Mohamed Salah

[mikeholiday 209]

I have seen a total of zero of his games since he moved. I know that he lit the league up with his scoring. But serious question... Does he TRACK BACK?

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I have seen a total of zero of his games since he moved. I know that he lit the league up with his scoring. But serious question... Does he TRACK BACK?

He does, but not Willian's extent.

[hamad138 190]

Has VW an agreement with us? They are always chasing our players, better lovestory than twillight

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Give him the chance. Juan was a shit show for Fiorentina this season, while Salah was a hit.

Fekir is now WC? [emoji23]

Juan was not shit for fiorentina. If he was shit we wouldnt pay 30m in first place. He wasnt as great as last year, but still if he took his performances from fiorentina to chelsea, he would bench Willian. Salah was hit indeed, but starring in fiorentina doesnt make you chelsea talent either.

What is give him a chance anyway? He will get one game, thats it. He wont play 10 straight games for chelsea to get form, confidence or whatever. If you are good enough you are good enough. Take a look at Sanchez or Costa. Delivered from beggining. Im being harsh on Salah, but he was here, he didnt do much and honestly good season in fiorentina wont make me change mind. I rather see us spend time and potential lack of positive results with giving chance to one of our youth than Salah. Either get some foreign player who will deliver from start, or focus on giving chance to our youth players (Boga for example).

I dont think Salah is not good player, but far from what you want to improve our RW in order to compete with Barca, Real or Bayern.

And about Fekir, yes I think he is better than Salah. Not as good as Reus or Griezmann obviously, but performed brilliantly for Lyon this season.

I prefer players from france than italy. We got Drogba, Hazard, Azpi, Essien to name few who did superb for us. Thats why Fekir would be good option IMO. Never said he is WC so I dunno where you got that from. But if you saw Fekir play sometimes, you would notice he is one of finest talents from france.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

We need a PROVEN RWF. Fekir has been on the scene for less than a season, and is yet to play in Europe. If we're going done that route, go all out to get Traore a WP.

I don't see many names. Fekir is way better fit than Schurrle, Salah, Cuadrado, Mata. He looks very good option, I wouldn't pass on that just because he hasn't played enough European games. I believe that if Chelsea gave chance to poorer fits than Fekir why shouldn't they give that to someone, who on paper looks perfect fit ? He has balance, dribbling, can resist challenge through massive thighs and has elite close control, things that we lacked.

Bertrand Traore is diffrent player to Fekir. But there should be enough room if Cuadrado will leave as there's interest in him.

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Juan was not shit for fiorentina. If he was shit we wouldnt pay 30m in first place. He wasnt as great as last year, but still if he took his performances from fiorentina to chelsea, he would bench Willian. Salah was hit indeed, but starring in fiorentina doesnt make you chelsea talent either.

What is give him a chance anyway? He will get one game, thats it. He wont play 10 straight games for chelsea to get form, confidence or whatever. If you are good enough you are good enough. Take a look at Sanchez or Costa. Delivered from beggining. Im being harsh on Salah, but he was here, he didnt do much and honestly good season in fiorentina wont make me change mind. I rather see us spend time and potential lack of positive results with giving chance to one of our youth than Salah. Either get some foreign player who will deliver from start, or focus on giving chance to our youth players (Boga for example).

I dont think Salah is not good player, but far from what you want to improve our RW in order to compete with Barca, Real or Bayern.

And about Fekir, yes I think he is better than Salah. Not as good as Reus or Griezmann obviously, but performed brilliantly for Lyon this season.

I prefer players from france than italy. We got Drogba, Hazard, Azpi, Essien to name few who did superb for us. Thats why Fekir would be good option IMO. Never said he is WC so I dunno where you got that from. But if you saw Fekir play sometimes, you would notice he is one of finest talents from france.

You put Reus, Griezmann and him in the same discussion. They aren't at the same level. I personally don't think we should be going anywhere near a player who has on performed ok in his first season.

As I said previously, we need players who can fit in straight away and improve the squad. Fekir certainly doesn't fit that criteria.

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I don't see many names. Fekir is way better fit than Schurrle, Salah, Cuadrado, Mata. He looks very good option, I wouldn't pass on that just because he hasn't played enough European games. I believe that if Chelsea gave chance to poorer fits than Fekir why shouldn't they give that to someone, who on paper looks perfect fit ? He has balance, dribbling, can resist challenge through massive thighs and has elite close control, things that we lacked.

Bertrand Traore is diffrent player to Fekir. But there should be enough room if Cuadrado will leave as there's interest in him.

He's a player for the future, but not the present IMO. We could revisit this discussion once he has played in the CL, and come up against much better opposition than Evian, etc.

In addition, he is a AM. We have enough of them already.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

You put Reus, Griezmann and him in the same discussion. They aren't at the same level. I personally don't think we should be going anywhere near a player who has on performed ok in his first season.

As I said previously, we need players who can fit in straight away and improve the squad. Fekir certainly doesn't fit that criteria.

I said Reus, Griezmann, or even Fekir. What I meant, first two are top quality, while Fekir is more long shot, but could still work.

And Fekir is twice the player Salah is. More balance, strength, ball control which is absolutely crucial in PL and Chelsea. Thats why Schurrle, Salah (less ball control - by that I dont mean dribbling, but holding on ball) or Cuadrado (little to no balance) have not worked here, but Willian to some extend did (he actualy has good balance and control). Fekir also adds finishing, passing etc. He is raw, but trust me he is gonna be one of france key players in future if he continues to develop. I watch Lyon since that generation of Essien, Juninho, Cris, Coupet,...and Fekir, Lacazette are at least as promising as Benzema, potential wise.

