Steve 10,227 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 We don't have a buy back clause by any chance do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 If we got him wont he also count as home-grown since he was brought up by us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 If we got him wont he also count as home-grown since he was brought up by us?Probably not because he only spent a year and a half at Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 According to some reports, he is the player who covered more ground than any other in CL this season. If that is correct, he has some great engine for PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Maybe one of the portuguese members can say how good he is in passing and playmaking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Maybe one of the portuguese members can say how good he is in passing and playmaking?Hes good going forward and a good long passer, although nowhere near a Gundogan or Modric. Rocket left foot. Very good at winning the ball. He'd fit in nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José Mateus 46 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Maybe one of the portuguese members can say how good he is in passing and playmaking?When he arrived he was seen as an 8-10.As we had Javi, Witsel and Aimar he didn't have many chances and was used mainly as a sub for Javi...When Javi and Witsel left... Matic subbed both and believe me... he did both jobs. He was considered the best player in the league in front of such as Joao Moutinho, Jackson Martinez, James Rodriguez, Gaitan, Cardozo etc.He is definitely a better player when playing as a 6. He combines engine, strength, technique, vision, shooting... This year he has played many games as 8 where he hasn't been near as good. So while he has more than enough passing and playmaking for playing as a 6 or in a double pivot, I don't think he is a world beater playing as a 8 or 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Hes good going forward and a good long passer, although nowhere near a Gundogan or Modric. Rocket left foot. Very good at winning the ball. He'd fit in nicely.Where would you rank his passing then? Pogba level? or less?The thing about the current Matic/Guarin situation is that i think getting Matic would probably mean we got our CM also for the future, and Guarin is more of a short term solution that could keep the option to buy another CM in the summer. The question is if Matic-Ramires is a good enough double pivot in a long term view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 When he arrived he was seen as an 8-10.As we had Javi, Witsel and Aimar he didn't have many chances and was used mainly as a sub for Javi...When Javi and Witsel left... Matic subbed both and believe me... he did both jobs. He was considered the best player in the league in front of such as Joao Moutinho, Jackson Martinez, James Rodriguez, Gaitan, Cardozo etc.He is definitely a better player when playing as a 6. He combines engine, strength, technique, vision, shooting... This year he has played many games as 8 where he hasn't been near as good. So while he has more than enough passing and playmaking for playing as a 6 or in a double pivot, I don't think he is a world beater playing as a 8 or 10.According to this words on Matic I could actualy see Jose going for this kind of midfield with Matic-Ramires, very balanced and powerfull, and if Matic could get the game going from the back like you say he could it will be a good option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Where would you rank his passing then? Pogba level? or less?The thing about the current Matic/Guarin situation is that i think getting Matic would probably mean we got our CM also for the future, and Guarin is more of a short term solution that could keep the option the buy another CM in the summer. The question is if Matic-Ramires is a good enough double pivot in a long term view.His passing is very good, I meant that he's not close to Gundoganor Modric going forward, wich is normal. Like the other poster said, he's better as a 6.My question with Matic is not whether he's good enough, but his price tag. 40m is steep. But looking at the market and how inflated it is, it's not as bad as it sounds.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Matic and Gundogan in the summer and we'll have the best midfield in the BPL MaticRambo Gundogan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 His passing is very good, I meant that he's not close to Gundoganor Modric going forward, wich is normal. Like the other poster said, he's better as a 6.My question with Matic is not whether he's good enough, but his price tag. 40m is steep. But looking at the market and how inflated it is, it's not as bad as it sounds..Isn't he available for 20-25m due to their financial problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Isn't he available for 20-25m due to their financial problems?You'd have to ask a Benfica fan about that, but I highly doubt they'd let the best player in the league leave for that little amount. They'd rather sell someone like Gaitán IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 You can compare him a bit like De Rossi but not as stronger as the italian one.A great DLP next to him and we could have a great great central midfield. Why not Josh ? Okay he is a poor tackler but he has some passing tools no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Warrior 109 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I want the fairly priced one, who can become as good as De Rossi overtime. Striker still comes first to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilander 35 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Hes good going forward and a good long passer, although nowhere near a Gundogan or Modric. Rocket left foot. Very good at winning the ball. He'd fit in nicely.I think Mourinho prefers Gundogan or Modric to Matic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,046 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I think Mourinho prefers Gundogan or Modric to Matic.Did Jose tell you that himself??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 A Modric-Matic pivot would be quite amazing hah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 The best part of getting a solid creative dm like Matic would be that we won't have to invest in a centre back as the root cause of our defensive problems is the lack of a reliable defensive midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 The best part of getting a solid creative dm like Matic would be that we won't have to invest in a centre back as the root cause of our defensive problems is the lack of a reliable defensive midfielder.That is very far from reality, though, lately. Most if not all of the goals that we have conceded in the past month have come from individual mistakes from the back four.We do need a CB. Maybe not in Jan, but certainly in the summer. And we definitely need a new LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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