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2 minutes ago, Ayioros said:

 

Tbh i think not.

He'll don't have his place in strating XI in the short run, but he can easily progress like a second choice. A season means many games, so many possiblity to play, to prove in training.

And everything happens fast in football, he could benefit from an injury or a bad series from Azpi/Rodriguez (or other).

And in the long run, if he confirms his potential, no doubt he could be a master piece.

now I know you don't really believe that. We've seen it with our own club millions of times. First choice players get the lion share of work and the back up gets maybe 5-10 games, is that enough for a young player to kick on and improve?

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1 hour ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

For everyone screaming "sign him" are you also of the same sort who say "play the youth"?

We sign Rodriguez for 20m, we loaned out Baba who we spent 18m on. What happens to Aina throughout this process?

The youth thing is a problem because we want to play them but we get managers that are not good for that.

If you want youth why go for Mourinho? If you want youth why go for Conte? You need managers like Pochetino or Bielsa that are known to bring youth.

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If Aina is good enough he will eventually start games. 

The problem is not with bringing another fullback here, but rather the trust we have in Aina. If Conte believes in Aina, he will give him chances. If he doesnt believe, it wont matter if we have 1 or 10 fullbacks because in such case even Willian, Zouma etc will play ahead of Ain as auxillary players. but I think Conte will give Aina chance either way. So if RR comes, it wont stall the progress. On other hand, if Aina wont be good enough, he wont be good enough. No point in playing him in first if he wont deliver.

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4 hours ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

now I know you don't really believe that. We've seen it with our own club millions of times. First choice players get the lion share of work and the back up gets maybe 5-10 games, is that enough for a young player to kick on and improve?

If Aina play 10 games in the XI start and has several replacement in the season, i think it's enough to improve. 

Don't forget he will be trained by Conte, and alongside talented players, so he will learn a lot, matchs are not the only way to improve.

And like i said, the kid can play on the both side. So he could easily benefit of an injury/suspension/ form decrease from first choice players.

You really want start season with Aina on the right with no real guaranteed and with just Ivanovic in backup ? For me that's madness. 

Don't forget we absolutely must finish top 4, and can't afford to miss UCL a second time in row. In this case, for me, there is no place for undecided choices.
Rodriguez is top class player on the left, we must do anything to sign him.

If Aina confirms his potential he could be a first choice soon, no doubt.

 

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57 minutes ago, Ayioros said:

If Aina has 10 games in the XI start and several replacement in the season, i think it's enough to improve. 

Don't forget he will be trained by Conte, and alongside talented players, so he will learn a lot, matchs are not the only way to improve.

And like i said, the kid can play on the both side. So he could easily benefit of an injury/suspension/ form decrease from our first choice.

You really want start season with Aina on the right with no real guaranteed and with just Ivanovic in backup ? For me that's madness. 

Don't forget we absolutely must finish top 4, and can't afford to miss UCL a second time in row. In this case, for me, there is no place for undecided choice.
Rodriguez is top class player on the left, we must do anything to sign him.

 

first of all no manager will ever rotate his back 4 as much as you're suggesting here. At most, Aina gets about 5-10 appearances and that's based on who we play in cups and of course injuries. Filipe Luis made 9 appearances for Chelsea, I don't expect Aina to get anywhere near that.

Players don't improve all that much on the training pitch, all young talents need actual minutes in real game situations to improve, that's the whole point of loaning them out to gain experience.

Again I never once said anything about what I want vs. what will likely happen, I simply wanted to know if the same people who are banging on about the youth policy are the same people who want Rodriguez.

 

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2 hours ago, Fernando said:

If he was available for this price all this time the fact that he will be bought at the end does not sounds good.

Like the option that no one wanted. Does not sounds good to me.

Have you ever seen him play?

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By reports his price between € 17-22m ..  Many things doesn't fit right at all in this one. Sources keep saying he's waiting for top 3 clubs. Real Madrid have Marcelo and just brought back Coentrao, Bayern have Alaba and Bernat with Lham, Barselona Alba and Digne... So won't happen. It's strange only unreliable sources from time to time connecting him with Chelsea, Arsenal, United.... If he's that good with price of 17-22m, 10 clubs would go into a public bidding war for him. Plus, his release clause of 20m expired this summer so basically was an easy target for any club.

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Once you get your defenders sorted out that you want the more they play together the more they gel and read each other.

Well thats the normal rule eh! But you look at JT/Cahill/Bane and you would think they had only just met - or hated each other and want to fuck each other up!

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