If you ask me I would say Reus would fit best, Griezmnan or Fekir would be good, Salah would be average. He just doesnt strike me as someone who could hold on the ball in attack. He is more run and shot guy. Good dribbler but so is Cuadrado...

Griezmann is better finisher than Fekir, but Fekir is more physical and has greater balance. Sometimes you need that to start a career in PL in first place. In PL you wont just pass defenders like you do in La liga. Contact is much more common here.

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I said Reus, Griezmann, or even Fekir. What I meant, first two are top quality, while Fekir is more long shot, but could still work.

And Fekir is twice the player Salah is. More balance, strength, ball control which is absolutely crucial in PL and Chelsea. Thats why Schurrle, Salah (less ball control - by that I dont mean dribbling, but holding on ball) or Cuadrado (little to no balance) have not worked here, but Willian to some extend did (he actualy has good balance and control). Fekir also adds finishing, passing etc. He is raw, but trust me he is gonna be one of france key players in future if he continues to develop. I watch Lyon since that generation of Essien, Juninho, Cris, Coupet,...and Fekir, Lacazette are at least as promising as Benzema, potential wise.

If you ask me I would say Reus would fit best, Griezmnan or Fekir would be good, Salah would be average. He just doesnt strike me as someone who could hold on the ball in attack. He is more run and shot guy. Good dribbler but so is Cuadrado...

Griezmann is better finisher than Fekir, but Fekir is more physical and has greater balance. Sometimes you need that to start a career in PL in first place. In PL you wont just pass defenders like you do in La liga. Contact is much more common here.

That's where opinions differ. Fekir is decent, but nothing more. I never cast judgement on a player after one season. I'll judge him once he has the CL and Euros under his belt, instead of Ligue 1 alone.

Salah is much better than you think he is, but isn't at the same level as Reus (my eyes are open). The moment we sign Reus or Bale (highly unlikely), I'll keep making a case. He is the best RWF we have on our books, and nothing will change my view.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

He's a player for the future, but not the present IMO. We could revisit this discussion once he has played in the CL, and come up against much better opposition than Evian, etc.

In addition, he is a AM. We have enough of them already.

So you'd put every young player in the same bracket ? I remember when we were linked with 18 years old Neymar in 2010. We were actually very damn close to sign him, it failed at the last moment. But surely we can regret that now ? Even though he was just one year sensation ...

I think the main problem is that every player is different. You have to distinguish one from another and see real gems. I'm very well aware that Fekir may fail, not fulfil his potential etc. but he is on the high, played very well in recent France friendlies, has good season behind him and with his attributes like strength, left-foot, elite close control, dribbling, he looks good fit, I can't help but feel that.

Chelsea are not even linked with him but I think he is right behind Reus, Griezmann and Di Maria in my wishlist for RW position.

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So you'd put every young player in the same bracket ? I remember when we were linked with 18 years old Neymar in 2010. We were actually very damn close to sign him, it failed at the last moment. But surely we can regret that now ? Even though he was just one year sensation ...

I think the main problem is that every player is different. You have to distinguish one from another and see real gems. I'm very well aware that Fekir may fail, not fulfil his potential etc. but he is on the high, played very well in recent France friendlies, has good season behind him and with his attributes like strength, left-foot, elite close control, dribbling, he looks good fit, I can't help but feel that.

Chelsea are not even linked with him but I think he is right behind Reus, Griezmann and Di Maria in my wishlist for RW position.

Neymar was the best thing in his continent at 18 years old, and was playing for the NT. Both situations are completely different.

I haven't denied the fact that Fekir has the ability to be a star, but I don't think we should be going out for potential. Pogba has proven himself for quite a few seasons now and has earned a probable big money move.

[iseah100 5,612]

And to add more, he plays in same club as Rafael Marquez and Javier Saviola.

Marquez is an ageless wonder.

He does, but not Willian's extent.

To be fair, I don't know of any wingers that track back as much as Willian.

[lito 180]

And to add more, he plays in same club as Rafael Marquez and Javier Saviola.

Rafael Marquez is 36 and Javier Saviola is 33.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

I haven't denied the fact that Fekir has the ability to be a star, but I don't think we should be going out for potential.

Lets say Reus isnt moving anywhere, Di Maria is staying in Man u, and Mourinho doesnt rate Griezmann as a RW (possible imo), what do you do then? whats the next move?

In a year, every top club will be after Fekir and he'd cost twice as much.

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Lets say Reus isnt moving anywhere, Di Maria is staying in Man u, and Mourinho doesnt rate Griezmann as a RW (possible imo), what do you do then? whats the next move?

In a year, every top club will be after Fekir and he'd cost twice as much.

He's a AM. Get rid of Oscar, and I'll say go for it. That ain't gonna happen.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

He's a AM. Get rid of Oscar, and I'll say go for it. That ain't gonna happen.

In Lyon he played as the 10# or the second striker behind Lacazette, that doesn't mean those are the only positions he can play in. Lyon don't play with RW or LW, they play a diamond formation. I can't think of any reason Fekir can't play as the RW in our system with his left foot and fantastic ball control. And it's not like Reus or Griezmann played RW in their careers.

But you didnt answer my question, what would you do?

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In Lyon he played as the 10# or the second striker behind Lacazette, that doesn't mean those are the only positions he can play in. Lyon don't play with RW or LW, they play a diamond formation. I can't think of any reason Fekir can't play as the RW in our system with his left foot and fantastic ball control. And it's not like Reus or Griezmann played RW in their careers.

But you didnt answer my question, what would you do?

I think we should get a natural winger. Not makeshift options.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

I think we should get a natural winger. Not makeshift options.

Ok, who?