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Just now, Miguelito said:

Really? It's because it's clearly implying that because of the way he looks and/or his faith that he will bomb people...

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Oh because of faith?

So then i see there's a double standards because I see similar things label against Jews, like for money and what not and it's not deem racist....

 

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2 minutes ago, Fernando said:

By many people. In europe, in the middle east, in america. 

One good example of a leader we have in america Rep. Ilhan Omar. 

 

It's still racist. You are generalising a characteristic of a race to all members of that race. 

Being Arab myself, I find Arab jokes hilarious because I understand the satire of it. Some people don't, and to assume that they do just shows how incredibly naive that individual is. 

Ilhan Omar is getting stick because she used it in a political setting. 

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5 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

It's still racist. You are generalising a characteristic of a race to all members of that race. 

Being Arab myself, I find Arab jokes hilarious because I understand the satire of it. Some people don't, and to assume that they do just shows how incredibly naive that individual is. 

Ilhan Omar is getting stick because she used it in a political setting. 

For faith it should not be racist. 

Because that's one example, what about making comments against Christians? normally that does not get call out because people see it as "normal". 

To me racist about Faith is really a slippery road because no one will ever been consistent on every faith that exist out there

Racist about your skin color ant what not, then yes that is a problem. 

Anyhow that is my rant, as to how double standard things are today in the world. 

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1 hour ago, Miguelito said:

Not sure if you are saying that since it happens everywhere that it's not a big deal. If so, that's simply not true. That does not make any better, nor does it make it okay. In fact, it's worse that it's happening everywhere.

It's an embarrassment and wrong. Plain and simple. It should be publicized and called out in a way that will make it stop (or at least lessen).  These people shouldn't be near the club.

People can make a big deal of it if they want to, seems fashionable to take offence on behalf of someone else nowadays.

Worse things happening than pissed up lads singing a naughty song. That chant has probably been sung in 50 pubs with Manc fans before their games after the Manchester Arena bombing killed 19 kids.

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Oh because of faith?
So then i see there's a double standards because I see similar things label against Jews, like for money and what not and it's not deem racist....
 
I said because of the way he looks AND/OR his faith. If it is the way he looks, then it's racist. If it is because of his faith, then it's a religious prejudice. Either way it's wrong.

And about Jewish stuff, if it's prejudice against them then it's wrong. I can't believe this is an actual discussion.


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People can make a big deal of it if they want to, seems fashionable to take offence on behalf of someone else nowadays.
Worse things happening than pissed up lads singing a naughty song. That chant has probably been sung in 50 pubs with Manc fans before their games after the Manchester Arena bombing killed 19 kids.
Wow....again, none of that makes it okay. It makes it worse. I'm embarrassed for you right now.

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40 minutes ago, Fernando said:

For faith it should not be racist. 

Because that's one example, what about making comments against Christians? normally that does not get call out because people see it as "normal". 

To me racist about Faith is really a slippery road because no one will ever been consistent on every faith that exist out there

Racist about your skin color ant what not, then yes that is a problem. 

Anyhow that is my rant, as to how double standard things are today in the world. 

It's definitionally impossible to be racist about a faith. No faith, that I know of, is comprised entirely of adherents from a single ethnicity. If I criticise Christianity, and I never do anything but, I am criticisng the truth claims of the superstition, not the characteristics of its followers. The word you're looking for in relation to religion is not racism, it's sectarianism and of course the people who practice sectarianism are people of faith.

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12 minutes ago, Miguelito said:

Wow....again, none of that makes it okay. It makes it worse. I'm embarrassed for you right now.

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Did I say it was OK ?

So you're in the US, embarrassed for me, about three drunk fans in the Cech Republic singing a song about a multi millionaire, who more than likely will never be aware of it. 

Think I can live with that, thanks.

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1 hour ago, Fernando said:

By many people. In europe, in the middle east, in america. 

One good example of a leader we have in america Rep. Ilhan Omar. 

 

Omar (who was brutally and completely unfairly attacked, slandered, smeared, as always happens when any politician has a go at the RW zionists and your AIPAC) said nothing but the truth

the Israel lobby is the most powerful lobby involved with your government. AIPAC tried the old flim flam and screeched about NO!! we NEVER give money directly to candidates (which is mostly true) BUT they steer billions over the last 68 years indirectly, play BOTH our parties (unlike the NRA which is 95% plus Republican backing) and dog forbid you cross them, they will try and destroy your career and your life.

So yep, if IS all about the benjamins when it comes to RW Israeli policies being pushed in the USA, aint a bloody thing untruthful in what Omar said.

Sheldon Adelson is exhibit number one.

classic academic documentary from 2007 by political scientists (at the highest level) Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer (made by Dutch national television)

 

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52 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

@VesperNothing wrong with the post, good documentary -except it's getting a bit off topic from the diminutive scruffy Egyptian- can you post it in the Politics thread -cheers :)

will do:)

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