont live under shariah like in gulf states and many apsects of live are better off under israeli rule than other arab countires. Like jordan opresses pals for example. Secondly west bank is mostly ruled by Palestinians they elect they own leaders and make there own tax code etc. as for the golan heights that will never be given back. its to vital for israeli defense and this was land also conquered in a war of self defense.

[jasonlol 154]

LOL, post a video for some unknown and suggest she represents the entire Egyptian opinion.

Now that was funny

true I should assume guilt by assosiation fallacy but from the stuff I read on a daily basis on twitter thats tweeted from egyptians I follow to the stuff I hear from school from eyptian students I get a strong sense the rest of Egypt isn't far from her view point.