Korea 734 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 So with Ramires - Matic how would that compare to our rivals in Europe? (Without the hype please )Europe too far.WE should compare EPL.Prior to Matic, I'd say City, Tottenham and than Arsenal were better. Liverpool is eh.United is Carrick and ....Southampton is pretty good.Swansea good offensively. With the addition of Matic, hopefully its just under City-Spurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanishBlue 426 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Alright, those teams do have really strong midfielders so it's not a shame to be behind them It's great with an upgrade though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The centre midfield doesn't have to be our biggest strength, as long as it's not a bottleneck, which this signing definitely helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardosr 38 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Would quite like Kalas to go Benfica on loan, i can't see him getting many games right now, that injury at the start off the season was the worst timing ever.He would not get many games here.Luisao and Garay are our centre defenders, even if Garay leaves to Zenit our coach likes Jardel (our 3rd option to CD).Don't get me wrong, i'm not being arrogant, but none of your young players would play here in Benfica right now, that's why I really don't care if there are 2 chelsea players in this deal or not.Matic in his 1st season here didn't played a lot, he was Javi Garcia substitute. Only when Javi left to City he started to play here and after 2 or 3 months all the fans started to stay that he was really better than Javi Garcia.Probably the deal is not done yet because of those 2 players, we don't need players like Kakuta, for his position we have a lot of players, Markovic, Djuricic, Gaitan, Sulejmani, Ola John, Cavaleiro, and a young kid that you will see a lot in the future called Bernardo Silva (i hope there are not any chelsea scouts here or you will buy this one too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardosr 38 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 So with Ramires - Matic how would that compare to our rivals in Europe? (Without the hype please )2 former benfica players + luiz on the back.I guess only Tiago (speaking about former benfica players) didn't had a lot of success there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Europe too far.WE should compare EPL.Prior to Matic, I'd say City, Tottenham and than Arsenal were better. Liverpool is eh.United is Carrick and ....Southampton is pretty good.Swansea good offensively. With the addition of Matic, hopefully its just under City-Spurs. I think we will be above Spurs, they had awesome midfield with Modric back then, but nowdays they lack creativity. City has better midfield, and sure all major teams like Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Bvb (when fit),...however we have best attacking midfield trio in PL already. And its not always about which midfield is better. That is not what wins you games. I think our team (with proper striker) works much better than most teams and that wins you game. We have been tacticaly awesome this year and Matic will only improve that. He can run all day and cover whole field and wont get tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 :clown: :clown: :clown:Zouma, Matic and Mangala. Luiz and Mata, Kevin out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HD3D 1,038 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 So with Ramires - Matic how would that compare to our rivals in Europe? (Without the hype please )http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1923073-chelsea-transfer-news-nemanja-matic-will-be-a-formidable-force-for-blues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I think we will be above Spurs, they had awesome midfield with Modric back then, but nowdays they lack creativity. City has better midfield, and sure all major teams like Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Bvb (when fit),...however we have best attacking midfield trio in PL already.And its not always about which midfield is better. That is not what wins you games. I think our team (with proper striker) works much better than most teams and that wins you game. We have been tacticaly awesome this year and Matic will only improve that. He can run all day and cover whole field and wont get tired.This is reference to the pivot, not our Ams.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Cant wait to see him in blue shirt This is taking too long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Not again.Please stop...please stop saying Oscar is going to be or play CM. Please god stop. It hasn't happened since I last tried to explain to you months ago that it's never happening, so why now?Why do you even bring 4-3-3 up? Why would we start playing 4-3-3? Why would we sell KDB in that case? He would've been pretty useful in a 4-3-3 don't you think?! He's pretty creative himself!Some people need to stop acting like they can apply their FIFA experience to actual football! Lol, do you know that Oscar oftenly drops very deep in most games, meaning that we change 4:2:3:1 to 4:3:3 on regular basis several times in every game? Maybe you got confused with CM who plays in double pivot and CM/CAM/AM who plays in 4:3:3. Lamps was AM back in the days when we played 4:3:3. Oscar's movement on pitch is very much similar to what AM in 4:3:3 does. He goes nearly to half of pitch to collect the ball and dictate tempo of team, Oscar does that and he also tracks back very often. He aint typical #10 in 4:2:3:1. I didnt say Oscar should be CM in double pivot; he never was and never played there at Chelsea either. But he can be the most offensive AM in 4:3:3. ---------Cech---------Azpi-Terry-Cahill-Cole--------Matic-------------Rambo---Oscar------Hazard-Torres-WillianNow please stop with like you are the only one who knows football BS! Everyone can have opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teignman 441 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 btw Matic is at the Berkeley Hotel in LondonIf he were going to Spurs, Levy & Co. would probably make him pay for his own bed at dodgy hostel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Do you think this could possibly mean that we can finally try oscar in the midfield 3 in a 4-3-3? For Example:---Mikel---Matic-OscarI guess its possible but I've not yet seen Jose use Oscar in 4-3-3. Logic says he can probably play there though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Don't think we will see a 433 without Ramires or Lampard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 We are going to be comfortably ahead of Spurs. Ramires and Matic are two best midfielders from the two clubs. Paulinho hasn't settled in as well as everyone thought he would, Sandro's always injured, and Dembele hasn't been great since Tottenham beat United in 2012 (I think) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 If we'd ever see a 4-3-3 it would prolly be something like:MikelRamires - MaticWillian - Oscar - Hazard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I think we could play 433 in some matches and through some phases during some matches, but I see the midfield triangle being the opposite as you guys posted.I see it being something likeRamires - MaticOscar or LampardWillian or Oscar - Hazardstriker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Its fact, we have always looked for instant succes and its impossible to develop talents with such approach. Just fact that we only had Terry from academy all these years (and maybe we can include Lamps too since he was bought at young age and relatively unexperienced).Im sure our academy is good and so are youth coaches and scouts. We spot and create so many good talents, its quite ridiculous. But the transition from youth team to senior, from making a talent into good player; we are realy bad there. Perhaps the philosophy (buy buy buy), constant change of coaches and desire for instant success (Mr. Abramovich) are problem of that, not academy itself.What you and I are saying is correct, take a look how many players we developed and compare to Barca, United, Arsenal, Bayern, Bvb, even Real. They are miles ahead in developing youth players. No point of criticising such fact, its true no matter how painful it is to hear. However since summer 2012, we are heading into proper way, but it will take time to truly develop youth system.The problem is not the youth coaches or our development, everything stems from not having stability in the management position. We've been chopping and changing way too much to fully utilize the academy. New managers aren't going to give youth a chance to get in when they are under pressure to win right away. Now that we have some stability there I believe we will see more of our academy players start to come through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Any news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 In London, waiting for Spurs to do the medical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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